Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:02 am
Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:45 am
riley1951 wrote:A MAN who doesn't understand football collects football clubs, like I collect bruises, has absolutely no interest in the great game, and if this is his best effort, then God forgive him, HE IS A FAILURE![]()
Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:19 am
ThomasC wrote:riley1951 wrote:A MAN who doesn't understand football collects football clubs, like I collect bruises, has absolutely no interest in the great game, and if this is his best effort, then God forgive him, HE IS A FAILURE![]()
Correct, extended a stadium to 35k without ensuring PL stability. Now wants the club to be self-sufficient without employing anyone capable of achieving this objective and keep the club competitive.
Summary: A disastrous first attempt to own a football club.
Abramovich: The ultimate organiser. First signing was a CEO (Peter Kenyon) who used to oversee the biggest and most successful football teams Man Utd.
Abramovich & Tan. Both Billionaires, one a failure, the other not. One employs the best, the other thinks he knows best
Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:32 am
wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:riley1951 wrote:A MAN who doesn't understand football collects football clubs, like I collect bruises, has absolutely no interest in the great game, and if this is his best effort, then God forgive him, HE IS A FAILURE![]()
Correct, extended a stadium to 35k without ensuring PL stability. Now wants the club to be self-sufficient without employing anyone capable of achieving this objective and keep the club competitive.
Summary: A disastrous first attempt to own a football club.
Abramovich: The ultimate organiser. First signing was a CEO (Peter Kenyon) who used to oversee the biggest and most successful football teams Man Utd.
Abramovich & Tan. Both Billionaires, one a failure, the other not. One employs the best, the other thinks he knows best
is that the same Chelsea who spent 100s of millions and aren't even in the champions league ?
Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:38 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:riley1951 wrote:A MAN who doesn't understand football collects football clubs, like I collect bruises, has absolutely no interest in the great game, and if this is his best effort, then God forgive him, HE IS A FAILURE![]()
Correct, extended a stadium to 35k without ensuring PL stability. Now wants the club to be self-sufficient without employing anyone capable of achieving this objective and keep the club competitive.
Summary: A disastrous first attempt to own a football club.
Abramovich: The ultimate organiser. First signing was a CEO (Peter Kenyon) who used to oversee the biggest and most successful football teams Man Utd.
Abramovich & Tan. Both Billionaires, one a failure, the other not. One employs the best, the other thinks he knows best
is that the same Chelsea who spent 100s of millions and aren't even in the champions league ?
In fairness Wez Abramovich put in a back room staff to oversee everything at Chelsea and yes he has spent Millions and Millions but he's also got a trophy cabinet bulging with silverware.
Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:41 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:riley1951 wrote:A MAN who doesn't understand football collects football clubs, like I collect bruises, has absolutely no interest in the great game, and if this is his best effort, then God forgive him, HE IS A FAILURE![]()
Correct, extended a stadium to 35k without ensuring PL stability. Now wants the club to be self-sufficient without employing anyone capable of achieving this objective and keep the club competitive.
Summary: A disastrous first attempt to own a football club.
Abramovich: The ultimate organiser. First signing was a CEO (Peter Kenyon) who used to oversee the biggest and most successful football teams Man Utd.
Abramovich & Tan. Both Billionaires, one a failure, the other not. One employs the best, the other thinks he knows best
is that the same Chelsea who spent 100s of millions and aren't even in the champions league ?
In fairness Wez Abramovich put in a back room staff to oversee everything at Chelsea and yes he has spent Millions and Millions but he's also got a trophy cabinet bulging with silverware.
Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:42 am
riley1951 wrote:A MAN who doesn't understand football collects football clubs, like I collect bruises, has absolutely no interest in the great game, and if this is his best effort, then God forgive him, HE IS A FAILURE![]()
Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:44 am
wez1927 wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:riley1951 wrote:A MAN who doesn't understand football collects football clubs, like I collect bruises, has absolutely no interest in the great game, and if this is his best effort, then God forgive him, HE IS A FAILURE![]()
Correct, extended a stadium to 35k without ensuring PL stability. Now wants the club to be self-sufficient without employing anyone capable of achieving this objective and keep the club competitive.
Summary: A disastrous first attempt to own a football club.
Abramovich: The ultimate organiser. First signing was a CEO (Peter Kenyon) who used to oversee the biggest and most successful football teams Man Utd.
Abramovich & Tan. Both Billionaires, one a failure, the other not. One employs the best, the other thinks he knows best
is that the same Chelsea who spent 100s of millions and aren't even in the champions league ?
In fairness Wez Abramovich put in a back room staff to oversee everything at Chelsea and yes he has spent Millions and Millions but he's also got a trophy cabinet bulging with silverware.
if we spent 800 million we would have too thomoney talks but even Chelsea have got it wrong especially last season
Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:23 am
Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:54 am
ThomasC wrote:wez1927 wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:riley1951 wrote:A MAN who doesn't understand football collects football clubs, like I collect bruises, has absolutely no interest in the great game, and if this is his best effort, then God forgive him, HE IS A FAILURE![]()
Correct, extended a stadium to 35k without ensuring PL stability. Now wants the club to be self-sufficient without employing anyone capable of achieving this objective and keep the club competitive.
Summary: A disastrous first attempt to own a football club.
Abramovich: The ultimate organiser. First signing was a CEO (Peter Kenyon) who used to oversee the biggest and most successful football teams Man Utd.
Abramovich & Tan. Both Billionaires, one a failure, the other not. One employs the best, the other thinks he knows best
is that the same Chelsea who spent 100s of millions and aren't even in the champions league ?
In fairness Wez Abramovich put in a back room staff to oversee everything at Chelsea and yes he has spent Millions and Millions but he's also got a trophy cabinet bulging with silverware.
if we spent 800 million we would have too thomoney talks but even Chelsea have got it wrong especially last season
Not without the right set-up. Don't you remember when Cardiff broke the record for spending as a promoted club or is this going to be forgotten about![]()
Mon Aug 15, 2016 12:32 pm
Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:19 pm
wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:wez1927 wrote:oohahhPaulMillar wrote:wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:riley1951 wrote:A MAN who doesn't understand football collects football clubs, like I collect bruises, has absolutely no interest in the great game, and if this is his best effort, then God forgive him, HE IS A FAILURE![]()
Correct, extended a stadium to 35k without ensuring PL stability. Now wants the club to be self-sufficient without employing anyone capable of achieving this objective and keep the club competitive.
Summary: A disastrous first attempt to own a football club.
Abramovich: The ultimate organiser. First signing was a CEO (Peter Kenyon) who used to oversee the biggest and most successful football teams Man Utd.
Abramovich & Tan. Both Billionaires, one a failure, the other not. One employs the best, the other thinks he knows best
is that the same Chelsea who spent 100s of millions and aren't even in the champions league ?
In fairness Wez Abramovich put in a back room staff to oversee everything at Chelsea and yes he has spent Millions and Millions but he's also got a trophy cabinet bulging with silverware.
if we spent 800 million we would have too thomoney talks but even Chelsea have got it wrong especially last season
Not without the right set-up. Don't you remember when Cardiff broke the record for spending as a promoted club or is this going to be forgotten about![]()
50 million not 800 million Chelsea buy one player for the whole amount of our budget
Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:51 am
Jasonccfc wrote:riley1951 wrote:A MAN who doesn't understand football collects football clubs, like I collect bruises, has absolutely no interest in the great game, and if this is his best effort, then God forgive him, HE IS A FAILURE![]()
I think he can only be judged a success or failure when he leaves.
Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:05 am
Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:01 pm
blueb1rd97 wrote:Biggest tw*t of a man that's ever existed.
Call himself a businessman, absolute joke the way he runs our club
Tue Aug 16, 2016 12:07 pm
Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:09 pm
Blueboys1927 wrote:Vincent Tan has been a unmitigated FAILURE as owner of Cardiff City Football Club. Anyone who disagrees with this should just take a good hard look at the mess we are in. Newport County are in a far healthier financial state than we are. And our other Welsh rival, Swansea City go from financial strength to strength and grow bigger and bigger. We are literally not even in the same league and I doubt we ever will be. We have been well blown away by them. That's why you see all the young kids walking all around South Wales wearing either Swansea, Liverpool or Man Utd shirts. A great shame, as he could have been a massive hero at CCFC, instead of a hated villan
Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:10 pm
Blueboys1927 wrote:In football terms the man has been a massive FAILURE!!!
And the but of all football Jokes
Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:33 pm
Tony Blue Williams wrote:Blueboys1927 wrote:In football terms the man has been a massive FAILURE!!!
And the but of all football Jokes
Great statement where is the explanation?
Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:07 pm
Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:31 pm
riley1951 wrote:A MAN who doesn't understand football collects football clubs, like I collect bruises, has absolutely no interest in the great game, and if this is his best effort, then God forgive him, HE IS A FAILURE![]()
Tue Aug 16, 2016 3:20 pm
ThomasC wrote:riley1951 wrote:A MAN who doesn't understand football collects football clubs, like I collect bruises, has absolutely no interest in the great game, and if this is his best effort, then God forgive him, HE IS A FAILURE![]()
Correct, extended a stadium to 35k without ensuring PL stability. Now wants the club to be self-sufficient without employing anyone capable of achieving this objective and keep the club competitive.
Summary: A disastrous first attempt to own a football club.
Abramovich: The ultimate organiser. First signing was a CEO (Peter Kenyon) who used to oversee the biggest and most successful football teams Man Utd.
Abramovich & Tan. Both Billionaires, one a failure, the other not. One employs the best, the other thinks he knows best
Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:35 pm
Tue Aug 16, 2016 4:47 pm
SwampCCFC wrote:ThomasC wrote:riley1951 wrote:A MAN who doesn't understand football collects football clubs, like I collect bruises, has absolutely no interest in the great game, and if this is his best effort, then God forgive him, HE IS A FAILURE![]()
Correct, extended a stadium to 35k without ensuring PL stability. Now wants the club to be self-sufficient without employing anyone capable of achieving this objective and keep the club competitive.
Summary: A disastrous first attempt to own a football club.
Abramovich: The ultimate organiser. First signing was a CEO (Peter Kenyon) who used to oversee the biggest and most successful football teams Man Utd.
Abramovich & Tan. Both Billionaires, one a failure, the other not. One employs the best, the other thinks he knows best
abramovic has made millions of mistakes. however, he kept funding £100m losses for years on end, and because of the construction of the premier league at the time, and lack of money in the game at the time he purchased the club, he was able to win multiple trophies. for a much better example of business sense and 'ultimate organisation', look no further than the glazers at manchester united. yes they have sucked the life and soul out of the club, but they have turned it into a commercial behemoth, and made billions in the process.
tan lacks any football business sense. football is a business of its own, which he fails to understand. however, to compare abramovic as a model owner? cronyism is rife at chelsea. look at michael emenalo, avram grant and a multitude of people behind the scenes who get jobs at the club through cronyism and not merit.
Tue Aug 16, 2016 5:50 pm
Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:37 pm
ThomasC wrote:
Very good points, Glazers and Tan are football 'investors' where as Abramovich has so much money, the purchase was success orientated without worry of losses. I do believe Chelsea is now profitable. As for cronyism at Chelsea, I would say the most important positions are almost always filled correctly. Avram was defo stop-gap.