Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:25 am
Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:32 am
City Slicker wrote:"Et tu Brutus" Maybe you should have hooked up with your old school chum Dave after all Boris
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:08 pm
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:18 pm
wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:27 pm
Owain wrote:wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market
It will be interesting to see what happens with Ireland. I guess that means they'll have to establish border controls between Ireland and NI?
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:31 pm
wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:32 pm
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:33 pm
wez1927 wrote:Owain wrote:wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market
It will be interesting to see what happens with Ireland. I guess that means they'll have to establish border controls between Ireland and NI?
they never did before in the common market before the eu superstate become
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:34 pm
piledriver64 wrote:wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market
May would certainly bring the Tories together and provide stability. However, Gove is an absolute nutter and completely out of touch with today's society (just look at some of his policies in Education)so if he gets it I would suggest that Labour and the Tories will all be in the same boat ............... F*$£^D![]()
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:36 pm
Bluebird For Life wrote:piledriver64 wrote:wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market
May would certainly bring the Tories together and provide stability. However, Gove is an absolute nutter and completely out of touch with today's society (just look at some of his policies in Education)so if he gets it I would suggest that Labour and the Tories will all be in the same boat ............... F*$£^D![]()
Gove is a treacherous, back stabbing c**t said Boris in a thinly disguised introduction that quoted Cesar. Jesus, these people are scary. They have no idea of who is doing what and who they can and cannot trust even within their own circles. And I mean that about all politicians, not just the Brexiteers.
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:40 pm
Owain wrote:wez1927 wrote:Owain wrote:wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market
It will be interesting to see what happens with Ireland. I guess that means they'll have to establish border controls between Ireland and NI?
they never did before in the common market before the eu superstate become
But you want the UK to have border controls. What's to stop someone from the EU flying into Ireland, and then wandering over to Northern Ireland?
Northern Ireland would have a border with the EU.
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:41 pm
markeMark wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:piledriver64 wrote:wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market
May would certainly bring the Tories together and provide stability. However, Gove is an absolute nutter and completely out of touch with today's society (just look at some of his policies in Education)so if he gets it I would suggest that Labour and the Tories will all be in the same boat ............... F*$£^D![]()
Gove is a treacherous, back stabbing c**t said Boris in a thinly disguised introduction that quoted Cesar. Jesus, these people are scary. They have no idea of who is doing what and who they can and cannot trust even within their own circles. And I mean that about all politicians, not just the Brexiteers.
Michael Gove always reminds me of the Harry Enfield character, 'Tim Nice but Dim'.
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:46 pm
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:47 pm
Bluebird For Life wrote:they forgot about that one...and if Scotland stays in we will have the extraordinary situation where the age old adage about showing a passport to go there becoming reality.
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:48 pm
Owain wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:they forgot about that one...and if Scotland stays in we will have the extraordinary situation where the age old adage about showing a passport to go there becoming reality.
I can definitely see it being a reality, as the scots aren't going to be dragged our of the EU/single market. Part of me hopes it happens, but little old Wales would end up being just another county in England.
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:51 pm
Bluebird For Life wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:The future is exciting with trade from around the world. There was lies on both sides and there is still scare moungering going on from the remain trying to destabilise everything. The country has voted it has said what it now wants, everyone now needs to get behind it and make it work. The only way it will fail is if everyone who wanted to stay keeps throwing there dummies out and deliberately sabotages the whole process. Cameron is being paid to lead and that is what he should do instead of resigning he should now lead the country into a new era.[/quot
Thankfully Cameron is far more clever than many people gave him credit for. I'm no fan incidentally, but he's played a blinder hasn't he; ruined the career of Boris and hopefully Gove too now that everyone has found out his real motives for supporting Brexit.
Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:54 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:The future is exciting with trade from around the world. There was lies on both sides and there is still scare moungering going on from the remain trying to destabilise everything. The country has voted it has said what it now wants, everyone now needs to get behind it and make it work. The only way it will fail is if everyone who wanted to stay keeps throwing there dummies out and deliberately sabotages the whole process. Cameron is being paid to lead and that is what he should do instead of resigning he should now lead the country into a new era.[/quot
Thankfully Cameron is far more clever than many people gave him credit for. I'm no fan incidentally, but he's played a blinder hasn't he; ruined the career of Boris and hopefully Gove too now that everyone has found out his real motives for supporting Brexit.
Cant stand Cameron myself but after seeing the short list I gotta say I'd prefer the tw*t we all knowTheresa May my god she recently said Britain could learn something from Sheria Law
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Really !! Shows what sort of woman she is.
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Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:09 pm
Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:11 pm
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:There is no pathway to allow Scotland into the EU, they will have to become an independent state and then apply. Would take years plus the Spanish PM sounded very hostile to the idea and as you all know it only takes one member to veto any membership application.
The EU the Scots love doesn't exist, they will get savaged by the beast in Brussels and I look forward to it.
Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:25 pm
Owain wrote:Bluebird since 1948 wrote:There is no pathway to allow Scotland into the EU, they will have to become an independent state and then apply. Would take years plus the Spanish PM sounded very hostile to the idea and as you all know it only takes one member to veto any membership application.
The EU the Scots love doesn't exist, they will get savaged by the beast in Brussels and I look forward to it.
He's obviously going to be hostile to the idea, as it would pave the way for the Catalans and Basque country to do the same. Good luck to them I say
Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:25 pm
Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:48 pm
Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:49 pm
I hope they do have a border you need borders for securityOwain wrote:wez1927 wrote:Owain wrote:wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market
It will be interesting to see what happens with Ireland. I guess that means they'll have to establish border controls between Ireland and NI?
they never did before in the common market before the eu superstate become
But you want the UK to have border controls. What's to stop someone from the EU flying into Ireland, and then wandering over to Northern Ireland?
Northern Ireland would have a border with the EU.
Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:52 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:The future is exciting with trade from around the world. There was lies on both sides and there is still scare moungering going on from the remain trying to destabilise everything. The country has voted it has said what it now wants, everyone now needs to get behind it and make it work. The only way it will fail is if everyone who wanted to stay keeps throwing there dummies out and deliberately sabotages the whole process. Cameron is being paid to lead and that is what he should do instead of resigning he should now lead the country into a new era.
Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:46 pm
Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:51 pm
Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:58 pm
Owain wrote:Job done. They can throw away their Union jacks and stop singing GSTQ then.
Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:26 pm
Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:47 am
powysblue wrote:Nuclearblue wrote:The future is exciting with trade from around the world. There was lies on both sides and there is still scare moungering going on from the remain trying to destabilise everything. The country has voted it has said what it now wants, everyone now needs to get behind it and make it work. The only way it will fail is if everyone who wanted to stay keeps throwing there dummies out and deliberately sabotages the whole process. Cameron is being paid to lead and that is what he should do instead of resigning he should now lead the country into a new era.
100% mate.
I am not surprised at the MP's who are "throwing their toys out of the pram" now that they have been humiliated for getting it wrong but the public in general is another matter - We live in a democracy and in a democracy the people speak, the loosers conceed and everyone gets together to make it work.
At least that is what supposed to be like in democracy.
I voted OUT, nearly everybody I know voted OUT and we achieved OUT but I and plenty of others warned that the political overlords would never let it happen.
From the morning of the OUT vote it has been clear to me that the BAD LOSERS would push and push to get their agenda by fair means or foul.
I will say this in my 55th year on this earth - that if we somehow get stopped from leaving the EU and trading with the world, it's no exageration to say that it is the end of the democratic process in the UK and not just us but the whole of civilised society will be F-cked !!!
I have voted since I was 18 years of age and proud to uphold our democratic right to do so, what all our fathers and for fathers and myself fought for. But I will say this , that if the above happens and democracy looses, I for one will never vote again.
Sorry to be so deep but It Is that Important to us all.
Wales Forever - Blooobirds Forever !!!
Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:09 am