' STRIKER or DEBT? - POLL '

It is quite clear to see that the club desperately needs at least one proven goal scorer. There has been very little investment in the squad for the past 2 seasons even though we have had parachute payments.

Would you like to see the club spend up to 3 million on a quality striker or use money to reduce the clubs debt?

If the club can afford it then yes if they can't then no.

People can keep having a go at Tan then expect him to keep giving the club more money.

You have to spend to accumulate

Decent striker scores goal= chance of promotion, or should I say saying up

You have to spend to accumulate

Decent striker scores goal= chance of promotion, or should I say saying up

Didn't we do that before and now we are sorting the mess out.

We have to live within our means. Look at the mess we have been in before due to debts that the club could not cope with. We can hardly expect Tan to throw more money at the club, particularly after the abuse he has taken (rightly or wrongly) from a large section of us. As long as we can remain in the Championship, Tan will be satisfied and hopefully we can end up debt free and being run in a sensible way, unlike many times in our past recent history.

Don't matter what you vote Tan decides on matters financial.

can't we do both ? have a smaller squad and use the money saved to do both

You have to spend to accumulate

Decent striker scores goal= chance of promotion, or should I say saying up

Didn't we do that before and now we are sorting the mess out.

We've not sorted our strike department since Dave Jones

You have to spend to accumulate

Decent striker scores goal= chance of promotion, or should I say saying up

Didn't we do that before and now we are sorting the mess out.

We've not sorted our strike department since Dave Jones

If they don't get a striker in, then the debt will get worse any way, due to lower crowds, low merchandise sales,sponsorships, less Sky tv etc etc

If they don't get a striker in, then the debt will get worse any way, due to lower crowds, low merchandise sales,sponsorships, less Sky tv etc etc

Agree with you Annis, I was about to make that point but you've made it already.

You can still cost cut and remain competitive if they do it right. Make net profits each season nobody is complaining. BUT, as you say, if nothing gets invested, they will lose out on other revenue streams + relegation is not out of the question if no investment

If they don't get a striker in, then the debt will get worse any way, due to lower crowds, low merchandise sales,sponsorships, less Sky tv etc etc

Agree with you Annis, I was about to make that point but you've made it already.

You can still cost cut and remain competitive if they do it right. Make net profits each season nobody is complaining. BUT, as you say, if nothing gets invested, they will lose out on other revenue streams + relegation is not out of the question if no investment

Correct Thomas and as City are run as a business, if you put nothing in,don't expect anything back but failure.

Im worried that we are cutting too much to remain competetive in this league. Im guessing our parachute payments were absorbed by the debts?

I agree we have been too liberal with the cash over the years but we do need some investment as relegation would hurt us even more financially.

Im worried that we are cutting too much to remain competetive in this league. Im guessing our parachute payments were absorbed by the debts?

I agree we have been too liberal with the cash over the years but we do need some investment as relegation would hurt us even more financially.

And lets remember 90% of our debt that reached as much as £150mill plus was created by Vincent Tan himself.

Im worried that we are cutting too much to remain competetive in this league. Im guessing our parachute payments were absorbed by the debts?

I agree we have been too liberal with the cash over the years but we do need some investment as relegation would hurt us even more financially.

And lets remember 90% of our debt that reached as much as £150mill plus was created by Vincent Tan himself.

bullshit annis we were 69 million in debt before he came, your not very good at figures are you so it can't be 90%

Im worried that we are cutting too much to remain competetive in this league. Im guessing our parachute payments were absorbed by the debts?

I agree we have been too liberal with the cash over the years but we do need some investment as relegation would hurt us even more financially.

And lets remember 90% of our debt that reached as much as £150mill plus was created by Vincent Tan himself.

bullshit annis we were 69 million in debt before he came, your not very good at figures are you so it can't be 90%

Bullshit Wez,We were not that high and I believe it reached £170mill under Tan

I can tell you this,Im very good at keeping my own accounts in order and in credit

I am surprised that so many fans are happy for the club to put every penny in reducing the debt.

I think that you need a fine balancing act of reducing the debt alongside investing in certain players when it has been clear for years where we have been lacking. No good saying that fans are 'plastics' if they don't stick with the club when every week they are being served up sub standard boring football every week. Fans do not want to waste their hard earned money when they are not being entertained.

Would be interesting to know what percentage of the parachute payments has been re invested since we were relegated from the Premiership. Probably very little. The way the crowds are dwindling will only continue so the club will struggle more financially. Needs 1/2 quality signings to re ignite the interest of those Cardiff fans on the database.

I think Annis is spot on unless we spend money and improve the way we play and get some results then supporters will stop coming to the games the proof is there.

If we were in the prem the stadium would be full near enough every game more merchandise will be sold, run a club like a league 1 team you get league 1 support you cannot expect people to pay good money these days and serve up the crap
that City has provided for a while now.

So sad to see I was angry I am just sad now as no one is listening anyway.

Im worried that we are cutting too much to remain competetive in this league. Im guessing our parachute payments were absorbed by the debts?

I agree we have been too liberal with the cash over the years but we do need some investment as relegation would hurt us even more financially.

And lets remember 90% of our debt that reached as much as £150mill plus was created by Vincent Tan himself.

bullshit annis we were 69 million in debt before he came, your not very good at figures are you so it can't be 90%

Bullshit Wez,We were not that high and I believe it reached £170mill under Tan

I can tell you this,Im very good at keeping my own accounts in order and in credit

we've had this conversation loads of times and I prove you wrong everytime we were 69 m8llion in debt when tan took us over so it can't be 90% can it it,good job you've got a good account

Im in the patient for a season or to catagory but we really need to buy a striker and maybe get one in on loan from the premier..

I think from the moment we won the battle to return to blue, and gave tan a huge amount of criticism at the same time, we kissed goodbye to any further investment in the club. Can't see much money being thrown around while Tan is here, and I still believe his number one priority is to get back as much of his investment as possible, before trying to find a new owner.

I think from the moment we won the battle to return to blue, and gave tan a huge amount of criticism at the same time, we kissed goodbye to any further investment in the club. Can't see much money being thrown around while Tan is here, and I still believe his number one priority is to get back as much of his investment as possible, before trying to find a new owner.

He's writing off 150 million isn't that investment?

I think from the moment we won the battle to return to blue, and gave tan a huge amount of criticism at the same time, we kissed goodbye to any further investment in the club. Can't see much money being thrown around while Tan is here, and I still believe his number one priority is to get back as much of his investment as possible, before trying to find a new owner.

He's writing off 150 million isn't that investment?

You have no idea about his personal final deficit until he leaves the club. We don't know how much additional revenue will come in from the sale of players, TV rights, season tickets etc. over the next couple of years, and what percentage of that will be repaid against the present amount written off. We only know the financial position up to the last published set of accounts. There is no doubt he will lose money with this venture, as do the majority of football club owners. I think you are in for a disapointment if you really think Tan has any particular love for a football team based half way around the world from his home, in a country that means nothing to him. This is purely business, and I can't see him risking any more vast sums of money on something that has already cost him a fortune.

New owner

THIS IS A SIMPLE ONE REALLY, BACK US OR SELL US, WE HAVE BEEN STANDING STILL FOR 2 YRS AND U CAN SEE IT TOO, ITS ALL WELL AND GOOD SAYING TAN IS REDUCING THE DEBT BUT AT WHAT COST

I think from the moment we won the battle to return to blue, and gave tan a huge amount of criticism at the same time, we kissed goodbye to any further investment in the club. Can't see much money being thrown around while Tan is here, and I still believe his number one priority is to get back as much of his investment as possible, before trying to find a new owner.

He's writing off 150 million isn't that investment?

You have no idea about his personal final deficit until he leaves the club. We don't know how much additional revenue will come in from the sale of players, TV rights, season tickets etc. over the next couple of years, and what percentage of that will be repaid against the present amount written off. We only know the financial position up to the last published set of accounts. There is no doubt he will lose money with this venture, as do the majority of football club owners. I think you are in for a disapointment if you really think Tan has any particular love for a football team based half way around the world from his home, in a country that means nothing to him. This is purely business, and I can't see him risking any more vast sums of money on something that has already cost him a fortune.

unfortunately i agree with you on this, he said recently that we was down to40m debt did he not? if thats the case after he pockets the parachute payments AGAIN then surely he can write off the rest and just go, in footballing terms we are further from the premier league than we have ever been

I think from the moment we won the battle to return to blue, and gave tan a huge amount of criticism at the same time, we kissed goodbye to any further investment in the club. Can't see much money being thrown around while Tan is here, and I still believe his number one priority is to get back as much of his investment as possible, before trying to find a new owner.

He's writing off 150 million isn't that investment?

You have no idea about his personal final deficit until he leaves the club. We don't know how much additional revenue will come in from the sale of players, TV rights, season tickets etc. over the next couple of years, and what percentage of that will be repaid against the present amount written off. We only know the financial position up to the last published set of accounts. There is no doubt he will lose money with this venture, as do the majority of football club owners. I think you are in for a disapointment if you really think Tan has any particular love for a football team based half way around the world from his home, in a country that means nothing to him. This is purely business, and I can't see him risking any more vast sums of money on something that has already cost him a fortune.

unfortunately i agree with you on this, he said recently that we was down to40m debt did he not? if thats the case after he pockets the parachute payments AGAIN then surely he can write off the rest and just go, in footballing terms we are further from the premier league than we have ever been

pocketed the money he's writing off 170 million 60 odd of it isn't his doing and your still moaning:lol:

Did I watch a different game to everyone else yesterday?

If we had Vardy and Kaene playing up front for us it would have made no difference as the ball wouldn't have come them to have a chance of scoring.

We need to give the new formation time, however the difference between Wales playing this way is that they have Bale, we do not!

I think from the moment we won the battle to return to blue, and gave tan a huge amount of criticism at the same time, we kissed goodbye to any further investment in the club. Can't see much money being thrown around while Tan is here, and I still believe his number one priority is to get back as much of his investment as possible, before trying to find a new owner.

He's writing off 150 million isn't that investment?

You have no idea about his personal final deficit until he leaves the club. We don't know how much additional revenue will come in from the sale of players, TV rights, season tickets etc. over the next couple of years, and what percentage of that will be repaid against the present amount written off. We only know the financial position up to the last published set of accounts. There is no doubt he will lose money with this venture, as do the majority of football club owners. I think you are in for a disapointment if you really think Tan has any particular love for a football team based half way around the world from his home, in a country that means nothing to him. This is purely business, and I can't see him risking any more vast sums of money on something that has already cost him a fortune.

unfortunately i agree with you on this, he said recently that we was down to40m debt did he not? if thats the case after he pockets the parachute payments AGAIN then surely he can write off the rest and just go, in footballing terms we are further from the premier league than we have ever been

pocketed the money he's writing off 170 million 60 odd of it isn't his doing and your still moaning:lol:

And you don't think he's going to get back any of that?

I think from the moment we won the battle to return to blue, and gave tan a huge amount of criticism at the same time, we kissed goodbye to any further investment in the club. Can't see much money being thrown around while Tan is here, and I still believe his number one priority is to get back as much of his investment as possible, before trying to find a new owner.

He's writing off 150 million isn't that investment?

You have no idea about his personal final deficit until he leaves the club. We don't know how much additional revenue will come in from the sale of players, TV rights, season tickets etc. over the next couple of years, and what percentage of that will be repaid against the present amount written off. We only know the financial position up to the last published set of accounts. There is no doubt he will lose money with this venture, as do the majority of football club owners. I think you are in for a disapointment if you really think Tan has any particular love for a football team based half way around the world from his home, in a country that means nothing to him. This is purely business, and I can't see him risking any more vast sums of money on something that has already cost him a fortune.

unfortunately i agree with you on this, he said recently that we was down to40m debt did he not? if thats the case after he pockets the parachute payments AGAIN then surely he can write off the rest and just go, in footballing terms we are further from the premier league than we have ever been

pocketed the money he's writing off 170 million 60 odd of it isn't his doing and your still moaning:lol:

And you don't think he's going to get back any of that?

no not unless we get promoted and he sells to some other idiot ,football clubs are money pits