5-3-2

I have watch all 3 games now and we have had about 3 good chances in all 3 games. No goals, players don't look comfortable, no cutting edge. To be honest, it's absolute shambles. Club's got to bite the bullet and admit they have made a mistake appointing Trollope. The man looks out of his depth. We could have played for another 90mins and not have scored and that was against an average QPR side. Trollope has to realise we have no Bale, Ramsey, Allen or Davies and our players are not up to this system

Totally agree. Let's play 4-2--3-1. But we need a couple of players to make even this work.

Totally agree. Let's play 4-2--3-1. But we need a couple of players to make even this work.

And if that doesn't work 424 or 415 433 even?

What we need to do is stop p'ssing about with this diamond passing... Players need to go forward and have confidence to try to take people on!

People have open space, run 2 yards, turn round and start the diamond passing again to let the defence re-group. Back to Whitts, then back to Connolly, back to Declan - oh wait defence has reorganized now!!!!!!!

I should of stuck to my guns on this. I said before the season started this was a defensive formation, I also said I doubted this formation is what is needed for a 46 game campaign when Wales used it effectively in a tournament format.

It does not test the opposition enough, it's too safe. We haven't got the creative forces for this to work. I have said this already, it's not a reactionary observation. I may be wrong and proved to be wrong, as it stands i'm not!

What we need to do is stop p'ssing about with this diamond passing... Players need to go forward and have confidence to try to take people on!

People have open space, run 2 yards, turn round and start the diamond passing again to let the defence re-group. Back to Whitts, then back to Connolly, back to Declan - oh wait defence has reorganized now!!!!!!!

City are following majority of clubs worrying about possession stats! so pass the ball to death going nowhere fast lost count times we went sideways back then forward 20yds then sideways again!!!!

What we need to do is stop p'ssing about with this diamond passing... Players need to go forward and have confidence to try to take people on!

People have open space, run 2 yards, turn round and start the diamond passing again to let the defence re-group. Back to Whitts, then back to Connolly, back to Declan - oh wait defence has reorganized now!!!!!!!

City are following majority of clubs worrying about possession stats! so pass the ball to death going nowhere fast lost count times we went sideways back then forward 20yds then sideways again!!!!

Wales used the long diagonal ball from CB out to the wing backs. The Welsh team done well with the tactics, I'm not sure if the Cardiff players can do it

What we need to do is stop p'ssing about with this diamond passing... Players need to go forward and have confidence to try to take people on!

People have open space, run 2 yards, turn round and start the diamond passing again to let the defence re-group. Back to Whitts, then back to Connolly, back to Declan - oh wait defence has reorganized now!!!!!!!

City are following majority of clubs worrying about possession stats! so pass the ball to death going nowhere fast lost count times we went sideways back then forward 20yds then sideways again!!!!

Wales used the long diagonal ball from CB out to the wing backs. The Welsh team done well with the tactics, I'm not sure if the Cardiff players can do it

Don't think they can as far to pedestrian going forward, also midfield to far away from Freddie / pilks so no link up play.