Broken promises already

Good old Nigel,get your excuses in first.Methinks there will be alot of this in the coming weeks and months.Recons it was a mistake but kept his mouth shut anyway.I think the word your looking for Nigel is LIE.


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They also said the £ and financial markets wouldn't crash ........................ anyone seen the exchange rates and/or FT Index overnight

He never made that promise and the markets have risen from the lows

Just goes to prove how easily disillusioned the far right are. Also the very idea that ukip supporters believe farage speaks the truth is so laughable.

Farage got caught lying and that is hilarious. He's gonna do more damage than you think. Here's to you ukip supporters may you be fooled by his promises and hilarious tricks!

He never made that promise and the markets have risen from the lows

Brexit did make that claim very strongly particularly on the £. Admittedly it is early days and nearer the actual exit would be a fairer appraisal but the OP was talking about broken promises, of which we already have a couple within hours of the result.

One other point that is slightly off topic, Farage claims that this is a victory for the decent people of the UK. Does that make 48% of the electorate not decent (let alone indecent !!)

[quote="Sneggyblubird"]Good old Nigel,get your excuses in first.Methinks there will be alot of this in the coming weeks and months.Recons it was a mistake but kept his mouth shut anyway.I think the word your looking for Nigel is LIE.

Should we really be surprised at the hypocrisy of a man who drew his and his wife's income from being employed by the EU. No doubt, he was happy to accept the benefits of the pension and allowances too. Yet Neil Kinnock takes a job there and welsh, yes welsh, people accuse him of being on the gravy train

They also said the £ and financial markets wouldn't crash ........................ anyone seen the exchange rates and/or FT Index overnight

I think we all knew share prices and exchange rates would suffer in the short term, they always do during periods of uncertainty. The referendum is not about short term gains or losses, no point in jumping to conclusions just hours after the result. This is about our long term future.

They also said the £ and financial markets wouldn't crash ........................ anyone seen the exchange rates and/or FT Index overnight

I think we all knew share prices and exchange rates would suffer in the short term, they always do during periods of uncertainty. The referendum is not about short term gains or losses, no point in jumping to conclusions just hours after the result. This is about our long term future.

Agreed on that. Just not happy that "lovable, man of the people" Farage is being painted as more honest/trustworthy than anyone else.

The next couple of years are certainly going to be interesting !!

Has WW 3 been declared yet ?

Was always going to happen. I reckon a fair few are regretting their leave vote this morning...

Let's see what happens , The majority won so that's that. No point crying over it.

Was always going to happen. I reckon a fair few are regretting their leave vote this morning...

you say that like life in the Eu was guaranteed better

Was always going to happen. I reckon a fair few are regretting their leave vote this morning...

you say that like life in the Eu was guaranteed better

Not better than it was but certainly better than it's now going to get

And you were all dull enough to vote for it. The uneducated vote won this for the leave campaign. You all just tanked the country.

And you were all dull enough to vote for it. The uneducated vote won this for the leave campaign. You all just tanked the country.

There we are then

And you were all dull enough to vote for it. The uneducated vote won this for the leave campaign. You all just tanked the country.

So 52% of country are uneducated?

Well, uneducated on the subject matter.

Well, uneducated on the subject matter.

Thats Very ingenious of to you think majority of people were uneducated on subject ! Just because you voted opposite

It will be interesting to see if immigration slows down significantly after we are out. Will also be interesting to see what happens with workers rights and human rights and whether or not Wales will get the European money that it will lose replaced by Westminster.

The leave voters remind me of the ones who voted to change us to red. They'd sooner believe some fancy slogans and misrepresentation that do their own research. I bet they are the same people too.

It will be interesting to see if immigration slows down significantly after we are out. Will also be interesting to see what happens with workers rights and human rights and whether or not Wales will get the European money that it will lose replaced by Westminster.

Westminster loathes to give Wales money at the best of times. There is no chance at all that we will get even half what we got from the EU. To think that 52% of Wales voted us out as well is absolutely baffling!

The leave voters remind me of the ones who voted to change us to red. They'd sooner believe some fancy slogans and misrepresentation that do their own research. I bet they are the same people too.

It will be interesting to see if immigration slows down significantly after we are out. Will also be interesting to see what happens with workers rights and human rights and whether or not Wales will get the European money that it will lose replaced by Westminster.

Westminster loathes to give Wales money at the best of times. There is no chance at all that we will get even half what we got from the EU. To think that 52% of Wales voted us out as well is absolutely baffling!

You do realise with the 355 million given to the EU, it worked out as an average of for every £1 the EU "invested" in us, we had already given them £2.20? The spare £1.20 leftover no doubt contributes to over 10,000 EU members being on a higher wage than our British Prime Minister and we don't even know who these people are, none of us voted these people in.

I believe our economy will be much better off in the future, being able to freely trade with America, China, India and the rest of the biggest trading countries out there that the EU is not currently apart of. We are finally free from the restricted EU and can now freely trade across the world. This will create more income and more opportunities.

Since we have entered the EU, every economy has doubled in size, apart from the EU and Antartica. We were getting left behind trapped in the EU and we now have the freedom and democratic right to govern our own country to prosperity! I optimistically look at today as an exciting new chapter for our futures!

The leave voters remind me of the ones who voted to change us to red. They'd sooner believe some fancy slogans and misrepresentation that do their own research. I bet they are the same people too.

It will be interesting to see if immigration slows down significantly after we are out. Will also be interesting to see what happens with workers rights and human rights and whether or not Wales will get the European money that it will lose replaced by Westminster.

Westminster loathes to give Wales money at the best of times. There is no chance at all that we will get even half what we got from the EU. To think that 52% of Wales voted us out as well is absolutely baffling!

I agree !

I wasn't surprised that England voted out, I might well have done too if I lived in England because I believe that the English economy will be OK.

However I was amazed that places like Blaenau Gwent/RCT/North Wales think that Out will be better for Wales. Even the Brexit campaign accepted that Wales gets more out of the EU than it contributes so leaving the EU basically ensures that we will be tied to England and at their behest for subsidies for the forseeable future. Is everyone confident that a Westminster Tory government will be happy to subsidise to the same level as the EU ?

Interesting that the city with the biggest numbers of "immigrants" (still less than 8%), Cardiff, voted overwhelmingly to Remain. Maybe because now they've met those "pesky foreigners" they realised they ain't so bad They probably also remember what Cardiff was like before the inward investment, a lot of it from the EU, that paved the way for the Bay redevelopment.

Scotland will almost certainly vote for independance at the next possible opportunity but for Wales I think we're too far from being self sustaining for us to even consider that for another 5-6 years so it's going to be a painful time for us !!

Good old Nigel,get your excuses in first.Methinks there will be alot of this in the coming weeks and months.Recons it was a mistake but kept his mouth shut anyway.I think the word your looking for Nigel is LIE.


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As Farage clearly states, it wouldn't have been his choice to make that statement. At least he's been honest and admitted the Leave campaign made a mistake promising that. It's ridiculous sour grapes from the remain voters to jump on Farage giving his honest opinion. The finger should be getting pointed at the chancellor, not Farage.

Good old Nigel,get your excuses in first.Methinks there will be alot of this in the coming weeks and months.Recons it was a mistake but kept his mouth shut anyway.I think the word your looking for Nigel is LIE.


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re the NHS, the statement was made by the leave campaign, which farage was not a part of. he never made such a claim.

about the poster in question, it states: 'we send the eu £350m a week - lets fund our NHS instead'. it does not state all the money will go on the NHS. this is a classic case of 'don't let the truth get in the way of a good story'. if they bothered to do their research they would know this.

we will save significant sums on the NHS on not having an open door for hundreds of thousands of EU workers who don't earn enough to cover what they get back in the form of NHS, schooling and the like.

Good old Nigel,get your excuses in first.Methinks there will be alot of this in the coming weeks and months.Recons it was a mistake but kept his mouth shut anyway.I think the word your looking for Nigel is LIE.


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re the NHS, the statement was made by the leave campaign, which farage was not a part of. he never made such a claim.

about the poster in question, it states: 'we send the eu £350m a week - lets fund our NHS instead'. it does not state all the money will go on the NHS. this is a classic case of 'don't let the truth get in the way of a good story'. if they bothered to do their research they would know this.

we will save significant sums on the NHS on not having an open door for hundreds of thousands of EU workers who don't earn enough to cover what they get back in the form of NHS, schooling and the like.

The trouble with that argument is that we won't have enough, indigenous people, qualified to staff the NHS at current levels let alone put more in. We can't attract enough to get qualified and we are massively dependant on EU and non-EU immigration to plug the gaps.

And please don't say that it will open opportunities for "British" people to get those jobs !! We can't attract them now and there are vacancies on nursing degree courses so why would coming out of the EU change that ? You could argue that we could use the £350m to pay them more and make it more attractive but that money won't go far given the numbers involved and leave nothing for all the other gaps in the money from the EU.

Good old Nigel,get your excuses in first.Methinks there will be alot of this in the coming weeks and months.Recons it was a mistake but kept his mouth shut anyway.I think the word your looking for Nigel is LIE.


https://amp.twimg.com/v/6ca5195b-a8a5-4 ... 440b9a25d6

re the NHS, the statement was made by the leave campaign, which farage was not a part of. he never made such a claim.

about the poster in question, it states: 'we send the eu £350m a week - lets fund our NHS instead'. it does not state all the money will go on the NHS. this is a classic case of 'don't let the truth get in the way of a good story'. if they bothered to do their research they would know this.

we will save significant sums on the NHS on not having an open door for hundreds of thousands of EU workers who don't earn enough to cover what they get back in the form of NHS, schooling and the like.

The average working wage for an EU immigrant is actually more than a so-called "British" person, thereby contributing more NI per person, so that's that argument put to bed !!

And you were all dull enough to vote for it. The uneducated vote won this for the leave campaign. You all just tanked the country.

I find a lot of the "Remain" quite bitter today , seen a petition already online from the Remain Camp for another referendum just because they didn't get the vote they wanted , don't think some people know how Democracy works .

Good old Nigel,get your excuses in first.Methinks there will be alot of this in the coming weeks and months.Recons it was a mistake but kept his mouth shut anyway.I think the word your looking for Nigel is LIE.


https://amp.twimg.com/v/6ca5195b-a8a5-4 ... 440b9a25d6

re the NHS, the statement was made by the leave campaign, which farage was not a part of. he never made such a claim.

about the poster in question, it states: 'we send the eu £350m a week - lets fund our NHS instead'. it does not state all the money will go on the NHS. this is a classic case of 'don't let the truth get in the way of a good story'. if they bothered to do their research they would know this.

we will save significant sums on the NHS on not having an open door for hundreds of thousands of EU workers who don't earn enough to cover what they get back in the form of NHS, schooling and the like.

The trouble with that argument is that we won't have enough, indigenous people, qualified to staff the NHS at current levels let alone put more in. We can't attract enough to get qualified and we are massively dependant on EU and non-EU immigration to plug the gaps.

And please don't say that it will open opportunities for "British" people to get those jobs !! We can't attract them now and there are vacancies on nursing degree courses so why would coming out of the EU change that ? You could argue that we could use the £350m to pay them more and make it more attractive but that money won't go far given the numbers involved and leave nothing for all the other gaps in the money from the EU.

there will still be immigration from europe after we leave the EU. only a fool would think otherwise. i would suggest the vast majority of out voters, recognise the huge benefits of skilled immigration. for many people, this was a vote to stop open door immigration.

skilled workers will still be welcome and with the continuing economic stagnation of most EU states, they will be queuing up to join.

why is the NHS overstretched? there are a number of reasons. one is the ageing population, there is not much we can do about that. another, whether or not you choose to ignore it, is hundreds of thousands of low skilled EU migrants who enjoy full access to such services but don't earn enough to contribute to its running. we simply cannot afford to keep going on like this. over 17m british citizens agree with that sentiment.

The leave voters remind me of the ones who voted to change us to red. They'd sooner believe some fancy slogans and misrepresentation that do their own research. I bet they are the same people too.

It will be interesting to see if immigration slows down significantly after we are out. Will also be interesting to see what happens with workers rights and human rights and whether or not Wales will get the European money that it will lose replaced by Westminster.

Westminster loathes to give Wales money at the best of times. There is no chance at all that we will get even half what we got from the EU. To think that 52% of Wales voted us out as well is absolutely baffling!

You do realise with the 355 million given to the EU, it worked out as an average of for every £1 the EU "invested" in us, we had already given them £2.20? The spare £1.20 leftover no doubt contributes to over 10,000 EU members being on a higher wage than our British Prime Minister and we don't even know who these people are, none of us voted these people in.

I believe our economy will be much better off in the future, being able to freely trade with America, China, India and the rest of the biggest trading countries out there that the EU is not currently apart of. We are finally free from the restricted EU and can now freely trade across the world. This will create more income and more opportunities.

Since we have entered the EU, every economy has doubled in size, apart from the EU and Antartica. We were getting left behind trapped in the EU and we now have the freedom and democratic right to govern our own country to prosperity! I optimistically look at today as an exciting new chapter for our futures!

Good old Nigel,get your excuses in first.Methinks there will be alot of this in the coming weeks and months.Recons it was a mistake but kept his mouth shut anyway.I think the word your looking for Nigel is LIE.


https://amp.twimg.com/v/6ca5195b-a8a5-4 ... 440b9a25d6

re the NHS, the statement was made by the leave campaign, which farage was not a part of. he never made such a claim.

about the poster in question, it states: 'we send the eu £350m a week - lets fund our NHS instead'. it does not state all the money will go on the NHS. this is a classic case of 'don't let the truth get in the way of a good story'. if they bothered to do their research they would know this.

we will save significant sums on the NHS on not having an open door for hundreds of thousands of EU workers who don't earn enough to cover what they get back in the form of NHS, schooling and the like.

The trouble with that argument is that we won't have enough, indigenous people, qualified to staff the NHS at current levels let alone put more in. We can't attract enough to get qualified and we are massively dependant on EU and non-EU immigration to plug the gaps.

And please don't say that it will open opportunities for "British" people to get those jobs !! We can't attract them now and there are vacancies on nursing degree courses so why would coming out of the EU change that ? You could argue that we could use the £350m to pay them more and make it more attractive but that money won't go far given the numbers involved and leave nothing for all the other gaps in the money from the EU.

there will still be immigration from europe after we leave the EU. only a fool would think otherwise. i would suggest the vast majority of out voters, recognise the huge benefits of skilled immigration. for many people, this was a vote to stop open door immigration.

skilled workers will still be welcome and with the continuing economic stagnation of most EU states, they will be queuing up to join.

why is the NHS overstretched? there are a number of reasons. one is the ageing population, there is not much we can do about that. another, whether or not you choose to ignore it, is hundreds of thousands of low skilled EU migrants who enjoy full access to such services but don't earn enough to contribute to its running. we simply cannot afford to keep going on like this. over 17m british citizens agree with that sentiment.

This what annoys me about the remain camp I've spoken to today , I've been called racist and uneducated for my Leave Vote . I knew when I voted out we didn't stop immagration just we have more control of our borders, so as you say above we would get skilled workers come through still just not an open door policy( Similar to Australias Model)