Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:39 am
Sat Jun 25, 2016 10:48 am
droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!!
Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:03 am
Forever Blue wrote:droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!!
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Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:07 am
Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:10 am
droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!!
Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:10 am
Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:16 am
Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:18 am
Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:22 am
Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:27 am
pembroke allan wrote:Forever Blue wrote:droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!!
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Talk about poor losers And what reason is there for another referendum ahhh yes we lost 1st one let's have best of 3!!!
Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:30 am
Bluebird For Life wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Forever Blue wrote:droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!!
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Talk about poor losers And what reason is there for another referendum ahhh yes we lost 1st one let's have best of 3!!!
The only winners will be the big business and those already in power that got behind the leave campaign through Murdoch's propaganda machine, as for the rest of us there will only be losers. The hopes and aspirations of a generation have been wiped out overnight.
Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:39 am
Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:39 am
City Slicker wrote:I think there is every chance Boris and Govey will attempt to use this vote as a ploy to negotiate more concessions from the EU. You could see that during their victory speech yesterday they were pretty meek and mild as though the full extent of what they've got on their hands was starting to dawn on them in the cold light of day.
When they start to factor in the loss of jobs, damage to the UK's influence in the world and the break up of the country (Scotland will soon be gone, and maybe NI too) I think you will see a slow slow pace to the Leave negotiations, if not a backtrack. Boris had already stated earlier in the campaign that he believed a Leave vote did not necessarily mean getting out, but gave more weight to the UK's renegotiations. He is no enthusiastic Leaver, just someone who is enthusiastic for Boris.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if we are faced with another referendum very soon; maybe within 18 months.
Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:47 am
pembroke allan wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Forever Blue wrote:droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!!
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Talk about poor losers And what reason is there for another referendum ahhh yes we lost 1st one let's have best of 3!!!
The only winners will be the big business and those already in power that got behind the leave campaign through Murdoch's propaganda machine, as for the rest of us there will only be losers. The hopes and aspirations of a generation have been wiped out overnight.
Murdochs propaganda? Ffs camaron use full weight of gvmnt departments and still lost! Bit dramatic last paragraph
Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:54 pm
droyal wrote:City Slicker wrote:I think there is every chance Boris and Govey will attempt to use this vote as a ploy to negotiate more concessions from the EU. You could see that during their victory speech yesterday they were pretty meek and mild as though the full extent of what they've got on their hands was starting to dawn on them in the cold light of day.
When they start to factor in the loss of jobs, damage to the UK's influence in the world and the break up of the country (Scotland will soon be gone, and maybe NI too) I think you will see a slow slow pace to the Leave negotiations, if not a backtrack. Boris had already stated earlier in the campaign that he believed a Leave vote did not necessarily mean getting out, but gave more weight to the UK's renegotiations. He is no enthusiastic Leaver, just someone who is enthusiastic for Boris.
I wouldn't be at all surprised if we are faced with another referendum very soon; maybe within 18 months.
I hope more country's leave the EU, and we all have trade agreements as was before. We have left a failing project, where many country's in it are very split on the EU, huge unemployment and debt,migrant crisis,bailouts, they need the UK, more than we need them, people who voted leave did not vote to damage the UK, longer term we are better off out, short term won't be easy market wise! but we will all be fine, yes a few jobs will go. But more will come, and jobs go weather in the EU or not, believe me many EU country's are trying to hold there own country's together right now, as there people call to have a vote to leave the EU.
Sat Jun 25, 2016 12:58 pm
Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:13 pm
llan bluebird wrote:I think the head of states but mainly Germany will really show the EU who are THE REAL BOSSES!!
The EU is different from the leaders of the main states who regularly have to win elections, from today they start exerting their authority. The very sensible and powerful German manufacturing unions have already told the German finance ministers to get over there (UK) and sort this out, this will happen because the Germans are the only power.
Contrary to what Jean Clade Junker says I believe this will be a quick amicable deal which we may need to have another referendum to ratify it. I can see access to the single market, no Shengen or freedom of movement but a fast track to UK citizenship for those living here for x amount of years, visa free travel and study......
We'll see, the gloom and doom talk of recession and depression is in the hands of the German government, not the EU. I do trust the Germans to do the right thing.
Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:32 pm
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Sat Jun 25, 2016 1:57 pm
Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:15 pm
Jock wrote:Murdochs propaganda? Ffs camaron use full weight of gvmnt departments and still lost! Bit dramatic last paragraph
Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:23 pm
Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:58 pm
Bluebird For Life wrote:llan bluebird wrote:I think the head of states but mainly Germany will really show the EU who are THE REAL BOSSES!!
The EU is different from the leaders of the main states who regularly have to win elections, from today they start exerting their authority. The very sensible and powerful German manufacturing unions have already told the German finance ministers to get over there (UK) and sort this out, this will happen because the Germans are the only power.
Contrary to what Jean Clade Junker says I believe this will be a quick amicable deal which we may need to have another referendum to ratify it. I can see access to the single market, no Shengen or freedom of movement but a fast track to UK citizenship for those living here for x amount of years, visa free travel and study......
We'll see, the gloom and doom talk of recession and depression is in the hands of the German government, not the EU. I do trust the Germans to do the right thing.
visa free travel will defeat the reason for many who voted for the leave campaign mate, not sure how they could manage the movement of the dreaded immigrants if that becomes the case...
Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:03 pm
darran1927 wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:llan bluebird wrote:I think the head of states but mainly Germany will really show the EU who are THE REAL BOSSES!!
The EU is different from the leaders of the main states who regularly have to win elections, from today they start exerting their authority. The very sensible and powerful German manufacturing unions have already told the German finance ministers to get over there (UK) and sort this out, this will happen because the Germans are the only power.
Contrary to what Jean Clade Junker says I believe this will be a quick amicable deal which we may need to have another referendum to ratify it. I can see access to the single market, no Shengen or freedom of movement but a fast track to UK citizenship for those living here for x amount of years, visa free travel and study......
We'll see, the gloom and doom talk of recession and depression is in the hands of the German government, not the EU. I do trust the Germans to do the right thing.
visa free travel will defeat the reason for many who voted for the leave campaign mate, not sure how they could manage the movement of the dreaded immigrants if that becomes the case...
Norway,Denmark and Sweden are not in the EU but can travel freely through Europe without a Visa as they are part of Europe see no reason why Britain wont have a similar agreement
Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:03 pm
Bluebird For Life wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Forever Blue wrote:droyal wrote:I bet it will hit 16,141,241 votes... FFS they lost, people should get behind the UK now, and get over it!!
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Talk about poor losers And what reason is there for another referendum ahhh yes we lost 1st one let's have best of 3!!!
The only winners will be the big business and those already in power that got behind the leave campaign through Murdoch's propaganda machine, as for the rest of us there will only be losers. The hopes and aspirations of a generation have been wiped out overnight.
Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:34 pm
darran1927 wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:llan bluebird wrote:I think the head of states but mainly Germany will really show the EU who are THE REAL BOSSES!!
The EU is different from the leaders of the main states who regularly have to win elections, from today they start exerting their authority. The very sensible and powerful German manufacturing unions have already told the German finance ministers to get over there (UK) and sort this out, this will happen because the Germans are the only power.
Contrary to what Jean Clade Junker says I believe this will be a quick amicable deal which we may need to have another referendum to ratify it. I can see access to the single market, no Shengen or freedom of movement but a fast track to UK citizenship for those living here for x amount of years, visa free travel and study......
We'll see, the gloom and doom talk of recession and depression is in the hands of the German government, not the EU. I do trust the Germans to do the right thing.
visa free travel will defeat the reason for many who voted for the leave campaign mate, not sure how they could manage the movement of the dreaded immigrants if that becomes the case...
Norway,Denmark and Sweden are not in the EU but can travel freely through Europe without a Visa as they are part of Europe see no reason why Britain wont have a similar agreement
Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:34 pm
Bluebird For Life wrote:Jock wrote:Murdochs propaganda? Ffs camaron use full weight of gvmnt departments and still lost! Bit dramatic last paragraph
The Times was pro remainbut it's all Murdochs fault.
Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:35 pm
darran1927 wrote:darran1927 wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:llan bluebird wrote:I think the head of states but mainly Germany will really show the EU who are THE REAL BOSSES!!
The EU is different from the leaders of the main states who regularly have to win elections, from today they start exerting their authority. The very sensible and powerful German manufacturing unions have already told the German finance ministers to get over there (UK) and sort this out, this will happen because the Germans are the only power.
Contrary to what Jean Clade Junker says I believe this will be a quick amicable deal which we may need to have another referendum to ratify it. I can see access to the single market, no Shengen or freedom of movement but a fast track to UK citizenship for those living here for x amount of years, visa free travel and study......
We'll see, the gloom and doom talk of recession and depression is in the hands of the German government, not the EU. I do trust the Germans to do the right thing.
visa free travel will defeat the reason for many who voted for the leave campaign mate, not sure how they could manage the movement of the dreaded immigrants if that becomes the case...
Norway,Denmark and Sweden are not in the EU but can travel freely through Europe without a Visa as they are part of Europe see no reason why Britain wont have a similar agreement
They also benefit from same medical treatment we get with EHIC , again they are not in EU , they get this because the countries they travel into want their own countries residents to have the same medical care if they were to travel to Norway,SWITZERLAND Again see no reason why it wont be similar for UK
Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:38 pm
darran1927 wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:llan bluebird wrote:I think the head of states but mainly Germany will really show the EU who are THE REAL BOSSES!!
The EU is different from the leaders of the main states who regularly have to win elections, from today they start exerting their authority. The very sensible and powerful German manufacturing unions have already told the German finance ministers to get over there (UK) and sort this out, this will happen because the Germans are the only power.
Contrary to what Jean Clade Junker says I believe this will be a quick amicable deal which we may need to have another referendum to ratify it. I can see access to the single market, no Shengen or freedom of movement but a fast track to UK citizenship for those living here for x amount of years, visa free travel and study......
We'll see, the gloom and doom talk of recession and depression is in the hands of the German government, not the EU. I do trust the Germans to do the right thing.
visa free travel will defeat the reason for many who voted for the leave campaign mate, not sure how they could manage the movement of the dreaded immigrants if that becomes the case...
Norway,Denmark and Sweden are not in the EU but can travel freely through Europe without a Visa as they are part of Europe see no reason why Britain wont have a similar agreement
Sat Jun 25, 2016 3:39 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Bluebird For Life wrote:Jock wrote:Murdochs propaganda? Ffs camaron use full weight of gvmnt departments and still lost! Bit dramatic last paragraph
The Times was pro remainbut it's all Murdochs fault.
and the sun, the express , the telegraph please?