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Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:25 am

"Et tu Brutus" Maybe you should have hooked up with your old school chum Dave after all Boris :oops:

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:32 am

City Slicker wrote:"Et tu Brutus" Maybe you should have hooked up with your old school chum Dave after all Boris :oops:


Gove done him like a kipper. Brexiteer's ca'nt be trusted, it seems.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:08 pm

great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:18 pm

wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market


It will be interesting to see what happens with Ireland. I guess that means they'll have to establish border controls between Ireland and NI?

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:27 pm

Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market


It will be interesting to see what happens with Ireland. I guess that means they'll have to establish border controls between Ireland and NI?

they never did before in the common market before the eu superstate become

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:31 pm

wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market


May would certainly bring the Tories together and provide stability. However, Gove is an absolute nutter and completely out of touch with today's society (just look at some of his policies in Education)so if he gets it I would suggest that Labour and the Tories will all be in the same boat ............... F*$£^D :lol: :shock:

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:32 pm

The future is exciting with trade from around the world. There was lies on both sides and there is still scare moungering going on from the remain trying to destabilise everything. The country has voted it has said what it now wants, everyone now needs to get behind it and make it work. The only way it will fail is if everyone who wanted to stay keeps throwing there dummies out and deliberately sabotages the whole process. Cameron is being paid to lead and that is what he should do instead of resigning he should now lead the country into a new era.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:33 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market


It will be interesting to see what happens with Ireland. I guess that means they'll have to establish border controls between Ireland and NI?

they never did before in the common market before the eu superstate become


But you want the UK to have border controls. What's to stop someone from the EU flying into Ireland, and then wandering over to Northern Ireland?

Northern Ireland would have a border with the EU.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:34 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market


May would certainly bring the Tories together and provide stability. However, Gove is an absolute nutter and completely out of touch with today's society (just look at some of his policies in Education)so if he gets it I would suggest that Labour and the Tories will all be in the same boat ............... F*$£^D :lol: :shock:


Gove is a treacherous, back stabbing c**t said Boris in a thinly disguised introduction that quoted Cesar. Jesus, these people are scary. They have no idea of who is doing what and who they can and cannot trust even within their own circles. And I mean that about all politicians, not just the Brexiteers.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:36 pm

Bluebird For Life wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market


May would certainly bring the Tories together and provide stability. However, Gove is an absolute nutter and completely out of touch with today's society (just look at some of his policies in Education)so if he gets it I would suggest that Labour and the Tories will all be in the same boat ............... F*$£^D :lol: :shock:


Gove is a treacherous, back stabbing c**t said Boris in a thinly disguised introduction that quoted Cesar. Jesus, these people are scary. They have no idea of who is doing what and who they can and cannot trust even within their own circles. And I mean that about all politicians, not just the Brexiteers.

Michael Gove always reminds me of the Harry Enfield character, 'Tim Nice but Dim'.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:40 pm

Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market


It will be interesting to see what happens with Ireland. I guess that means they'll have to establish border controls between Ireland and NI?

they never did before in the common market before the eu superstate become


But you want the UK to have border controls. What's to stop someone from the EU flying into Ireland, and then wandering over to Northern Ireland?

Northern Ireland would have a border with the EU.


they forgot about that one...and if Scotland stays in we will have the extraordinary situation where the age old adage about showing a passport to go there becoming reality.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:41 pm

markeMark wrote:
Bluebird For Life wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market


May would certainly bring the Tories together and provide stability. However, Gove is an absolute nutter and completely out of touch with today's society (just look at some of his policies in Education)so if he gets it I would suggest that Labour and the Tories will all be in the same boat ............... F*$£^D :lol: :shock:


Gove is a treacherous, back stabbing c**t said Boris in a thinly disguised introduction that quoted Cesar. Jesus, these people are scary. They have no idea of who is doing what and who they can and cannot trust even within their own circles. And I mean that about all politicians, not just the Brexiteers.

Michael Gove always reminds me of the Harry Enfield character, 'Tim Nice but Dim'.


A good comparison apart from the fact that Gove is a much more dangerous proposition.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:46 pm

[quote="Nuclearblue"]The future is exciting with trade from around the world. There was lies on both sides and there is still scare moungering going on from the remain trying to destabilise everything. The country has voted it has said what it now wants, everyone now needs to get behind it and make it work. The only way it will fail is if everyone who wanted to stay keeps throwing there dummies out and deliberately sabotages the whole process. Cameron is being paid to lead and that is what he should do instead of resigning he should now lead the country into a new era.[/quot

Thankfully Cameron is far more clever than many people gave him credit for. I'm no fan incidentally, but he's played a blinder hasn't he; ruined the career of Boris and hopefully Gove too now that everyone has found out his real motives for supporting Brexit.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:47 pm

Bluebird For Life wrote:they forgot about that one...and if Scotland stays in we will have the extraordinary situation where the age old adage about showing a passport to go there becoming reality.


I can definitely see it being a reality, as the scots aren't going to be dragged our of the EU/single market. Part of me hopes it happens, but little old Wales would end up being just another county in England.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:48 pm

Owain wrote:
Bluebird For Life wrote:they forgot about that one...and if Scotland stays in we will have the extraordinary situation where the age old adage about showing a passport to go there becoming reality.


I can definitely see it being a reality, as the scots aren't going to be dragged our of the EU/single market. Part of me hopes it happens, but little old Wales would end up being just another county in England.


Sadly mate - that it was the welsh people voted for, so who could blame Westminster if they took that attitude. Nobody to blame but ourselves.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:51 pm

Bluebird For Life wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:The future is exciting with trade from around the world. There was lies on both sides and there is still scare moungering going on from the remain trying to destabilise everything. The country has voted it has said what it now wants, everyone now needs to get behind it and make it work. The only way it will fail is if everyone who wanted to stay keeps throwing there dummies out and deliberately sabotages the whole process. Cameron is being paid to lead and that is what he should do instead of resigning he should now lead the country into a new era.[/quot

Thankfully Cameron is far more clever than many people gave him credit for. I'm no fan incidentally, but he's played a blinder hasn't he; ruined the career of Boris and hopefully Gove too now that everyone has found out his real motives for supporting Brexit.

Cant stand Cameron myself but after seeing the short list I gotta say I'd prefer the tw*t we all know :lol: Theresa May my god she recently said Britain could learn something from Sheria Law :shock: :o :shock: Really !! Shows what sort of woman she is.
Wish Farage could be Prime Minister but hey ho that is another argument :happy1: :happy1:

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 12:54 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
Bluebird For Life wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:The future is exciting with trade from around the world. There was lies on both sides and there is still scare moungering going on from the remain trying to destabilise everything. The country has voted it has said what it now wants, everyone now needs to get behind it and make it work. The only way it will fail is if everyone who wanted to stay keeps throwing there dummies out and deliberately sabotages the whole process. Cameron is being paid to lead and that is what he should do instead of resigning he should now lead the country into a new era.[/quot

Thankfully Cameron is far more clever than many people gave him credit for. I'm no fan incidentally, but he's played a blinder hasn't he; ruined the career of Boris and hopefully Gove too now that everyone has found out his real motives for supporting Brexit.

Cant stand Cameron myself but after seeing the short list I gotta say I'd prefer the tw*t we all know :lol: Theresa May my god she recently said Britain could learn something from Sheria Law :shock: :o :shock: Really !! Shows what sort of woman she is.
Wish Farage could be Prime Minister but hey ho that is another argument :happy1: :happy1:


I'm afraid we have to agree to differ on Farage but your post really hits the nail on the head. Cameron wasn't everyone's cup of tea but he was a safe pair of hands in the main and now look what we are left with...

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:09 pm

There is no pathway to allow Scotland into the EU, they will have to become an independent state and then apply. Would take years plus the Spanish PM sounded very hostile to the idea and as you all know it only takes one member to veto any membership application.

The EU the Scots love doesn't exist, they will get savaged by the beast in Brussels and I look forward to it.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:11 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:There is no pathway to allow Scotland into the EU, they will have to become an independent state and then apply. Would take years plus the Spanish PM sounded very hostile to the idea and as you all know it only takes one member to veto any membership application.

The EU the Scots love doesn't exist, they will get savaged by the beast in Brussels and I look forward to it.


He's obviously going to be hostile to the idea, as it would pave the way for the Catalans and Basque country to do the same. Good luck to them I say :thumbup:

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:25 pm

Owain wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:There is no pathway to allow Scotland into the EU, they will have to become an independent state and then apply. Would take years plus the Spanish PM sounded very hostile to the idea and as you all know it only takes one member to veto any membership application.

The EU the Scots love doesn't exist, they will get savaged by the beast in Brussels and I look forward to it.


He's obviously going to be hostile to the idea, as it would pave the way for the Catalans and Basque country to do the same. Good luck to them I say :thumbup:


I wish good luck to the Scots in their bid for independence but I have grown tired of their unwavering love of the EU. I can tell you now that the EU they think exists doesn't. They voted to keep the EU but if the Spaniards refuse to back down the EU will abandon them. The arrogance of Sturgeon to suggest that they can stay a member of the EU whilst the rest of us leave is astounding.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:25 pm

Scotlands idea of staying in EU is going it alone with Gibraltar or having independence they cannot afford to fund themselves !! Sounds like good idea to me :old:

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:48 pm

What has Scotland and Gibralter got to offer the EU ? Nothing, they need the UK to pay in vast amount of money so they can give Scotland a little back. The EU is a dead man walking anyway.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:49 pm

Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Owain wrote:
wez1927 wrote:great news for brexit borris was too weak, may or gove will definitely be stronger on non negotiate free movement,there will be no free movement after we leave the eu now which was one of the main issues,funny how Germany and France have come out today and backtracked about there could be a deal done where we won't have to have free movement in the single market


It will be interesting to see what happens with Ireland. I guess that means they'll have to establish border controls between Ireland and NI?

they never did before in the common market before the eu superstate become


But you want the UK to have border controls. What's to stop someone from the EU flying into Ireland, and then wandering over to Northern Ireland?

Northern Ireland would have a border with the EU.
I hope they do have a border you need borders for security

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 4:52 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:The future is exciting with trade from around the world. There was lies on both sides and there is still scare moungering going on from the remain trying to destabilise everything. The country has voted it has said what it now wants, everyone now needs to get behind it and make it work. The only way it will fail is if everyone who wanted to stay keeps throwing there dummies out and deliberately sabotages the whole process. Cameron is being paid to lead and that is what he should do instead of resigning he should now lead the country into a new era.


100% mate.

I am not surprised at the MP's who are "throwing their toys out of the pram" now that they have been humiliated for getting it wrong but the public in general is another matter - We live in a democracy and in a democracy the people speak, the loosers conceed and everyone gets together to make it work.

At least that is what supposed to be like in democracy.

I voted OUT, nearly everybody I know voted OUT and we achieved OUT but I and plenty of others warned that the political overlords would never let it happen.

From the morning of the OUT vote it has been clear to me that the BAD LOSERS would push and push to get their agenda by fair means or foul.

I will say this in my 55th year on this earth - that if we somehow get stopped from leaving the EU and trading with the world, it's no exageration to say that it is the end of the democratic process in the UK and not just us but the whole of civilised society will be F-cked !!!

I have voted since I was 18 years of age and proud to uphold our democratic right to do so, what all our fathers and for fathers and myself fought for. But I will say this , that if the above happens and democracy looses, I for one will never vote again.

Sorry to be so deep but It Is that Important to us all.

Wales Forever - Blooobirds Forever !!! :old:

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:46 pm

Give back the six counties to Ireland, problem solved.

And if the Union rag waving loyalist buffoons play up tell them to f**k off and pipe down.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:51 pm

Job done. They can throw away their Union jacks and stop singing GSTQ then.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:58 pm

Owain wrote:Job done. They can throw away their Union jacks and stop singing GSTQ then.


Yes and this nonsense of having a non country like Northern Ireland in the Euros will be over. I was in Paris during the Euros, spoke to these Belfast lads all supporting the Republic. They told me Catholics like them are made to feel very unwelcome when it comes to supporting Northern Ireland.

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:26 pm

I did post last Friday - ABB ;)

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:47 am

powysblue wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:The future is exciting with trade from around the world. There was lies on both sides and there is still scare moungering going on from the remain trying to destabilise everything. The country has voted it has said what it now wants, everyone now needs to get behind it and make it work. The only way it will fail is if everyone who wanted to stay keeps throwing there dummies out and deliberately sabotages the whole process. Cameron is being paid to lead and that is what he should do instead of resigning he should now lead the country into a new era.


100% mate.

I am not surprised at the MP's who are "throwing their toys out of the pram" now that they have been humiliated for getting it wrong but the public in general is another matter - We live in a democracy and in a democracy the people speak, the loosers conceed and everyone gets together to make it work.

At least that is what supposed to be like in democracy.

I voted OUT, nearly everybody I know voted OUT and we achieved OUT but I and plenty of others warned that the political overlords would never let it happen.

From the morning of the OUT vote it has been clear to me that the BAD LOSERS would push and push to get their agenda by fair means or foul.

I will say this in my 55th year on this earth - that if we somehow get stopped from leaving the EU and trading with the world, it's no exageration to say that it is the end of the democratic process in the UK and not just us but the whole of civilised society will be F-cked !!!

I have voted since I was 18 years of age and proud to uphold our democratic right to do so, what all our fathers and for fathers and myself fought for. But I will say this , that if the above happens and democracy looses, I for one will never vote again.

Sorry to be so deep but It Is that Important to us all.

Wales Forever - Blooobirds Forever !!! :old:



As far as I have seen people in conservative leadership battle have stated no new refurendum? As for Boris he's not stupid if he won leadership every time we lost a concession to EU he would get hammered! He'll be back in about 3/4 years guaranteed . :old:

Re: Boris Backed The Wrong Horse

Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:09 am

Michael Gove thinks we should bring the death penalty back.

Tells you everything you need to know about what lies ahead for the country. Time to emigrate.