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A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:39 am

I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!! :thumbup:

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:48 am

droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!! :thumbup:


Spot on :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:03 am

Forever Blue wrote:
droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!! :thumbup:


Spot on :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



Talk about poor losers And what reason is there for another referendum ahhh yes we lost 1st one let's have best of 3!!! :laughing6:

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:07 am

It won by 4% why do they need to do an other one that's not even close

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:10 am

droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!! :thumbup:

Exactly. And what difference do they expect? If you keep asking the same question you'll keep getting the same answer!

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:10 am

Laughable :lol:

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:16 am

Probably the EU wants another one and another one after that until they get right result! Didn't that happen in Ireland? :shock:

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:18 am

I think there is every chance Boris and Govey will attempt to use this vote as a ploy to negotiate more concessions from the EU. You could see that during their victory speech yesterday they were pretty meek and mild as though the full extent of what they've got on their hands was starting to dawn on them in the cold light of day.

When they start to factor in the loss of jobs, damage to the UK's influence in the world and the break up of the country (Scotland will soon be gone, and maybe NI too) I think you will see a slow slow pace to the Leave negotiations, if not a backtrack. Boris had already stated earlier in the campaign that he believed a Leave vote did not necessarily mean getting out, but gave more weight to the UK's renegotiations. He is no enthusiastic Leaver, just someone who is enthusiastic for Boris.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if we are faced with another referendum very soon; maybe within 18 months.

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:22 am

All this is due to the un-voting electorate. If the 52% remain was a representation of 100% ish of the electorate then we wouldn't have this sour grapes.

As it is only 37% of the electorate voted out, even less voted in. Get in voting as a legal requirement and we would not have this issue.

As it is the vote was out and that's that.

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:27 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!! :thumbup:


Spot on :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



Talk about poor losers And what reason is there for another referendum ahhh yes we lost 1st one let's have best of 3!!! :laughing6:


The only winners will be the big business and those already in power that got behind the leave campaign through Murdoch's propaganda machine, as for the rest of us there will only be losers. The hopes and aspirations of a generation have been wiped out overnight.

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:30 am

Bluebird For Life wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!! :thumbup:


Spot on :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



Talk about poor losers And what reason is there for another referendum ahhh yes we lost 1st one let's have best of 3!!! :laughing6:


The only winners will be the big business and those already in power that got behind the leave campaign through Murdoch's propaganda machine, as for the rest of us there will only be losers. The hopes and aspirations of a generation have been wiped out overnight.



Murdochs propaganda? Ffs camaron use full weight of gvmnt departments and still lost! Bit dramatic last paragraph :old:

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:39 am

The new maxim of the REMAIN voters (seen elsewhere):

"I believe in democracy...until I don't get my own way and then I throw tantrums all over Facebook!"

Nicola Sturgeon take note, too! ;)

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:39 am

City Slicker wrote:I think there is every chance Boris and Govey will attempt to use this vote as a ploy to negotiate more concessions from the EU. You could see that during their victory speech yesterday they were pretty meek and mild as though the full extent of what they've got on their hands was starting to dawn on them in the cold light of day.

When they start to factor in the loss of jobs, damage to the UK's influence in the world and the break up of the country (Scotland will soon be gone, and maybe NI too) I think you will see a slow slow pace to the Leave negotiations, if not a backtrack. Boris had already stated earlier in the campaign that he believed a Leave vote did not necessarily mean getting out, but gave more weight to the UK's renegotiations. He is no enthusiastic Leaver, just someone who is enthusiastic for Boris.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if we are faced with another referendum very soon; maybe within 18 months.


I hope more country's leave the EU, and we all have trade agreements as was before. We have left a failing project, where many country's in it are very split on the EU, huge unemployment and debt,migrant crisis,bailouts, they need the UK, more than we need them, people who voted leave did not vote to damage the UK, longer term we are better off out, short term won't be easy market wise! but we will all be fine, yes a few jobs will go. But more will come, and jobs go weather in the EU or not, believe me many EU country's are trying to hold there own country's together right now, as there people call to have a vote to leave the EU. :thumbup:

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:47 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Bluebird For Life wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!! :thumbup:


Spot on :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



Talk about poor losers And what reason is there for another referendum ahhh yes we lost 1st one let's have best of 3!!! :laughing6:


The only winners will be the big business and those already in power that got behind the leave campaign through Murdoch's propaganda machine, as for the rest of us there will only be losers. The hopes and aspirations of a generation have been wiped out overnight.



Murdochs propaganda? Ffs camaron use full weight of gvmnt departments and still lost! Bit dramatic last paragraph :old:


wait and see...

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:54 pm

droyal wrote:
City Slicker wrote:I think there is every chance Boris and Govey will attempt to use this vote as a ploy to negotiate more concessions from the EU. You could see that during their victory speech yesterday they were pretty meek and mild as though the full extent of what they've got on their hands was starting to dawn on them in the cold light of day.

When they start to factor in the loss of jobs, damage to the UK's influence in the world and the break up of the country (Scotland will soon be gone, and maybe NI too) I think you will see a slow slow pace to the Leave negotiations, if not a backtrack. Boris had already stated earlier in the campaign that he believed a Leave vote did not necessarily mean getting out, but gave more weight to the UK's renegotiations. He is no enthusiastic Leaver, just someone who is enthusiastic for Boris.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if we are faced with another referendum very soon; maybe within 18 months.


I hope more country's leave the EU, and we all have trade agreements as was before. We have left a failing project, where many country's in it are very split on the EU, huge unemployment and debt,migrant crisis,bailouts, they need the UK, more than we need them, people who voted leave did not vote to damage the UK, longer term we are better off out, short term won't be easy market wise! but we will all be fine, yes a few jobs will go. But more will come, and jobs go weather in the EU or not, believe me many EU country's are trying to hold there own country's together right now, as there people call to have a vote to leave the EU. :thumbup:


Well now that were out a further break-up of the EU would suit us and it was worth noting that that French facist La Penn looked like she'd sat on a vibrator when asked about the British exit.It may well be the time that extreme right wing politics flexes their muscles once again.

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:58 pm

I think the head of states but mainly Germany will really show the EU who are THE REAL BOSSES!!

The EU is different from the leaders of the main states who regularly have to win elections, from today they start exerting their authority. The very sensible and powerful German manufacturing unions have already told the German finance ministers to get over there (UK) and sort this out, this will happen because the Germans are the only power.

Contrary to what Jean Clade Junker says I believe this will be a quick amicable deal which we may need to have another referendum to ratify it. I can see access to the single market, no Shengen or freedom of movement but a fast track to UK citizenship for those living here for x amount of years, visa free travel and study......

We'll see, the gloom and doom talk of recession and depression is in the hands of the German government, not the EU. I do trust the Germans to do the right thing.

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:13 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I think the head of states but mainly Germany will really show the EU who are THE REAL BOSSES!!

The EU is different from the leaders of the main states who regularly have to win elections, from today they start exerting their authority. The very sensible and powerful German manufacturing unions have already told the German finance ministers to get over there (UK) and sort this out, this will happen because the Germans are the only power.

Contrary to what Jean Clade Junker says I believe this will be a quick amicable deal which we may need to have another referendum to ratify it. I can see access to the single market, no Shengen or freedom of movement but a fast track to UK citizenship for those living here for x amount of years, visa free travel and study......

We'll see, the gloom and doom talk of recession and depression is in the hands of the German government, not the EU. I do trust the Germans to do the right thing.


visa free travel will defeat the reason for many who voted for the leave campaign mate, not sure how they could manage the movement of the dreaded immigrants if that becomes the case...

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:32 pm

Murdochs propaganda? Ffs camaron use full weight of gvmnt departments and still lost! Bit dramatic last paragraph :old:[/quote]

The Times was pro remain :D but it's all Murdochs fault.

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:48 pm

Absolutely no chance of another referendum. For good or for bad, for right reasons or wrong, the people have decided.End of.

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:57 pm

Cameron was right and it'll remain right.
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Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:15 pm

Jock wrote:Murdochs propaganda? Ffs camaron use full weight of gvmnt departments and still lost! Bit dramatic last paragraph :old:


The Times was pro remain :D but it's all Murdochs fault.[/quote]

and the sun, the express , the telegraph please?

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:23 pm

I voted to remain. im gutted we lost, and I think wales will be hit very hard now. a lot of welsh people I know who have moved abroad voted to leave, and they wont feel the impact it has on the poorest.

HOWEVER, there should be NO referendum again. the people have spoken, and now we all have to live with the choice, be it for the better or worse.

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:58 pm

Bluebird For Life wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I think the head of states but mainly Germany will really show the EU who are THE REAL BOSSES!!

The EU is different from the leaders of the main states who regularly have to win elections, from today they start exerting their authority. The very sensible and powerful German manufacturing unions have already told the German finance ministers to get over there (UK) and sort this out, this will happen because the Germans are the only power.

Contrary to what Jean Clade Junker says I believe this will be a quick amicable deal which we may need to have another referendum to ratify it. I can see access to the single market, no Shengen or freedom of movement but a fast track to UK citizenship for those living here for x amount of years, visa free travel and study......

We'll see, the gloom and doom talk of recession and depression is in the hands of the German government, not the EU. I do trust the Germans to do the right thing.


visa free travel will defeat the reason for many who voted for the leave campaign mate, not sure how they could manage the movement of the dreaded immigrants if that becomes the case...

Norway,Denmark and Sweden are not in the EU but can travel freely through Europe without a Visa as they are part of Europe see no reason why Britain wont have a similar agreement

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:03 pm

darran1927 wrote:
Bluebird For Life wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I think the head of states but mainly Germany will really show the EU who are THE REAL BOSSES!!

The EU is different from the leaders of the main states who regularly have to win elections, from today they start exerting their authority. The very sensible and powerful German manufacturing unions have already told the German finance ministers to get over there (UK) and sort this out, this will happen because the Germans are the only power.

Contrary to what Jean Clade Junker says I believe this will be a quick amicable deal which we may need to have another referendum to ratify it. I can see access to the single market, no Shengen or freedom of movement but a fast track to UK citizenship for those living here for x amount of years, visa free travel and study......

We'll see, the gloom and doom talk of recession and depression is in the hands of the German government, not the EU. I do trust the Germans to do the right thing.


visa free travel will defeat the reason for many who voted for the leave campaign mate, not sure how they could manage the movement of the dreaded immigrants if that becomes the case...

Norway,Denmark and Sweden are not in the EU but can travel freely through Europe without a Visa as they are part of Europe see no reason why Britain wont have a similar agreement

They also benefit from same medical treatment we get with EHIC , again they are not in EU , they get this because the countries they travel into want their own countries residents to have the same medical care if they were to travel to Norway,Denmark etc. Again see no reason why it wont be similar for UK

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:03 pm

Bluebird For Life wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!! :thumbup:


Spot on :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:



Talk about poor losers And what reason is there for another referendum ahhh yes we lost 1st one let's have best of 3!!! :laughing6:


The only winners will be the big business and those already in power that got behind the leave campaign through Murdoch's propaganda machine, as for the rest of us there will only be losers. The hopes and aspirations of a generation have been wiped out overnight.

Funny as I was under impression all the big businesses wanted to stay in.....we are out...end of

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:34 pm

darran1927 wrote:
Bluebird For Life wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I think the head of states but mainly Germany will really show the EU who are THE REAL BOSSES!!

The EU is different from the leaders of the main states who regularly have to win elections, from today they start exerting their authority. The very sensible and powerful German manufacturing unions have already told the German finance ministers to get over there (UK) and sort this out, this will happen because the Germans are the only power.

Contrary to what Jean Clade Junker says I believe this will be a quick amicable deal which we may need to have another referendum to ratify it. I can see access to the single market, no Shengen or freedom of movement but a fast track to UK citizenship for those living here for x amount of years, visa free travel and study......

We'll see, the gloom and doom talk of recession and depression is in the hands of the German government, not the EU. I do trust the Germans to do the right thing.


visa free travel will defeat the reason for many who voted for the leave campaign mate, not sure how they could manage the movement of the dreaded immigrants if that becomes the case...

Norway,Denmark and Sweden are not in the EU but can travel freely through Europe without a Visa as they are part of Europe see no reason why Britain wont have a similar agreement

SWITZERLAND even god knows why I put Denmark/Sweden there

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:34 pm

Bluebird For Life wrote:
Jock wrote:Murdochs propaganda? Ffs camaron use full weight of gvmnt departments and still lost! Bit dramatic last paragraph :old:


The Times was pro remain :D but it's all Murdochs fault.


and the sun, the express , the telegraph please?[/quote]


You blamed murdoch for propaganda winning it for out campaign, but camaron used full weight of gvmnt in his propaganda Which to me us worse as he lost! And your last two sentences poor youngsters well sorry time will tell if bad decision or not, :roll:

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:35 pm

darran1927 wrote:
darran1927 wrote:
Bluebird For Life wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I think the head of states but mainly Germany will really show the EU who are THE REAL BOSSES!!

The EU is different from the leaders of the main states who regularly have to win elections, from today they start exerting their authority. The very sensible and powerful German manufacturing unions have already told the German finance ministers to get over there (UK) and sort this out, this will happen because the Germans are the only power.

Contrary to what Jean Clade Junker says I believe this will be a quick amicable deal which we may need to have another referendum to ratify it. I can see access to the single market, no Shengen or freedom of movement but a fast track to UK citizenship for those living here for x amount of years, visa free travel and study......

We'll see, the gloom and doom talk of recession and depression is in the hands of the German government, not the EU. I do trust the Germans to do the right thing.


visa free travel will defeat the reason for many who voted for the leave campaign mate, not sure how they could manage the movement of the dreaded immigrants if that becomes the case...

Norway,Denmark and Sweden are not in the EU but can travel freely through Europe without a Visa as they are part of Europe see no reason why Britain wont have a similar agreement

They also benefit from same medical treatment we get with EHIC , again they are not in EU , they get this because the countries they travel into want their own countries residents to have the same medical care if they were to travel to Norway,SWITZERLAND Again see no reason why it wont be similar for UK

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:38 pm

darran1927 wrote:
Bluebird For Life wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:I think the head of states but mainly Germany will really show the EU who are THE REAL BOSSES!!

The EU is different from the leaders of the main states who regularly have to win elections, from today they start exerting their authority. The very sensible and powerful German manufacturing unions have already told the German finance ministers to get over there (UK) and sort this out, this will happen because the Germans are the only power.

Contrary to what Jean Clade Junker says I believe this will be a quick amicable deal which we may need to have another referendum to ratify it. I can see access to the single market, no Shengen or freedom of movement but a fast track to UK citizenship for those living here for x amount of years, visa free travel and study......

We'll see, the gloom and doom talk of recession and depression is in the hands of the German government, not the EU. I do trust the Germans to do the right thing.


visa free travel will defeat the reason for many who voted for the leave campaign mate, not sure how they could manage the movement of the dreaded immigrants if that becomes the case...

Norway,Denmark and Sweden are not in the EU but can travel freely through Europe without a Visa as they are part of Europe see no reason why Britain wont have a similar agreement


Erm - try again mate - Sweden and Denmark are in the EU :shock: :shock: :shock:

Re: A Petition for a 2nd Referendum hits 1 million

Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:39 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Bluebird For Life wrote:
Jock wrote:Murdochs propaganda? Ffs camaron use full weight of gvmnt departments and still lost! Bit dramatic last paragraph :old:


The Times was pro remain :D but it's all Murdochs fault.


and the sun, the express , the telegraph please?



You blamed murdoch for propaganda winning it for out campaign, but camaron used full weight of gvmnt in his propaganda Which to me us worse as he lost! And your last two sentences poor youngsters well sorry time will tell if bad decision or not, :roll:[/quote]

Which is exactly what I said - we'll see...