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new signings

Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:06 pm

since last season we have swopped Jazz Richards for Malone and signed a striker on a free who is hardly an inspired signing...
immers and zohore were here last season.....i fear mid season mediocrity..we are hardly improving other sides are strengthening and moving on ... we are not...people i have talked to are not inspired by a season of the same old same old ...a quality signing or two is needed or we are going to struggle

Re: new signings

Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:22 pm

I think Trollope wants to sign a couple more players, but has been told to cut the wage bill. Hopefully, we can shift Alf, Kiko and Dikgacoi very quickly.

Re: new signings

Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:41 pm

kimble wrote:since last season we have swopped Jazz Richards for Malone and signed a striker on a free who is hardly an inspired signing...
immers and zohore were here last season.....i fear mid season mediocrity..we are hardly improving other sides are strengthening and moving on ... we are not...people i have talked to are not inspired by a season of the same old same old ...a quality signing or two is needed or we are going to struggle


You can be pretty certain that there will be no new players coming in until at least one (and possibly more) of Macheda, Le Fondre and Dikgacoi are off the wage bill.

Any replacement is likely to be a reasonably cheap gamble like Freddie.

The days of us signing established, experienced Championship players appear to have gone for the time being as they would be looking for more money than we are willing to pay, and the other clubs in the division paying such huge fees for players with no doubt very high wages also aren't helping the situation.

The club would no doubt be delighted with a season similar to last - a flirtation with the play-offs and a few million more wiped off the debt.

Re: new signings

Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:43 am

i think its a case of one out one in at the moment if mated goes hopefully we can sign a player straight away then. but i agree if we don't strengthen we will struggle to get play offs or promotion this year as so many teams have strengthened and we will be left behind

Re: new signings

Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:06 am

davids wrote:
kimble wrote:since last season we have swopped Jazz Richards for Malone and signed a striker on a free who is hardly an inspired signing...
immers and zohore were here last season.....i fear mid season mediocrity..we are hardly improving other sides are strengthening and moving on ... we are not...people i have talked to are not inspired by a season of the same old same old ...a quality signing or two is needed or we are going to struggle


You can be pretty certain that there will be no new players coming in until at least one (and possibly more) of Macheda, Le Fondre and Dikgacoi are off the wage bill.

Any replacement is likely to be a reasonably cheap gamble like Freddie.

The days of us signing established, experienced Championship players appear to have gone for the time being as they would be looking for more money than we are willing to pay, and the other clubs in the division paying such huge fees for players with no doubt very high wages also aren't helping the situation.

The club would no doubt be delighted with a season similar to last - a flirtation with the play-offs and a few million more wiped off the debt.



Your right mate and that's why yr after yr there's less ppl turning up,we may have decent numbers for the first few weeks but we ain't good enough we've not improved and ppl ain't daft enough to believe the club anymore,until we get new owners who are willing to back the manager mid table is about as gd as it gets

Re: new signings

Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:37 pm

kimble wrote:since last season we have swopped Jazz Richards for Malone and signed a striker on a free who is hardly an inspired signing...
immers and zohore were here last season.....i fear mid season mediocrity..we are hardly improving other sides are strengthening and moving on ... we are not...people i have talked to are not inspired by a season of the same old same old ...a quality signing or two is needed or we are going to struggle


We will not struggle with this squad
Immers was on loan last season ,now hes our player
Zohore was on loan last season ,now he's our player
Gunongbe has been signed and looks ok
Le fondre Macheda dikgicoi are costing £4.5 million in wages
It's not rocket science that we can not pay that kind of money for nothing and sign more players before we get them out of our club
Can't believe how some fans pick and choose what they remember and what they conveniently forget

Re: new signings

Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:04 pm

is anything i have said wrong ...... you belive we have improved.. i dont need you telling me that we need to get rid of deadwood ..i am on about the standard thats coming in...and i am right regardless of whether they are now our players they WERE HERE last year... i have supported cardiff city since 1967 and have a right to my opinion...you dont agree ..fine ..thats your opinion....

Re: new signings

Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:19 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
kimble wrote:since last season we have swopped Jazz Richards for Malone and signed a striker on a free who is hardly an inspired signing...
immers and zohore were here last season.....i fear mid season mediocrity..we are hardly improving other sides are strengthening and moving on ... we are not...people i have talked to are not inspired by a season of the same old same old ...a quality signing or two is needed or we are going to struggle


We will not struggle with this squad
Immers was on loan last season ,now hes our player
Zohore was on loan last season ,now he's our player
Gunongbe has been signed and looks ok
Le fondre Macheda dikgicoi are costing £4.5 million in wages
It's not rocket science that we can not pay that kind of money for nothing and sign more players before we get them out of our club
Can't believe how some fans pick and choose what they remember and what they conveniently forget


We have to get rid before we spend or we will end up in an embargo which the same people will then moan about. We are paying for costly mistakes in the past, I'm just glad the club are finally getting things right off the field, which in the long run will give us every chance to succeed. If you want instant success your following the wrong club now. Tan tried that to start, got promotion, spent big in the summer and we fucked it up with the whole club a shambles.

Re: new signings

Sun Jul 31, 2016 1:56 pm

kimble wrote:is anything i have said wrong ...... you belive we have improved.. i dont need you telling me that we need to get rid of deadwood ..i am on about the standard thats coming in...and i am right regardless of whether they are now our players they WERE HERE last year... i have supported cardiff city since 1967 and have a right to my opinion...you dont agree ..fine ..thats your opinion....

Yes in fact what you said is wrong in my humble opinion
So immers didn't cost us anything ( what standard is he by the way )
Jazz is better than Malone and is a better standard
Have we got worse
Of course you have a right to your opinion
But guess what this a a forum for debate if you don't want to read others views I suggest you don't post yours

Re: new signings

Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:07 pm

Its you that seems to think everyone is entitled to your opinion...if you dont like what i post dont read it.....

Re: new signings

Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:24 pm

kimble wrote:Its you that seems to think everyone is entitled to your opinion...if you dont like what i post dont read it.....


The biggest improvement so far IMO is the fact we are playing a formation, or formations, that suit our players. We have good players who were being overrun in the 4-4-2 that we stuck too.

Of course we would all like to add new faces, and I think we are missing a proven striker but we are being sensibly run now which is a good thing for our future, we are still trying to get rid of a very average and expensive side out together by OGS.

Re: new signings

Sun Jul 31, 2016 10:31 pm

kimble wrote:Its you that seems to think everyone is entitled to your opinion...if you dont like what i post dont read it.....

Sorry but your totally wrong
how would I know if I dont agree with you if I dont read your post
your headline is newsignings
could that possibly mean we have signed players
you dont seem to have any debating skills
and your reply doesnt read right or make sense

Re: new signings

Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:45 am

there you go again steve ...i am totally wrong.... if i dont say what you want to hear i am wrong... and you say i have no debating skills... read Carl s post about getting off to a good start..he also mentions that Zahore and immers were here last year...regardless of whether on loan or now signed...my point is with the season starting saturday the only changes we have is a swop with jaz richjards and another freebie which doesn t exactly set the world alight.

Re: new signings

Mon Aug 01, 2016 7:34 am

kimble wrote:there you go again steve ...i am totally wrong.... if i dont say what you want to hear i am wrong... and you say i have no debating skills... read Carl s post about getting off to a good start..he also mentions that Zahore and immers were here last year...regardless of whether on loan or now signed...my point is with the season starting saturday the only changes we have is a swop with jaz richjards and another freebie which doesn t exactly set the world alight.


The only changes...

How about a fundamental shift in management structure with top-tier support staff brought in, including an absolutely critical fitness/conditioning performance director who frankly could do a lot better than our club. Shifting out the weaker of the management team (Young) to support other areas more suited.

Should we also include the change of formation and system, a more dynamic style suited to our players and easily adapted?

What about the ethos?

Inclusion of young players?

This means more than some marquee signings that may or may not have any impact, or gel with the rest of the team.

I, like anyone, get excited when big names are linked, but those names have less of an impact than the 'everything else' which we're taking care of quite nicely.

Who needs new names when you can knock most of the players up a few gears and improve the overall structure and style?

We may not see many new names on the shirts, but I think we'll see a very different team on the pitch.

Re: new signings

Mon Aug 01, 2016 8:33 am

ashi83 wrote:
kimble wrote:there you go again steve ...i am totally wrong.... if i dont say what you want to hear i am wrong... and you say i have no debating skills... read Carl s post about getting off to a good start..he also mentions that Zahore and immers were here last year...regardless of whether on loan or now signed...my point is with the season starting saturday the only changes we have is a swop with jaz richjards and another freebie which doesn t exactly set the world alight.


The only changes...

How about a fundamental shift in management structure with top-tier support staff brought in, including an absolutely critical fitness/conditioning performance director who frankly could do a lot better than our club. Shifting out the weaker of the management team (Young) to support other areas more suited.

Should we also include the change of formation and system, a more dynamic style suited to our players and easily adapted?

What about the ethos?

Inclusion of young players?

This means more than some marquee signings that may or may not have any impact, or gel with the rest of the team.

I, like anyone, get excited when big names are linked, but those names have less of an impact than the 'everything else' which we're taking care of quite nicely.

Who needs new names when you can knock most of the players up a few gears and improve the overall structure and style?

We may not see many new names on the shirts, but I think we'll see a very different team on the pitch.

Excellent post mate. My sentiments exactly. I suppose time will tell though.

Re: new signings

Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:18 am

And.................we're back in blue so suck it up boys and girls.We should all be grateful we're not in Div 2. :ayatollah:

Re: new signings

Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:25 am

ashi83 wrote:
kimble wrote:there you go again steve ...i am totally wrong.... if i dont say what you want to hear i am wrong... and you say i have no debating skills... read Carl s post about getting off to a good start..he also mentions that Zahore and immers were here last year...regardless of whether on loan or now signed...my point is with the season starting saturday the only changes we have is a swop with jaz richjards and another freebie which doesn t exactly set the world alight.


The only changes...

How about a fundamental shift in management structure with top-tier support staff brought in, including an absolutely critical fitness/conditioning performance director who frankly could do a lot better than our club. Shifting out the weaker of the management team (Young) to support other areas more suited.

Should we also include the change of formation and system, a more dynamic style suited to our players and easily adapted?

What about the ethos?

Inclusion of young players?

This means more than some marquee signings that may or may not have any impact, or gel with the rest of the team.

I, like anyone, get excited when big names are linked, but those names have less of an impact than the 'everything else' which we're taking care of quite nicely.

Who needs new names when you can knock most of the players up a few gears and improve the overall structure and style?

We may not see many new names on the shirts, but I think we'll see a very different team on the pitch.

^this^

Re: new signings

Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:59 am

ashi83 wrote:
kimble wrote:there you go again steve ...i am totally wrong.... if i dont say what you want to hear i am wrong... and you say i have no debating skills... read Carl s post about getting off to a good start..he also mentions that Zahore and immers were here last year...regardless of whether on loan or now signed...my point is with the season starting saturday the only changes we have is a swop with jaz richjards and another freebie which doesn t exactly set the world alight.


The only changes...

How about a fundamental shift in management structure with top-tier support staff brought in, including an absolutely critical fitness/conditioning performance director who frankly could do a lot better than our club. Shifting out the weaker of the management team (Young) to support other areas more suited.

Should we also include the change of formation and system, a more dynamic style suited to our players and easily adapted?

What about the ethos?

Inclusion of young players?

This means more than some marquee signings that may or may not have any impact, or gel with the rest of the team.

I, like anyone, get excited when big names are linked, but those names have less of an impact than the 'everything else' which we're taking care of quite nicely.

Who needs new names when you can knock most of the players up a few gears and improve the overall structure and style?

We may not see many new names on the shirts, but I think we'll see a very different team on the pitch.


Yeah,quite right ash83.Its amazing what a "glass half full attitude can do"I'm more enthusiastic about this season than I have been for a while.Now watch us take 3pts from the first 5 games. :lol:

Re: new signings

Mon Aug 01, 2016 6:02 pm

ashi83 wrote:
kimble wrote:there you go again steve ...i am totally wrong.... if i dont say what you want to hear i am wrong... and you say i have no debating skills... read Carl s post about getting off to a good start..he also mentions that Zahore and immers were here last year...regardless of whether on loan or now signed...my point is with the season starting saturday the only changes we have is a swop with jaz richjards and another freebie which doesn t exactly set the world alight.


The only changes...

How about a fundamental shift in management structure with top-tier support staff brought in, including an absolutely critical fitness/conditioning performance director who frankly could do a lot better than our club. Shifting out the weaker of the management team (Young) to support other areas more suited.

Should we also include the change of formation and system, a more dynamic style suited to our players and easily adapted?

What about the ethos?

Inclusion of young players?

This means more than some marquee signings that may or may not have any impact, or gel with the rest of the team.

I, like anyone, get excited when big names are linked, but those names have less of an impact than the 'everything else' which we're taking care of quite nicely.

Who needs new names when you can knock most of the players up a few gears and improve the overall structure and style?

We may not see many new names on the shirts, but I think we'll see a very different team on the pitch.


Great post :ayatollah:

Re: new signings

Mon Aug 01, 2016 9:41 pm

I honestly don't understand the mentality of our fans, complain that we have thrown money and wages at players who don't deserve it yet now we are cost cutting and making the club more stable by the day and making it a more financially organised club people want us to waste money.

I think Tan and co since the change to blue again have done a fantastic club and are finally since gone back to blue are understanding the football side from us supporters.

I think getting Immers who improved the team and made us look more of a threat going forward was a good signing, FG is showing promising signs in pre season.

People forget we was competing with teams spending 5 million, even 10-20 million last season.

Re: new signings

Tue Aug 02, 2016 8:17 am

ashi83 wrote:
kimble wrote:there you go again steve ...i am totally wrong.... if i dont say what you want to hear i am wrong... and you say i have no debating skills... read Carl s post about getting off to a good start..he also mentions that Zahore and immers were here last year...regardless of whether on loan or now signed...my point is with the season starting saturday the only changes we have is a swop with jaz richjards and another freebie which doesn t exactly set the world alight.


The only changes...

How about a fundamental shift in management structure with top-tier support staff brought in, including an absolutely critical fitness/conditioning performance director who frankly could do a lot better than our club. Shifting out the weaker of the management team (Young) to support other areas more suited.

Should we also include the change of formation and system, a more dynamic style suited to our players and easily adapted?

What about the ethos?

Inclusion of young players?

This means more than some marquee signings that may or may not have any impact, or gel with the rest of the team.

I, like anyone, get excited when big names are linked, but those names have less of an impact than the 'everything else' which we're taking care of quite nicely.

Who needs new names when you can knock most of the players up a few gears and improve the overall structure and style?

We may not see many new names on the shirts, but I think we'll see a very different team on the pitch.



Well said mate, I'm looking forward to seeing a new Cardiff City this season despite not that many face changes.

Pretty much every senior player in our squad has been promoted from this league and/or played at a higher level so there's no reason with the right system and ethos we can't make a real challenge.