Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:12 pm
Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:16 pm
wez1927 wrote:seen on facebook that one of our academy players Rabbii Matondo is leaving Cardiff and signed for man city ,why the f**k ain't we keeping them and blooding them through to the first team?
Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:17 pm
pembroke allan wrote:wez1927 wrote:seen on facebook that one of our academy players Rabbii Matondo is leaving Cardiff and signed for man city ,why the f**k ain't we keeping them and blooding them through to the first team?
Wez is there a any chance of keeping someone when club like man c come calling , suspect there is more to it than simply leaving us for them .
Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:34 pm
wez1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:wez1927 wrote:seen on facebook that one of our academy players Rabbii Matondo is leaving Cardiff and signed for man city ,why the f**k ain't we keeping them and blooding them through to the first team?
Wez is there a any chance of keeping someone when club like man c come calling , suspect there is more to it than simply leaving us for them .
we need to keep hold of our talent we need strikers coming through
Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:37 pm
pembroke allan wrote:wez1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:wez1927 wrote:seen on facebook that one of our academy players Rabbii Matondo is leaving Cardiff and signed for man city ,why the f**k ain't we keeping them and blooding them through to the first team?
Wez is there a any chance of keeping someone when club like man c come calling , suspect there is more to it than simply leaving us for them .
we need to keep hold of our talent we need strikers coming through
Probably nothing in it as there are protocols to be adheared to related to taking youngsters from other teams academies!
Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:56 pm
Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:58 pm
YM Bluebird wrote:Didn't we turn down a bid from man city for him last season?
Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:08 pm
Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:16 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I know this is from the other forum, but from what I've read here, he seems a massive loss with unlimited potential. A striker with frightening speed and brilliant ball control who effortlessly stepped into our under 18's recently as a 15 year old!
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-412184.html
Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:23 pm
wez1927 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I know this is from the other forum, but from what I've read here, he seems a massive loss with unlimited potential. A striker with frightening speed and brilliant ball control who effortlessly stepped into our under 18's recently as a 15 year old!
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-412184.html
exactly the type of player we needed to keep
Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:30 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I know this is from the other forum, but from what I've read here, he seems a massive loss with unlimited potential. A striker with frightening speed and brilliant ball control who effortlessly stepped into our under 18's recently as a 15 year old!
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-412184.html
exactly the type of player we needed to keep
Unfortunately, clubs like us remain powerless to keep our best youngsters from the big clubs like Man City. Money talks and no doubt his parents have been buttered up with promises of a new house, new car etc.
Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:38 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I know this is from the other forum, but from what I've read here, he seems a massive loss with unlimited potential. A striker with frightening speed and brilliant ball control who effortlessly stepped into our under 18's recently as a 15 year old!
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-412184.html
exactly the type of player we needed to keep
Unfortunately, clubs like us remain powerless to keep our best youngsters from the big clubs like Man City. Money talks and no doubt his parents have been buttered up with promises of a new house, new car etc.
Need to put youself in his position as well. You can hardly compare a club like Man C to our club. Every youngster dreams of playing for one of the big clubs. We will always find it difficult to keep our most talented players, Ramsey being a perfect example.
Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:43 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I know this is from the other forum, but from what I've read here, he seems a massive loss with unlimited potential. A striker with frightening speed and brilliant ball control who effortlessly stepped into our under 18's recently as a 15 year old!
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-412184.html
exactly the type of player we needed to keep
Unfortunately, clubs like us remain powerless to keep our best youngsters from the big clubs like Man City. Money talks and no doubt his parents have been buttered up with promises of a new house, new car etc.
Need to put youself in his position as well. You can hardly compare a club like Man C to our club. Every youngster dreams of playing for one of the big clubs. We will always find it difficult to keep our most talented players, Ramsey being a perfect example.
Ramsey only left us because we needed the money to stop us going under, that's why we only sold him for 4.2 million with no sell on clause, Arsenal offered all the money up front and that 4.2 million saved our club.
It seemed the boy was developing nicely for us, making great progress. He is now in massive danger of going from a stand out youngster with us to just another youngster at Man City. There's obviously more competition in Man City's youth team for regular games, causing an increased risk of his potential stagnating through lack of game time and experience. The move is a huge gamble at his age.
Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:46 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I know this is from the other forum, but from what I've read here, he seems a massive loss with unlimited potential. A striker with frightening speed and brilliant ball control who effortlessly stepped into our under 18's recently as a 15 year old!
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-412184.html
exactly the type of player we needed to keep
Unfortunately, clubs like us remain powerless to keep our best youngsters from the big clubs like Man City. Money talks and no doubt his parents have been buttered up with promises of a new house, new car etc.
Need to put youself in his position as well. You can hardly compare a club like Man C to our club. Every youngster dreams of playing for one of the big clubs. We will always find it difficult to keep our most talented players, Ramsey being a perfect example.
Ramsey only left us because we needed the money to stop us going under, that's why we only sold him for 4.2 million with no sell on clause, Arsenal offered all the money up front and that 4.2 million saved our club.
It seemed the boy was developing nicely for us, making great progress. He is now in massive danger of going from a stand out youngster with us to just another youngster at Man City. There's obviously more competition in Man City's youth team for regular games, causing an increased risk of his potential stagnating through lack of game time and experience. The move is a huge gamble at his age.
We always need the money for something, and nearly every quality young player I have seen here starting with Toshack has been sold as soon as one of the bigger clubs come in with a decent offer. I can assure you Ramsey would'nt have been here long irrespective of our financial situation at the time.
Fri Aug 12, 2016 7:53 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I know this is from the other forum, but from what I've read here, he seems a massive loss with unlimited potential. A striker with frightening speed and brilliant ball control who effortlessly stepped into our under 18's recently as a 15 year old!
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-412184.html
exactly the type of player we needed to keep
Unfortunately, clubs like us remain powerless to keep our best youngsters from the big clubs like Man City. Money talks and no doubt his parents have been buttered up with promises of a new house, new car etc.
Need to put youself in his position as well. You can hardly compare a club like Man C to our club. Every youngster dreams of playing for one of the big clubs. We will always find it difficult to keep our most talented players, Ramsey being a perfect example.
Ramsey only left us because we needed the money to stop us going under, that's why we only sold him for 4.2 million with no sell on clause, Arsenal offered all the money up front and that 4.2 million saved our club.
It seemed the boy was developing nicely for us, making great progress. He is now in massive danger of going from a stand out youngster with us to just another youngster at Man City. There's obviously more competition in Man City's youth team for regular games, causing an increased risk of his potential stagnating through lack of game time and experience. The move is a huge gamble at his age.
We always need the money for something, and nearly every quality young player I have seen here starting with Toshack has been sold as soon as one of the bigger clubs come in with a decent offer. I can assure you Ramsey would'nt have been here long irrespective of our financial situation at the time.
You're probably correct, but we definitely wouldn't have sold Ramsey on the cheap and I like to think we would have definitely demanded a sell on clause.
Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:01 pm
Steve Zodiak wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:Steve Zodiak wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I know this is from the other forum, but from what I've read here, he seems a massive loss with unlimited potential. A striker with frightening speed and brilliant ball control who effortlessly stepped into our under 18's recently as a 15 year old!
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-412184.html
exactly the type of player we needed to keep
Unfortunately, clubs like us remain powerless to keep our best youngsters from the big clubs like Man City. Money talks and no doubt his parents have been buttered up with promises of a new house, new car etc.
Need to put youself in his position as well. You can hardly compare a club like Man C to our club. Every youngster dreams of playing for one of the big clubs. We will always find it difficult to keep our most talented players, Ramsey being a perfect example.
Ramsey only left us because we needed the money to stop us going under, that's why we only sold him for 4.2 million with no sell on clause, Arsenal offered all the money up front and that 4.2 million saved our club.
It seemed the boy was developing nicely for us, making great progress. He is now in massive danger of going from a stand out youngster with us to just another youngster at Man City. There's obviously more competition in Man City's youth team for regular games, causing an increased risk of his potential stagnating through lack of game time and experience. The move is a huge gamble at his age.
We always need the money for something, and nearly every quality young player I have seen here starting with Toshack has been sold as soon as one of the bigger clubs come in with a decent offer. I can assure you Ramsey would'nt have been here long irrespective of our financial situation at the time.
You're probably correct, but we definitely wouldn't have sold Ramsey on the cheap and I like to think we would have definitely demanded a sell on clause.
He would have gone for a lot more money if we were'nt skint at the time, but he would still have gone. Look at the players who have gone in fairly recent times as soon as a bigger club come calling - Collins, Gabbidon, Blake, Delaney, Ramsey. These are just a few who spring to mind, I am sure you can think of plenty more. My memory is'nt what it used to be. We have for the most part always been a selling club, and have never been able to hang on to our top players for as long as I have been a fan.
Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:36 pm
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I know this is from the other forum, but from what I've read here, he seems a massive loss with unlimited potential. A striker with frightening speed and brilliant ball control who effortlessly stepped into our under 18's recently as a 15 year old!
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-412184.html
exactly the type of player we needed to keep
Unfortunately, clubs like us remain powerless to keep our best youngsters from the big clubs like Man City. Money talks and no doubt his parents have been buttered up with promises of a new house, new car etc.
Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:10 pm
Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:11 pm
ccfcsince62 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:wez1927 wrote:Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I know this is from the other forum, but from what I've read here, he seems a massive loss with unlimited potential. A striker with frightening speed and brilliant ball control who effortlessly stepped into our under 18's recently as a 15 year old!
http://www.ccmb.co.uk/archive/index.php/t-412184.html
exactly the type of player we needed to keep
Unfortunately, clubs like us remain powerless to keep our best youngsters from the big clubs like Man City. Money talks and no doubt his parents have been buttered up with promises of a new house, new car etc.
Rented house and a job for the dad I believe. Difficult to turn down by the family even if their footballing preference for their son was to stay at Cardiff
Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:16 pm
polo wrote:Man Cirys pursuit of this lad has been relentless.
There is NOTHING the club could have done.
Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:30 pm
wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:Man Cirys pursuit of this lad has been relentless.
There is NOTHING the club could have done.
just frustrating that he's a good prospect and we've lost him
Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:32 pm
polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:Man Cirys pursuit of this lad has been relentless.
There is NOTHING the club could have done.
just frustrating that he's a good prospect and we've lost him
Frustrating yes but you're just giving people more ammunition to have a go at the club when there's nothing they could do.
Not like you Wez
Fri Aug 12, 2016 10:57 pm
wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:Man Cirys pursuit of this lad has been relentless.
There is NOTHING the club could have done.
just frustrating that he's a good prospect and we've lost him
Sat Aug 13, 2016 9:47 am
Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:03 pm
polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:Man Cirys pursuit of this lad has been relentless.
There is NOTHING the club could have done.
just frustrating that he's a good prospect and we've lost him
Frustrating yes but you're just giving people more ammunition to have a go at the club when there's nothing they could do.
Not like you Wez
Sat Aug 13, 2016 12:10 pm
Jasonccfc wrote:polo wrote:wez1927 wrote:polo wrote:Man Cirys pursuit of this lad has been relentless.
There is NOTHING the club could have done.
just frustrating that he's a good prospect and we've lost him
Frustrating yes but you're just giving people more ammunition to have a go at the club when there's nothing they could do.
Not like you Wez
I thought that toIf hadnt looked at who posted it id have thought it was someone else
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 5:41 pm
Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:02 pm
Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:14 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Well if this is sign of things to come must wonder why bother with academy if premier clubs steal players away that are any good!
Sat Aug 13, 2016 6:39 pm
wez1927 wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Well if this is sign of things to come must wonder why bother with academy if premier clubs steal players away that are any good!
I was think of the same thing and 12 k a year is taking the piss