CCFC TRANSFER TARGETS/EU?

Seems we tend to sign a lot of players from abroad and the eu, most recently lex immers saadi and zohore all came from european countrys.

I assume we could very well have targets lined up in the foreign market again but i was just wondering had the brexit completely put a stop to our transfer targets?
Anyone know how it works can we still sign players from abroad at this moment in time without the work permit stuff like signing say a south american player?

Visas will be required probably but not for a couple of years.

Visas will be required probably but not for a couple of years.

Yeh. Am i right in thinking nothing will change at the moment and not for a year or 2 it will be business as normal?

Get them in quick another player of lex immers quality is what we need!

Seems we tend to sign a lot of players from abroad and the eu, most recently lex immers saadi and zohore all came from european countrys.

I assume we could very well have targets lined up in the foreign market again but i was just wondering had the brexit completely put a stop to our transfer targets?
Anyone know how it works can we still sign players from abroad at this moment in time without the work permit stuff like signing say a south american player?

It takes at least 2 years to exit the EU and clock doesn't start until we activate article 50 which won't happen until at least October. Even then it could take up to 5 years to finalise everything.

So this years transfer targets are safe for sure

I'm not expecting it to change much when it happens I think something will be worked around it.

I try and be optimistic about things and apply some common sense. So when it comes to football it is a massive earner. Not just for the players. But the treasury. One top premier league player probably generates more tax than a sizeable group on an average salary. The treasury would be stupid to make it hard for these guys to come in. We would be able to set What ever visa rules we wanted so can tailor to what suits us. That's assuming we do not take a Norwegian position and have free movement which would make it a moot point anyway

Thing is we are not going to be signing the crème de la crème, or paying top wages, so will players still want to uproot families and kids for a two year contract which is surely all we can sensibly offer them now?

Do not think it will make any difference from what it is now.

If we want a trade agreement with the EU then we have to agree to allow EU members to work here.

Do not think it will make any difference from what it is now.

If we want a trade agreement with the EU then we have to agree to allow EU members to work here.

whyou would we they need us more than we n3ed them we don't have to agree to an6thingcwe are a bigger fish than norway or Swiss

Do not think it will make any difference from what it is now.

If we want a trade agreement with the EU then we have to agree to allow EU members to work here.

whyou would we they need us more than we n3ed them we don't have to agree to an6thingcwe are a bigger fish than norway or Swiss

I don`t follow the logic of your argument Wez.

Exports from the UK to the EU represent a far higher percentage of the UK`s total exports than the UK represents as a percentage of the EU`s total exports. So the EU is far more important to the UK than the UK is to the EU.

Also , I can tell you from personal business experience that the UK is only important to a number of investors from across the world , like US and Japanese companies ,because it gives them far easier EU market access. Even the grants available to attract such companies here (which are likely to dry up considerably in any case as Wales receives less money to offer out to inward investors) will not be enough to persuade them to continue to invest here - they will go direct to EU countries instead , and it has already started happening.

Do not think it will make any difference from what it is now.

If we want a trade agreement with the EU then we have to agree to allow EU members to work here.

whyou would we they need us more than we n3ed them we don't have to agree to an6thingcwe are a bigger fish than norway or Swiss

I don`t follow the logic of your argument Wez.

Exports from the UK to the EU represent a far higher percentage ohe UK`s total exports than the UK represents as a percentage of the EU`s total exports. So the EU is far more important to the UK than the UK is to the EU.

Also , I can tell you from personal business experience that the UK is only important to a number of investors from across the world , like US and Japanese companies ,because it gives them far easier EU market access. Even the grants available to attract such companies here (which are likely to dry up considerably in any case as Wales receives less money to offer out to inward investors) will not be enough to persuade them to continue to invest here - they will go direct to EU countries instead , and it has already started happening.

That was happening well before the EU referendum and would have continued even if we had voted in. The UK represents 16% of all EU worldwide exports which represents their biggest overseas market and hardly something they would want to lose or upset.

Do not think it will make any difference from what it is now.

If we want a trade agreement with the EU then we have to agree to allow EU members to work here.

whyou would we they need us more than we n3ed them we don't have to agree to an6thingcwe are a bigger fish than norway or Swiss

I don`t follow the logic of your argument Wez.

Exports from the UK to the EU represent a far higher percentage ohe UK`s total exports than the UK represents as a percentage of the EU`s total exports. So the EU is far more important to the UK than the UK is to the EU.

Also , I can tell you from personal business experience that the UK is only important to a number of investors from across the world , like US and Japanese companies ,because it gives them far easier EU market access. Even the grants available to attract such companies here (which are likely to dry up considerably in any case as Wales receives less money to offer out to inward investors) will not be enough to persuade them to continue to invest here - they will go direct to EU countries instead , and it has already started happening.

That was happening well before the EU referendum and would have continued even if we had voted in. The UK represents 16% of all EU worldwide exports which represents their biggest overseas market and hardly something they would want to lose or upset.

Whilst the UK is an important export market for the rest of the EU , as you correctly state it is only 16% of their total export market , whileas approximately one half of all UK exports are to the EU. That was the point I was making , that the EU as a market is far more important to the UK than vice versa.

More worrying to me is the negative impact Brexit is going to have on attracting inward investment to Wales. I have personal experience of one such project that would have created many jobs that is now not going to happen. I know Brexit will actually take some time to implement , but big business tends to think medium to long term and many potential inward investing companies are now going to choose somewhere that is firmly within the EU internal market rather than the UK which is almost certainly going to be outside it within a few years. No one is going to invest here , then move their operations again in the short to medium term.

Brexit has happened and , in the spirit of democracy , must be accepted by those like myself that voted to remain within the EU . However , I cannot believe that some areas in Wales that will suffer considerable financial loss as a result of voting out supported leaving. In my view , it was a combination of the Remain campaign being so poorly run (or undermined by the likes of Jeremy Corbyn) and not enough people thinking through the consequences of their vote.

I am also concerned that both the Conservative and Labour parties are in a state of disarray. This both leaves no-one to oversee and negotiate the best exit terms and leaves a political vacuum for the like of the odious and racist UKIP party to step into (my opinion obviously of their policies and plans).Whoever gets into a position of power in Westminster will not be rushing to focus on replacing what Wales will lose financially from Brexit as all will have a "Little Englander" attitude. The Conservatives don`t care about Wales as they get hardly any votes here and Labour continue to believe (I think increasingly over optimistically) that they are still living in an era where putting a Labour Party rosette on a donkey would still get it elected to Parliament in Wales.

Do not think it will make any difference from what it is now.

If we want a trade agreement with the EU then we have to agree to allow EU members to work here.

whyou would we they need us more than we n3ed them we don't have to agree to an6thingcwe are a bigger fish than norway or Swiss

I don`t follow the logic of your argument Wez.

Exports from the UK to the EU represent a far higher percentage ohe UK`s total exports than the UK represents as a percentage of the EU`s total exports. So the EU is far more important to the UK than the UK is to the EU.

Also , I can tell you from personal business experience that the UK is only important to a number of investors from across the world , like US and Japanese companies ,because it gives them far easier EU market access. Even the grants available to attract such companies here (which are likely to dry up considerably in any case as Wales receives less money to offer out to inward investors) will not be enough to persuade them to continue to invest here - they will go direct to EU countries instead , and it has already started happening.

That was happening well before the EU referendum and would have continued even if we had voted in. The UK represents 16% of all EU worldwide exports which represents their biggest overseas market and hardly something they would want to lose or upset.

Whilst the UK is an important export market for the rest of the EU , as you correctly state it is only 16% of their total export market , whileas approximately one half of all UK exports are to the EU. That was the point I was making , that the EU as a market is far more important to the UK than vice versa.

More worrying to me is the negative impact Brexit is going to have on attracting inward investment to Wales. I have personal experience of one such project that would have created many jobs that is now not going to happen. I know Brexit will actually take some time to implement , but big business tends to think medium to long term and many potential inward investing companies are now going to choose somewhere that is firmly within the EU internal market rather than the UK which is almost certainly going to be outside it within a few years. No one is going to invest here , then move their operations again in the short to medium term.

Brexit has happened and , in the spirit of democracy , must be accepted by those like myself that voted to remain within the EU . However , I cannot believe that some areas in Wales that will suffer considerable financial loss as a result of voting out supported leaving. In my view , it was a combination of the Remain campaign being so poorly run (or undermined by the likes of Jeremy Corbyn) and not enough people thinking through the consequences of their vote.

I am also concerned that both the Conservative and Labour parties are in a state of disarray. This both leaves no-one to oversee and negotiate the best exit terms and leaves a political vacuum for the like of the odious and racist UKIP party to step into (my opinion obviously of their policies and plans).Whoever gets into a position of power in Westminster will not be rushing to focus on replacing what Wales will lose financially from Brexit as all will have a "Little Englander" attitude. The Conservatives don`t care about Wales as they get hardly any votes here and Labour continue to believe (I think increasingly over optimistically) that they are still living in an era where putting a Labour Party rosette on a donkey would still get it elected to Parliament in Wales.

The thing is '62 there won't be any 'Brexit' only 'Brickit'.

Already it is pretty well obvious the 'Brexiteers' have no coherent plan and it appears they have been handed a poisoned chalice. They're bricking themselves.

Even now they are rowing back on many of the idiotic promises they made on NHS funding and immigration. Once the experts they loathe manage to knock some sense into them I see a much more Europhile, centre left body of negotiators smoothing the way to an 'honourable' reconciliation with the EU.

Of course they will have to see off the loathsome Kippers but sooner or later British politics will wake up to the realisation that they are the real enemy anyway.

When the USA and Germany go full out on the offensive with both Britain and the Commission, I see a far different outcome. 'Brexit' is emphatically not in their interests.

It may well be difficult to engineer a second referendum now, not least for the sake of democratic credibility; but the vote was only advisory and I can well see the possibility of there being a second referendum in maybe two years time, endorsed by everyone except UKIP and the far right. The strength of purpose of Business and Neo Liberal philosophy will orchestrate to marginalise our friend Nigel and his putrid ilk.

How many successful foreign players have we signed,Manga perhaps but he cost 5m and if we don,t sell soon he will go on a free. I think we should stick to UK players especially if they are Welsh?

We will sign whoever tan wants to bring here from over seas, wont be the first time or last. " There you go paul here's your squad of players ive given you now win the league, if not face the music with the media"

Do not think it will make any difference from what it is now.

If we want a trade agreement with the EU then we have to agree to allow EU members to work here.

whyou would we they need us more than we n3ed them we don't have to agree to an6thingcwe are a bigger fish than norway or Swiss

ccfcsince62 has answered your reply for me, although I think that the majority of people who voted leave were under the same mistaken impression as you. Or at least I think it was a mistake.