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' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:22 am

' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

IF WE UNITE,WE WILL ONLY GET BIGGER & STRONGER AGAIN :ayatollah: :ayatollah:
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Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 10:41 am

Hear hear :thumbup:

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:28 am

A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty.

You won't go far wrong following that mantra :thumbup:

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:37 am

Great quote from Winston Churchill and how I personally saw the opportunity to get the UK's future back in the hands of its own citizens! :thumbup:

Seize the moment; seize the day! :ayatollah:

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:29 pm

IF WE UNITE,WE WILL ONLY GET BIGGER & STRONGER AGAIN - surely that's an argument for uniting with Europe?

The French have had a terrible time of it lately with terrorism and instead of standing shoulder to shoulder with them the Brexit mob have run away.

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:48 pm

:thumbup: :thumbup:

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 12:53 pm

ninianboy wrote:IF WE UNITE,WE WILL ONLY GET BIGGER & STRONGER AGAIN - surely that's an argument for uniting with Europe?

The French have had a terrible time of it lately with terrorism and instead of standing shoulder to shoulder with them the Brexit mob have run away.

Love the way people who voted leave are a mob and various other things. Anyone would think it was a handful of unruly thugs who voted to leave, and not the people who actually won the referendum by over one and a quarter million votes. Some people still struggling to understand what a democracy is.

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:00 pm

ninianboy wrote:IF WE UNITE,WE WILL ONLY GET BIGGER & STRONGER AGAIN - surely that's an argument for uniting with Europe?

The French have had a terrible time of it lately with terrorism and instead of standing shoulder to shoulder with them the Brexit mob have run away.




No one has run away from standing shoulder to shoulder with our neighbours. In fact, that statement couldn't be further from the truth! :roll:

The UK has a proud record of standing shoulder to shoulder with its neighbours in modern times and has often led the way rather than sat back when the time for people to get their hands dirty was required!

Now you've taken this thread into negativity mode, he're's another way to think about how Brexit could be a positive for the UK:

For over 40 years the UK has seen its contributions increase astronomically whilst getting less and less back as more and more countries join the 'club' and more and more self-determination is eroded

If I came into your house looking for alms you would probably help me out. But what if I then moved in, told you how to run your affairs, demanded you give me access to all your money and now and then I allow you to use a little portion of YOUR hard-earned cash now and then for your own purposes...on condition I approve it, of course!

Hmmm, I think you'd be kicking me out and telling me "Oi, fella! No! I am more than capable of putting my own house in order and looking after my own family. If you need something, ask; but don't take liberties when I hold out the arm of friendship and cooperation!"

The EU has gone way beyond its original remit and we know where it would like to go next. If you did even an ounce of proper research, you will see that the UK is one of the more likely of the EU members to do what they have now done and make a success of it in partnership but on its own terms! ;) :thumbup:

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:05 pm

Yes the people of the UK will be stalwart and brave as they become worse off.

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:12 pm

ninianboy wrote:IF WE UNITE,WE WILL ONLY GET BIGGER & STRONGER AGAIN - surely that's an argument for uniting with Europe?

The French have had a terrible time of it lately with terrorism and instead of standing shoulder to shoulder with them the Brexit mob have run away.

Who's running away? This country stood shoulder to shoulder with France in the 1940's. We were'nt in the EU then.

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:30 pm

alexc wrote:Yes the people of the UK will be stalwart and brave as they become worse off.




You nicely avoided providing any value to that statement there! LOL :lol:

Watch this space, I guess but I think the people of the UK have a bit more about them than that and will come through this situation as they have many more serious ones historically!

You can either be positive or negative at this juncture and the former will have a better impact than the latter!

As Dad's Army's Private Frazer (Scottish actor John Laurie) once said: "We're all doomed, Captain Mainwaring, we're all doomed, I tell you!"

But we're not, are we? We've just changed direction! ;) :thumbup:

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:45 pm

History is littered with failed empires, the warnings were there but they were scoffed at.

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:04 pm

Sven wrote:
ninianboy wrote:IF WE UNITE,WE WILL ONLY GET BIGGER & STRONGER AGAIN - surely that's an argument for uniting with Europe?

The French have had a terrible time of it lately with terrorism and instead of standing shoulder to shoulder with them the Brexit mob have run away.




No one has run away from standing shoulder to shoulder with our neighbours. In fact, that statement couldn't be further from the truth! :roll:

The UK has a proud record of standing shoulder to shoulder with its neighbours in modern times and has often led the way rather than sat back when the time for people to get their hands dirty was required!

Now you've taken this thread into negativity mode, he're's another way to think about how Brexit could be a positive for the UK:

For over 40 years the UK has seen its contributions increase astronomically whilst getting less and less back as more and more countries join the 'club' and more and more self-determination is eroded

If I came into your house looking for alms you would probably help me out. But what if I then moved in, told you how to run your affairs, demanded you give me access to all your money and now and then I allow you to use a little portion of YOUR hard-earned cash now and then for your own purposes...on condition I approve it, of course!

Hmmm, I think you'd be kicking me out and telling me "Oi, fella! No! I am more than capable of putting my own house in order and looking after my own family. If you need something, ask; but don't take liberties when I hold out the arm of friendship and cooperation!"

The EU has gone way beyond its original remit and we know where it would like to go next. If you did even an ounce of proper research, you will see that the UK is one of the more likely of the EU members to do what they have now done and make a success of it in partnership but on its own terms! ;) :thumbup:

I think the Common Market and the EEC were a good idea, and could still be good. I was old enough to be able to vote at the last referendum, and from what I remember the primary aim had always been to remove barriers to trade between the member countries. I don't recall us voting to hand more and more of our law making powers over to the EEC, nor being told that we would no longer be able to deport terrorists, but instead would have to pay to keep them in luxury houses while many of us struggled to earn a living. I still think the EU could be good, but it needs a major overhaul, and it is not only the people of the UK who are getting disillusioned with it.

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:08 pm

alexc wrote:History is littered with failed empires, the warnings were there but they were scoffed at.




Oh dear! :oops: :oops:

Let's all now sit back and do nothing in case (in hope?) it fails and we get tarred with the 'failure' brush! :roll:

There are two types of people going forward from here on in; those who try to make a difference (even if that is carrying on regardless) and those who mope around feeling sorry for themselves!

History can be viewed in many ways and the 'truths' will often be different to their perceptions ;)

Now, are you going to contribute with anything that makes sense/has a point (beyond a whinge) today? :?

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:22 pm

Sven wrote:Now, are you going to contribute with anything that makes sense/has a point (beyond a whinge) today? :?


Who moderates the moderators?

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:31 pm

ninianboy wrote:IF WE UNITE,WE WILL ONLY GET BIGGER & STRONGER AGAIN - surely that's an argument for uniting with Europe?

The French have had a terrible time of it lately with terrorism and instead of standing shoulder to shoulder with them the Brexit mob have run away.


What a silly statement to make

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:33 pm

alexc wrote:History is littered with failed empires, the warnings were there but they were scoffed at.


Idiot

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:34 pm

stuey1981 wrote:
ninianboy wrote:IF WE UNITE,WE WILL ONLY GET BIGGER & STRONGER AGAIN - surely that's an argument for uniting with Europe?

The French have had a terrible time of it lately with terrorism and instead of standing shoulder to shoulder with them the Brexit mob have run away.


What a silly statement to make


Yep what a silly tw*t

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:47 pm

alexc wrote:
Sven wrote:Now, are you going to contribute with anything that makes sense/has a point (beyond a whinge) today? :?


Who moderates the moderators?




Oh dear (again)! :oops:

WTF has that got to do with this (one-sided) exchange of views? :?

Another quote from Dad's Army: "They don't like it up 'em, Captain Mainwaring!" :laughing6:

Re: ' NOWS THE TIME TO LOOK TO THE FUTURE '

Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:56 pm

alexc wrote:History is littered with failed empires, the warnings were there but they were scoffed at.
The EU is a failing empire