Jacks imploding

Finally it is their time.

Ayew looks to be heading out the door to West Ham. Williams looks to be heading to Everton. Allen rejected them for Stoke. New owners refusing to spend decent money to replace or strengthen. They have baulked at a 7m euro asking price for Llorente in what is supposed to be their richest season to date, so they are linked to the likes of 35 year old Peter Crouch instead

2 weeks away from the season starting and they have zero realistic striking options in their squad, and may have to replace their backbone and captain on a seemingly shoestring budget. In my opinion the new owners are trying to fund a stadium expansion without using a penny of their own money which will increase the value of the club so they can sell on quickly. However in the meantime their squad will be stripped bare and filled with cheap replacements. Even Bournemouth are making massive strides in the transfer department, the Jacks have been left way behind this term.

I know we say it every year, but this really does look like the year to sit back and watch

I'm sure this thread will get pulled up come next May when their sitting about 12th

I'm sure this thread will get pulled up come may when there sitting about 12th

Naturally, I hope Ealing is right but we never seem to learn when it comes to predicting their downfall...

Wishful thinking I reckon.

They have always bought well which is why they have done well.

If you sell your best players and either replace them with ageing cheap options, or even not at all - there is only one outcome. It really does feel like a sinking ship with these new Americans.

For the record, apart from their first season, I have never expected them to go down. But they are being outspent by even the newly promoted sides this season. This is the year, mark my words.

Just wait until the jacks come on here and read this,I can't stand the jacks but look at what they achieved, painful to say it,looked at their dealings in the transfer market,what a difference with ours,prime example being between Joe Allen and aron ramsey,they get 10 million for Allen we sold Ramsey for 4.8m lol,laughable really,they got big money back on players they sell,where we pay silly figures for players,then can't give them away

well, let's not poo-poo this too soon IF some of their top players leave and do not invest sufficiently, no doubt they're in for one long tough season. As of now, nothing has really happened. BUT, let's remember they missed out on Joe Allen. That is alarm bells, I agree with the OP on that

Just wait until the jacks come on here and read this,I can't stand the jacks but look at what they achieved, painful to say it,looked at their dealings in the transfer market,what a difference with ours,prime example being between Joe Allen and aron ramsey,they get 10 million for Allen we sold Ramsey for 4.8m lol,laughable really,they got big money back on players they sell,where we pay silly figures for players,then can't give them away

Sold Ramsey well before inflated premier prices, our only mistake was no sell on clause! At moment Swansea have got rid of 3 forwards dangerous thing to do so close to start season unless get better standard of player to replace them.

I think they have enough about them to do reasonably well but i think that these new owners will upset what was a good set up..
Nothing wrong with hoping for them to implode though i wish it every season because they are our local rivals.
They have been saying/wishing and predicting for us to go out of business for years so it works both ways

well, let's not poo-poo this too soon IF some of their top players leave and do not invest sufficiently, no doubt they're in for one long tough season. As of now, nothing has really happened. BUT, let's remember they missed out on Joe Allen. That is alarm bells, I agree with the OP on that

Thats exactly my point though, nothing has happened.

Everybody else has been strengthening, they have done NOTHING except get rid of all their strikers. Gomis gone to Marseille on loan, Paloschi gone to Atalanta for a loss leaving them just with the admittedly superb Ayew (who is not really a striker anyway) - who, I have heard is off to the Hammers imminently for £20 million.

Normally they would sell and then re-invest. But its clear with their targets and failed targets so far that the spending power just isnt there with the new owners, everything is earmarked for the stadium

Just wait until the jacks come on here and read this,I can't stand the jacks but look at what they achieved, painful to say it,looked at their dealings in the transfer market,what a difference with ours,prime example being between Joe Allen and aron ramsey,they get 10 million for Allen we sold Ramsey for 4.8m lol,laughable really,they got big money back on players they sell,where we pay silly figures for players,then can't give them away

Sold Ramsey well before inflated premier prices, our only mistake was no sell on clause! At moment Swansea have got rid of 3 forwards dangerous thing to do so close to start season unless get better standard of player to replace them.

Excuse number one

well, let's not poo-poo this too soon IF some of their top players leave and do not invest sufficiently, no doubt they're in for one long tough season. As of now, nothing has really happened. BUT, let's remember they missed out on Joe Allen. That is alarm bells, I agree with the OP on that

Thats exactly my point though, nothing has happened.

Everybody else has been strengthening, they have done NOTHING except get rid of all their strikers. Gomis gone to Marseille on loan, Paloschi gone to Atalanta for a loss leaving them just with the admittedly superb Ayew (who is not really a striker anyway) - who, I have heard is off to the Hammers imminently for £20 million.

Normally they would sell and then re-invest. But its clear with their targets and failed targets so far that the spending power just isnt there with the new owners, everything is earmarked for the stadium

They have spoken of buying/ extending stadium for several years even council derailed one attempt ! Not as easy as our extension, work on their stadium is much harder due to way it was built.

I'd love to think it but it's wishful thinking from the OP

Sadly, the Jacks will bo okay again, as there are several worse prepped teams than them in the Premier League, including those who went up from The Championship. Burnley, WBA and Sunderland will likely struggle too!

well, let's not poo-poo this too soon IF some of their top players leave and do not invest sufficiently, no doubt they're in for one long tough season. As of now, nothing has really happened. BUT, let's remember they missed out on Joe Allen. That is alarm bells, I agree with the OP on that

Thats exactly my point though, nothing has happened.

Everybody else has been strengthening, they have done NOTHING except get rid of all their strikers. Gomis gone to Marseille on loan, Paloschi gone to Atalanta for a loss leaving them just with the admittedly superb Ayew (who is not really a striker anyway) - who, I have heard is off to the Hammers imminently for £20 million.

Normally they would sell and then re-invest. But its clear with their targets and failed targets so far that the spending power just isnt there with the new owners, everything is earmarked for the stadium

Very good points, mine and your opinion will only change by what they do in the transfer market. As it stands, we think they may struggle.

Just wait until the jacks come on here and read this,I can't stand the jacks but look at what they achieved, painful to say it,looked at their dealings in the transfer market,what a difference with ours,prime example being between Joe Allen and aron ramsey,they get 10 million for Allen we sold Ramsey for 4.8m lol,laughable really,they got big money back on players they sell,where we pay silly figures for players,then can't give them away

Sold Ramsey well before inflated premier prices, our only mistake was no sell on clause! At moment Swansea have got rid of 3 forwards dangerous thing to do so close to start season unless get better standard of player to replace them.

Excuse number one

What Allen was overpriced when sold??

This manager will keep them up, some mangers just don't get relegated and I think they have one of those in this Italian bloke who seems clued up. That being said expectations are so high down there that if they are in the bottom 8 in December they will be calling for his head. They are one appointment away from hiring someone like Mcleish.

Just wait until the jacks come on here and read this,I can't stand the jacks but look at what they achieved, painful to say it,looked at their dealings in the transfer market,what a difference with ours,prime example being between Joe Allen and aron ramsey,they get 10 million for Allen we sold Ramsey for 4.8m lol,laughable really,they got big money back on players they sell,where we pay silly figures for players,then can't give them away

Sold Ramsey well before inflated premier prices, our only mistake was no sell on clause! At moment Swansea have got rid of 3 forwards dangerous thing to do so close to start season unless get better standard of player to replace them.

Excuse number one

What Allen was overpriced when sold??

I was surprised they got 10million (I think),but he's just gone for 13 mill, the excuse I was on about was you saying about inflated prices

Allen was sold to Liverpool for £15 million.

well, let's not poo-poo this too soon IF some of their top players leave and do not invest sufficiently, no doubt they're in for one long tough season. As of now, nothing has really happened. BUT, let's remember they missed out on Joe Allen. That is alarm bells, I agree with the OP on that

Thats exactly my point though, nothing has happened.

Everybody else has been strengthening, they have done NOTHING except get rid of all their strikers. Gomis gone to Marseille on loan, Paloschi gone to Atalanta for a loss leaving them just with the admittedly superb Ayew (who is not really a striker anyway) - who, I have heard is off to the Hammers imminently for £20 million.

Normally they would sell and then re-invest. But its clear with their targets and failed targets so far that the spending power just isnt there with the new owners, everything is earmarked for the stadium

They have spoken of buying/ extending stadium for several years even council derailed one attempt ! Not as easy as our extension, work on their stadium is much harder due to way it was built.

They can definitely do it, its just expensive. Hence why it is the richest season to date in the Premier League and they are shipping out anybody they can and not willing to spend anything. It was the reason the Americans have taken over IMO. It is the quickest way to add galue to a football club.

The playing side will therefore be neglected for the first time since they went up, and it probably needs it the most right now.

And right on cue... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36873983

Allen was sold to Liverpool for £15 million.

You're right, but Allen didn't turn down Swansea for Stoke, as Liverpool accepted Stoke's £13 million offer, but the Jacks only offered £8 million!

I'd love them to go down but they have players like sigurddson who is a top player. Can't see Williams leaving for Everton either and he is key player for them.

Hull are doomed in my opinion. Sunderland are going to struggle as are West Brom and Burnley.

The only way they'll go down is if they have a major injury crisis and likes of Sigurddson and Williams are sold.

Williams wont go. you still get the feeling they'll get an unknown Spaniard or something who will turn out to be a star and keep them up. Penny pinching will come back and bite them in the arse but not this season unfortunately

Just wait until the jacks come on here and read this,I can't stand the jacks but look at what they achieved, painful to say it,looked at their dealings in the transfer market,what a difference with ours,prime example being between Joe Allen and aron ramsey,they get 10 million for Allen we sold Ramsey for 4.8m lol,laughable really,they got big money back on players they sell,where we pay silly figures for players,then can't give them away

Sold Ramsey well before inflated premier prices, our only mistake was no sell on clause! At moment Swansea have got rid of 3 forwards dangerous thing to do so close to start season unless get better standard of player to replace them.

Excuse number one

What Allen was overpriced when sold??

I was surprised they got 10million (I think),but he's just gone for 13 mill, the excuse I was on about was you saying about inflated prices

Euros inflated his price not sure if he's worth it though!

well, let's not poo-poo this too soon IF some of their top players leave and do not invest sufficiently, no doubt they're in for one long tough season. As of now, nothing has really happened. BUT, let's remember they missed out on Joe Allen. That is alarm bells, I agree with the OP on that

Thats exactly my point though, nothing has happened.

Everybody else has been strengthening, they have done NOTHING except get rid of all their strikers. Gomis gone to Marseille on loan, Paloschi gone to Atalanta for a loss leaving them just with the admittedly superb Ayew (who is not really a striker anyway) - who, I have heard is off to the Hammers imminently for £20 million.

Normally they would sell and then re-invest. But its clear with their targets and failed targets so far that the spending power just isnt there with the new owners, everything is earmarked for the stadium

They have spoken of buying/ extending stadium for several years even council derailed one attempt ! Not as easy as our extension, work on their stadium is much harder due to way it was built.

They can definitely do it, its just expensive. Hence why it is the richest season to date in the Premier League and they are shipping out anybody they can and not willing to spend anything. It was the reason the Americans have taken over IMO. It is the quickest way to add galue to a football club.

The playing side will therefore be neglected for the first time since they went up, and it probably needs it the most right now.

And right on cue... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36873983

Several clubs have boosted stadium instead of playing staff and they have struggled notibaly wolves! As I pointed out council blocked bid before and it's not so simple with ospreys being there can't chuck them out and can't out price them from stadium as it's owned by people of Swansea ? Other factor may have to close part ground for a season or part of it due to nature of work required!

well, let's not poo-poo this too soon IF some of their top players leave and do not invest sufficiently, no doubt they're in for one long tough season. As of now, nothing has really happened. BUT, let's remember they missed out on Joe Allen. That is alarm bells, I agree with the OP on that

Thats exactly my point though, nothing has happened.

Everybody else has been strengthening, they have done NOTHING except get rid of all their strikers. Gomis gone to Marseille on loan, Paloschi gone to Atalanta for a loss leaving them just with the admittedly superb Ayew (who is not really a striker anyway) - who, I have heard is off to the Hammers imminently for £20 million.

Normally they would sell and then re-invest. But its clear with their targets and failed targets so far that the spending power just isnt there with the new owners, everything is earmarked for the stadium

They have spoken of buying/ extending stadium for several years even council derailed one attempt ! Not as easy as our extension, work on their stadium is much harder due to way it was built.

They can definitely do it, its just expensive. Hence why it is the richest season to date in the Premier League and they are shipping out anybody they can and not willing to spend anything. It was the reason the Americans have taken over IMO. It is the quickest way to add galue to a football club.

The playing side will therefore be neglected for the first time since they went up, and it probably needs it the most right now.

And right on cue... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36873983

Several clubs have boosted stadium instead of playing staff and they have struggled notibaly wolves! As I pointed out council blocked bid before and it's not so simple with ospreys being there can't chuck them out and can't out price them from stadium as it's owned by people of Swansea ? Other factor may have to close part ground for a season or part of it due to nature of work required!

Agree, I think its a big mistake for them.

But the deal will be relatively straight forward if the Swans want to make it happen, which they now obviously do. The council didnt block the move as such before, they just asked an amount Swansea couldnt afford to pay. The lease will be transferred to Swansea and the Ospreys will then owe them rent instead of the council.

It has been stated that in order to purchase the stadium and expand it would cost £50 million. Which is why I think there is nothing to spend and players are being sold. Any building work will obviously be done in the summer, providing they are still in the Premier League. But I have a sneaky suspition they won't be. If they get through this season unscathed then unfortunately they may just be okay for a ling while as they will then have funds to expand and strengthen the squad.

But im banking on this being their fall year. The key in all this is they now have owners willing to gamble on their wellbeing and take a chance they wont get relegated, where as previously, it would never happen.

well, let's not poo-poo this too soon IF some of their top players leave and do not invest sufficiently, no doubt they're in for one long tough season. As of now, nothing has really happened. BUT, let's remember they missed out on Joe Allen. That is alarm bells, I agree with the OP on that

Thats exactly my point though, nothing has happened.

Everybody else has been strengthening, they have done NOTHING except get rid of all their strikers. Gomis gone to Marseille on loan, Paloschi gone to Atalanta for a loss leaving them just with the admittedly superb Ayew (who is not really a striker anyway) - who, I have heard is off to the Hammers imminently for £20 million.

Normally they would sell and then re-invest. But its clear with their targets and failed targets so far that the spending power just isnt there with the new owners, everything is earmarked for the stadium

They have spoken of buying/ extending stadium for several years even council derailed one attempt ! Not as easy as our extension, work on their stadium is much harder due to way it was built.

They can definitely do it, its just expensive. Hence why it is the richest season to date in the Premier League and they are shipping out anybody they can and not willing to spend anything. It was the reason the Americans have taken over IMO. It is the quickest way to add galue to a football club.

The playing side will therefore be neglected for the first time since they went up, and it probably needs it the most right now.

And right on cue... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36873983

Several clubs have boosted stadium instead of playing staff and they have struggled notibaly wolves! As I pointed out council blocked bid before and it's not so simple with ospreys being there can't chuck them out and can't out price them from stadium as it's owned by people of Swansea ? Other factor may have to close part ground for a season or part of it due to nature of work required!

Agree, I think its a big mistake for them.

But the deal will be relatively straight forward if the Swans want to make it happen, which they now obviously do. The council didnt block the move as such before, they just asked an amount Swansea couldnt afford to pay. The lease will be transferred to Swansea and the Ospreys will then owe them rent instead of the council.

It has been stated that in order to purchase the stadium and expand it would cost £50 million. Which is why I think there is nothing to spend and players are being sold. Any building work will obviously be done in the summer, providing they are still in the Premier League. But I have a sneaky suspition they won't be. If they get through this season unscathed then unfortunately they may just be okay for a ling while as they will then have funds to expand and strengthen the squad.

But im banking on this being their fall year. The key in all this is they now have owners willing to gamble on their wellbeing and take a chance they wont get relegated, where as previously, it would never happen.

Agree they are gambling on staying in premier without basically spending much money! Can they do so much work in 12 weeks our stadium was purpose built to do quik expansion and still took us to start before end season to get job done in time, they don't have that luxury.?

Certainly. It will be more expensive due to it not being purpose built. But in terms of time. It wont be that different. But I genuinelly think we wont find out anytime soon as that trapdoor looks a lot larger this year.

Certainly. It will be more expensive due to it not being purpose built. But in terms of time. It wont be that different. But I genuinelly think we wont find out anytime soon as that trapdoor looks a lot larger this year.

Yes it as been slowly coming other teams have skrimped on quality and eventually fallen, at present it looks as if they are following similar route and time will tell if they go same way as villa/ Fulham and others.