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Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:06 pm

" Stronger together ccfc "

The Welsh teams moot stronger together.
My question is can city fans take a leaf out of the Wales team and can we see city fans doing this .
The club seems divided still city putting season ticket prices down yet still only 10 k for next season.city fans are Welsh fans too and we have been just like the fans we saw out in France.can we get that back wouldn't it be great together stronger or is it divided for longer its heart breaking really at city how do you see it and how can we fix it .

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Fri Jul 08, 2016 8:08 pm

brickyblue wrote:" Stronger together ccfc "

The Welsh teams moot stronger together.
My question is can city fans take a leaf out of the Wales team and can we see city fans doing this .
The club seems divided still city putting season ticket prices down yet still only 10 k for next season.city fans are Welsh fans too and we have been just like the fans we saw out in France.can we get that back wouldn't it be great together stronger or is it divided for longer its heart breaking really at city how do you see it and how can we fix it .


Spot on.

Over to Wayne Nash, Ken Choo and even Tan :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:26 pm

Nash ain't going to fix it Annis he's part of the problem

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:26 pm

Nash ain't going to fix it Annis he's part of the problem

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:27 pm

Dessy1927 wrote:Nash ain't going to fix it Annis he's part of the problem


Dessy, he is the problem.

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:18 am

Simple choice for our Club really, do they bite the bullet and do everything in their power to cash in on the feel good factor and show that our fans opinions are worth listening to OR carry on trying to fill our 33000 stadium capacity by issuing freebie tickets? If they want paying customers to return they need to switch Family Stand to a different part of the ground and fill the Grange Stand with loud vocal support to create the same kind of atmosphere that we all know could lift our players and be our 12th man. So please Cardiff City do the right thing. Teza

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:47 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Dessy1927 wrote:Nash ain't going to fix it Annis he's part of the problem


Dessy, he is the problem.

I know it's gutting Annis we all know what needs to happen in that stadium, and aslong as he's at our club it's never going to happen which is a shame as we need a spark to get fans going again and atmosphere plays such a part in the whole match day experience. I was gutted last time I visited with my stepson as it was so bad. Our fans have shown now it's about football and our casual days are a thing of the past so why can't club show a little faith in us?

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:26 am

TERRYB wrote:Simple choice for our Club really, do they bite the bullet and do everything in their power to cash in on the feel good factor and show that our fans opinions are worth listening to OR carry on trying to fill our 33000 stadium capacity by issuing freebie tickets? If they want paying customers to return they need to switch Family Stand to a different part of the ground and fill the Grange Stand with loud vocal support to create the same kind of atmosphere that we all know could lift our players and be our 12th man. So please Cardiff City do the right thing. Teza


Playing devil’s advocate the club could argue that it 'listened' over reverting to blue and cutting the cost of season tickets and that has made no difference to attendance levels at CCS and they continue to plummet.

I would like to see an experiment where the ends were exchanged and my opinion is that the atmosphere would probably improve. The annoying thing is this is a leftover from the Ridsdale era and he is more to blame than anyone over this issue.

However, we are asking the club to incur further expense without any guarantee it will improve attendance at the ground. That is the problem we have if we wish to change the singing area at CCS

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 8:47 am

Dessy1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Dessy1927 wrote:Nash ain't going to fix it Annis he's part of the problem


Dessy, he is the problem.

I know it's gutting Annis we all know what needs to happen in that stadium, and aslong as he's at our club it's never going to happen which is a shame as we need a spark to get fans going again and atmosphere plays such a part in the whole match day experience. I was gutted last time I visited with my stepson as it was so bad. Our fans have shown now it's about football and our casual days are a thing of the past so why can't club show a little faith in us?


Dessy, Ive tried and many others have tried speaking to him, but its more than zero tolerance, he wants happy clapping.
Correct we the fans can be trusted nowadays :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :bluebird: :bluebird:

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:03 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
TERRYB wrote:Simple choice for our Club really, do they bite the bullet and do everything in their power to cash in on the feel good factor and show that our fans opinions are worth listening to OR carry on trying to fill our 33000 stadium capacity by issuing freebie tickets? If they want paying customers to return they need to switch Family Stand to a different part of the ground and fill the Grange Stand with loud vocal support to create the same kind of atmosphere that we all know could lift our players and be our 12th man. So please Cardiff City do the right thing. Teza


Playing devil’s advocate the club could argue that it 'listened' over reverting to blue and cutting the cost of season tickets and that has made no difference to attendance levels at CCS and they continue to plummet.

So the choice is do they incur additional costs to provide our fans with a new standing singing section NEXT to visiting fans thereby creating a better atmosphere OR incur additional costs by providing free tickets to try and create a crowd and at the same time anger all those loyal fans who shelled out their money to buy season tickets? There is nothing to lose and everything to gain because as soon as the ends are switched you will see thousands of missing fans flooding back. There is no reason in my opinion why this, coupled with a team playing attractive winning football, cannot fail to make our stadium a fortress again. Really looking forward to the new season. Teza

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:30 am

TERRYB wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
TERRYB wrote:Simple choice for our Club really, do they bite the bullet and do everything in their power to cash in on the feel good factor and show that our fans opinions are worth listening to OR carry on trying to fill our 33000 stadium capacity by issuing freebie tickets? If they want paying customers to return they need to switch Family Stand to a different part of the ground and fill the Grange Stand with loud vocal support to create the same kind of atmosphere that we all know could lift our players and be our 12th man. So please Cardiff City do the right thing. Teza


Playing devil’s advocate the club could argue that it 'listened' over reverting to blue and cutting the cost of season tickets and that has made no difference to attendance levels at CCS and they continue to plummet.

So the choice is do they incur additional costs to provide our fans with a new standing singing section NEXT to visiting fans thereby creating a better atmosphere OR incur additional costs by providing free tickets to try and create a crowd and at the same time anger all those loyal fans who shelled out their money to buy season tickets? There is nothing to lose and everything to gain because as soon as the ends are switched you will see thousands of missing fans flooding back. There is no reason in my opinion why this, coupled with a team playing attractive winning football, cannot fail to make our stadium a fortress again. Really looking forward to the new season. Teza


With respect mate the very same claims were made prior to reverting to blue, cutting the price of season tickets and writing off debt. You can't possibly guarantee that thousands will come flooding back if the ends were changed, because the 3 prior efforts failed so badly.

If we start playing attractive winning football the fans will return in any case and it will have nothing to do with swapping ends. Personally I would like it to happen but would fully understand the club if it thought this was another expense occurring project doomed to fail.

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:33 am

I personally can so no reason why swapping ends would be a problem I think if both sets of passionate fans were situated together the atmospheric conditions would only improve why wouldn't they.
We as fans have been thorough a lot at ccfc and its time for bold brave decisions to be made by our club .what about a safe standing terrace area that would bring my age group flooding back the over 40 s.the club also need to show ambition on the pitch I no we have to meet financial rules but our rivals are making some good signings we ain't that counts for a lot.
The Stewart's need to be retrained on how they do there jobs they kill a lot at the atmosphere.
People have just got fed up with it all but they are still cardiff fans the club's just needs to get em back.
We have no Cardiff or Wales born players no earnsharw no Dwyer or led let in are team that would help a hometown player where are they.
We need to carry on the Welsh football teams feel good factor at city look how many fans turned up at ccs to welcome home Wales 33k and football on show the fans are here it's up to ccfc to connect into it and if it means Wayne Nash has to be moved on or told what to allow what ever for God sake get in with it.

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:46 am

brickyblue wrote:I personally can so no reason why swapping ends would be a problem I think if both sets of passionate fans were situated together the atmospheric conditions would only improve why wouldn't they.
We as fans have been thorough a lot at ccfc and its time for bold brave decisions to be made by our club .what about a safe standing terrace area that would bring my age group flooding back the over 40 s.the club also need to show ambition on the pitch I no we have to meet financial rules but our rivals are making some good signings we ain't that counts for a lot.
The Stewart's need to be retrained on how they do there jobs they kill a lot at the atmosphere.
People have just got fed up with it all but they are still cardiff fans the club's just needs to get em back.
We have no Cardiff or Wales born players no earnsharw no Dwyer or led let in are team that would help a hometown player where are they.
We need to carry on the Welsh football teams feel good factor at city look how many fans turned up at ccs to welcome home Wales 33k and football on show the fans are here it's up to ccfc to connect into it and if it means Wayne Nash has to be moved on or told what to allow what ever for God sake get in with it.


Once again 100% agree with you, I asked Nash this and as long as he is anchorage,he says it will never happen swopping ends.

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:55 am

Forever Blue wrote:
brickyblue wrote:I personally can so no reason why swapping ends would be a problem I think if both sets of passionate fans were situated together the atmospheric conditions would only improve why wouldn't they.
We as fans have been thorough a lot at ccfc and its time for bold brave decisions to be made by our club .what about a safe standing terrace area that would bring my age group flooding back the over 40 s.the club also need to show ambition on the pitch I no we have to meet financial rules but our rivals are making some good signings we ain't that counts for a lot.
The Stewart's need to be retrained on how they do there jobs they kill a lot at the atmosphere.
People have just got fed up with it all but they are still cardiff fans the club's just needs to get em back.
We have no Cardiff or Wales born players no earnsharw no Dwyer or led let in are team that would help a hometown player where are they.
We need to carry on the Welsh football teams feel good factor at city look how many fans turned up at ccs to welcome home Wales 33k and football on show the fans are here it's up to ccfc to connect into it and if it means Wayne Nash has to be moved on or told what to allow what ever for God sake get in with it.


Once again 100% agree with you, I asked Nash this and as long as he is anchorage,he says it will never happen swopping ends.


Well the club's has big decisions to make mate doesn't it if he is holding it back get rid of the man .
Also if we were first to bring in safe standing that would bring in the fans you no that .
It sounds to me Nash is a killjoy so up to city to sort it in it the stewards also need to back off .
The fans are there there is a reason why they don't come because it's shit the Buzz of a game is gone I used to be buzzing you no the feeling its gone the stadium is boring it has to change mate up to city isn't it

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 12:16 pm

Don't think it matters a huge amount where the supporters are placed. This club playing at the second level in the football league will attract what it always has, between 12 & 15k. If we are challenging at the very top an extra five to eight thousand for some of the bigger games. The way the stadium is managed does not help, but ultimately it is success on the pitch that will have the biggest effect on attendances.

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:32 pm

Steve Zodiak wrote:Don't think it matters a huge amount where the supporters are placed. This club playing at the second level in the football league will attract what it always has, between 12 & 15k. If we are challenging at the very top an extra five to eight thousand for some of the bigger games. The way the stadium is managed does not help, but ultimately it is success on the pitch that will have the biggest effect on attendances.


I agree 100%, switching ends will have little or no affect on attendance figures. Exciting successful football and the club showing some ambition will. Quotes like happy clappers and plastics are also unnecessary! Football has changed over the years and will never return to what they were. I think the club is right not to switch ends? Why risk creating a hostile atmosphere and potential trouble just because a few hundred supporters want it!

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:46 pm

Lanwood wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:Don't think it matters a huge amount where the supporters are placed. This club playing at the second level in the football league will attract what it always has, between 12 & 15k. If we are challenging at the very top an extra five to eight thousand for some of the bigger games. The way the stadium is managed does not help, but ultimately it is success on the pitch that will have the biggest effect on attendances.


I agree 100%, switching ends will have little or no affect on attendance figures. Exciting successful football and the club showing some ambition will. Quotes like happy clappers and plastics are also unnecessary! Football has changed over the years and will never return to what they were. I think the club is right not to switch ends? Why risk creating a hostile atmosphere and potential trouble just because a few hundred supporters want it!


I go with my kids anyway but I do like a game with a good atmosphere and the kids do get involved when it's good.
I get your point about the trouble but we have a state of the art stadium with cctv everywhere and as long as the correct segregation measures are in place the whole match day experience would be a far better one for me .

The safe standing terracing is also a good consideration.

The atmosphere isn't good and has to be addressed and this a talking point.

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:53 pm

Lanwood wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:Don't think it matters a huge amount where the supporters are placed. This club playing at the second level in the football league will attract what it always has, between 12 & 15k. If we are challenging at the very top an extra five to eight thousand for some of the bigger games. The way the stadium is managed does not help, but ultimately it is success on the pitch that will have the biggest effect on attendances.


I agree 100%, switching ends will have little or no affect on attendance figures. Exciting successful football and the club showing some ambition will. Quotes like happy clappers and plastics are also unnecessary! Football has changed over the years and will never return to what they were. I think the club is right not to switch ends? Why risk creating a hostile atmosphere and potential trouble just because a few hundred supporters want it!



You are right- and attacks on club staff, slagging other fans off and bitching about part time fans is hardly 'stronger together'

We need to drop all this shit and move forward, working together and welcoming all new and old fans in to our club.

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:18 pm

Lawnmower wrote:
Lanwood wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:Don't think it matters a huge amount where the supporters are placed. This club playing at the second level in the football league will attract what it always has, between 12 & 15k. If we are challenging at the very top an extra five to eight thousand for some of the bigger games. The way the stadium is managed does not help, but ultimately it is success on the pitch that will have the biggest effect on attendances.


I agree 100%, switching ends will have little or no affect on attendance figures. Exciting successful football and the club showing some ambition will. Quotes like happy clappers and plastics are also unnecessary! Football has changed over the years and will never return to what they were. I think the club is right not to switch ends? Why risk creating a hostile atmosphere and potential trouble just because a few hundred supporters want it!



You are right- and attacks on club staff, slagging other fans off and bitching about part time fans is hardly 'stronger together'

We need to drop all this shit and move forward, working together and welcoming all new and old fans in to our club.


I disagree to a point football is all about the banter though and if we Did swap ends it would help that I'm not saying bring back the bad old days but nothing wrong with banter it creates a good atmosphere in a game which is what football is .I'm sure in this modern day and age the club could safely do it.
You have to admit it's awful at times at our staduim.
Agree success brings bums as Well but something needs doing on both accounts and I think creating a good atmosphere by moving stands would bring back a Buzz about going to watch city it's missing in recent years apart from a few games be nice to get it back don't you think or you happy as it is

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:42 pm

Atmosphere when Wales play at stadium is superb, so it must be Cardiff City,s moaning supporters or crap team?

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sun Jul 10, 2016 12:36 am

brickyblue wrote:
Lawnmower wrote:
Lanwood wrote:
Steve Zodiak wrote:Don't think it matters a huge amount where the supporters are placed. This club playing at the second level in the football league will attract what it always has, between 12 & 15k. If we are challenging at the very top an extra five to eight thousand for some of the bigger games. The way the stadium is managed does not help, but ultimately it is success on the pitch that will have the biggest effect on attendances.


I agree 100%, switching ends will have little or no affect on attendance figures. Exciting successful football and the club showing some ambition will. Quotes like happy clappers and plastics are also unnecessary! Football has changed over the years and will never return to what they were. I think the club is right not to switch ends? Why risk creating a hostile atmosphere and potential trouble just because a few hundred supporters want it!



You are right- and attacks on club staff, slagging other fans off and bitching about part time fans is hardly 'stronger together'

We need to drop all this shit and move forward, working together and welcoming all new and old fans in to our club.


I disagree to a point football is all about the banter though and if we Did swap ends it would help that I'm not saying bring back the bad old days but nothing wrong with banter it creates a good atmosphere in a game which is what football is .I'm sure in this modern day and age the club could safely do it.
You have to admit it's awful at times at our staduim.
Agree success brings bums as Well but something needs doing on both accounts and I think creating a good atmosphere by moving stands would bring back a Buzz about going to watch city it's missing in recent years apart from a few games be nice to get it back don't you think or you happy as it is


I'm sorry but football is not all about banter, it's about all fans enjoying the match day experience in a safe environment There are people on here living in the dark ages who need to adapt to change. Forget the opposing fans and get behind the team just like the Welsh fans have!!!

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sun Jul 10, 2016 6:53 am

considering there is CCTV Everywhere, the new stadium makes it extremely unlikely that serious disturbances would be a common occurrence at the ground. Fans of both teams have never been safer.

"Let's get behind the team like Wales fans have." Em, sorry to burst people's illusions on this, Wales couldn't muster up a decent crowd a few years back when the team were struggling. The link between good atmosphere and good results is a valid one I do believe that.

However, I also believe there is a marked difference to fans excited to watch Wales against a big National side in a qualifier, to watching a Cardiff side against opposition they have watched play against countless times over the years. The fans need a lift, and that comes from the energy created by the 'hardcore' away support.

Re: " Stronger together ccfc "

Sun Jul 10, 2016 9:28 am

Ultimately the Club should be doing whatever is required to produce a memorable and enjoyable match day experience for it's loyal supporters and to entice back the thousands who have decided they no longer want to be there to give their support. A lot of fans have turned their back on home games preferring to support the team away. Surely anything is worth trying and in my opinion there will be a standing singing section next to the away fans in the near future. Currently the Canton Stand can't hear the away fans and vice versa so without that there won't be a decent atmosphere UNLESS other parts of the ground try to also join in. The reason why a lot of our fans have deserted is they no longer enjoy their matchday experience and that is down to over zealous stewarding and creating a divide between fans and Club. If our Club really wants to demonstrate a unity with our fans they will address this issue. Let's get the same togetherness that exists when the national team play at our Stadium and then you will see the fans return.