Mair a fascist

The killer of Labour MP Jo Cox gave his name in court as ' Death to traitors, freedom for Britain' and targeted her because she was active in the Remain campaign. This was a politically motivated murder by a white supremacist, radicalized by Britain First. Let's carry on the fight against fascism in memory of Jo and everything she did.

The killer of Labour MP Jo Cox gave his name in court as ' Death to traitors, freedom for Britain' and targeted her because she was active in the Remain campaign. This was a politically motivated murder by a white supremacist, radicalized by Britain First. Let's carry on the fight against fascism in memory of Jo and everything she did.

im not a Britain first supporter but how can you say his attack was fuelled by them?

The killer of Labour MP Jo Cox gave his name in court as ' Death to traitors, freedom for Britain' and targeted her because she was active in the Remain campaign. This was a politically motivated murder by a white supremacist, radicalized by Britain First. Let's carry on the fight against fascism in memory of Jo and everything she did.

im not a Britain first supporter but how can you say his attack was fuelled by them?

He can't, to be blunt!

But it won't stop him or others from associating this vile event with some group or another; and some of those (as with ISIS) will be happy to be guilty by association regardless of the truth!

In first view, this appears to have been a lone act of a disturbed individual who has convinced himself of his abhorrent motives and carried them out for reasons probably unknown even to him!

There is a fight to be had against radicalism (on all sides) and 'bluemun' has a point on that front. However, in traditional modern British style, most people simply watch and commentate 'without fact' on rather than do anything about it!

We now live in a "so long as it's not in my backyard" society and the lunatics are starting to take over the asylum as the majority do nothing but sit back, whinge and blame anyone but themselves for allowing this country to drift towards apathy!

The killer of Labour MP Jo Cox gave his name in court as ' Death to traitors, freedom for Britain' and targeted her because she was active in the Remain campaign. This was a politically motivated murder by a white supremacist, radicalized by Britain First. Let's carry on the fight against fascism in memory of Jo and everything she did.

im not a Britain first supporter but how can you say his attack was fuelled by them?

He can't, to be blunt!

But it won't stop him or others from associating this vile event with some group or another; and some of those (as with ISIS) will be happy to be guilty by association regardless of the truth!

In first view, this appears to have been a lone act of a disturbed individual who has convinced himself of his abhorrent motives and carried them out for reasons probably unknown even to him!

There is a fight to be had against radicalism (on all sides) and 'bluemun' has a point on that front. However, in traditional modern British style, most people simply watch and commentate 'without fact' on rather than do anything about it!

We now live in a "so long as it's not in my backyard" society and the lunatics are starting to take over the asylum as the majority do nothing but sit back, whinge and blame anyone but themselves for allowing this country to drift towards apathy!

agree Sven think it was more down to his life experiences and also mental problems as anyone sane wouldn't think of this atrocious act

The killer of Labour MP Jo Cox gave his name in court as ' Death to traitors, freedom for Britain' and targeted her because she was active in the Remain campaign. This was a politically motivated murder by a white supremacist, radicalized by Britain First. Let's carry on the fight against fascism in memory of Jo and everything she did.

im not a Britain first supporter but how can you say his attack was fuelled by them?

He can't, to be blunt!

But it won't stop him or others from associating this vile event with some group or another; and some of those (as with ISIS) will be happy to be guilty by association regardless of the truth!

In first view, this appears to have been a lone act of a disturbed individual who has convinced himself of his abhorrent motives and carried them out for reasons probably unknown even to him!

There is a fight to be had against radicalism (on all sides) and 'bluemun' has a point on that front. However, in traditional modern British style, most people simply watch and commentate 'without fact' on rather than do anything about it!

We now live in a "so long as it's not in my backyard" society and the lunatics are starting to take over the asylum as the majority do nothing but sit back, whinge and blame anyone but themselves for allowing this country to drift towards apathy!

agree Sven think it was more down to his life experiences and also mental problems as anyone sane wouldn't think of this atrocious act

Yep! Lone loony, allowed to wander the streets by the very people who knew he needed proper care and supervision...but didn't want to fund it!

If you wanna play the blame game then blame the Govm. cuts.While this is a terrible tragedy this sort of thing is happening on a regular basis up and down the country because the overworked NHS is failing people with mental health problems because of cutbacks and the fact that mental health has never had a fair crack of the whip when it comes to funding.No matter what this guy's politics are he is a well known fruit loop and I hope this is reflected in his punishment.

If you wanna play the blame game then blame the Govm. cuts.While this is a terrible tragedy this sort of thing is happening on a regular basis up and down the country because the overworked NHS is failing people with mental health problems because of cutbacks and the fact that mental health has never had a fair crack of the whip when it comes to funding.No matter what this guy's politics are he is a well known fruit loop and I hope this is reflected in his punishment.

but his neighbours didn't think he is a fruit loop - including a nurse of 40 years experience. For me, anyone who supports the same views as this fella is obviously a fruit loop, but that is just my personal opinion.

Racist scum, end of.

She got killed by a guy that was well known to have serious mental health problems and was a known loner. If he had killed a Joe Bloggs it would not of even made the news but because it happened to an MP everyone is loosing there heads.
If these MPs had been more active on mental health issues then these types of incidents would be far less.
But I know this is controversial but it's being used as a remain point saying the man acted because of his Brexit views and being so called radicalised and that is sick to use that as a tool for the referendum when clearly the guy was well known to be phycotic. By the sounds of it all the media and politicians are mouthing off about is tolerance and right wing extremism instead of mental health care that was the cause of this tragedy.
Dirty politics continuing in this country.

If you wanna play the blame game then blame the Govm. cuts.While this is a terrible tragedy this sort of thing is happening on a regular basis up and down the country because the overworked NHS is failing people with mental health problems because of cutbacks and the fact that mental health has never had a fair crack of the whip when it comes to funding.No matter what this guy's politics are he is a well known fruit loop and I hope this is reflected in his punishment.

but his neighbours didn't think he is a fruit loop - including a nurse of 40 years experience. For me, anyone who supports the same views as this fella is obviously a fruit loop, but that is just my personal opinion.

Racist scum, end of.

He's originally from Kilmarnock, they're all fruit loops

She got killed by a guy that was well known to have serious mental health problems and was a known loner. If he had killed a Joe Bloggs it would not of even made the news but because it happened to an MP everyone is loosing there heads.
If these MPs had been more active on mental health issues then these types of incidents would be far less.
But I know this is controversial but it's being used as a remain point saying the man acted because of his Brexit views and being so called radicalised and that is sick to use that as a tool for the referendum when clearly the guy was well known to be phycotic. By the sounds of it all the media and politicians are mouthing off about is tolerance and right wing extremism instead of mental health care that was the cause of this tragedy.
Dirty politics continuing in this country.

I agree

If you wanna play the blame game then blame the Govm. cuts.While this is a terrible tragedy this sort of thing is happening on a regular basis up and down the country because the overworked NHS is failing people with mental health problems because of cutbacks and the fact that mental health has never had a fair crack of the whip when it comes to funding.No matter what this guy's politics are he is a well known fruit loop and I hope this is reflected in his punishment.

but his neighbours didn't think he is a fruit loop - including a nurse of 40 years experience. For me, anyone who supports the same views as this fella is obviously a fruit loop, but that is just my personal opinion.

Racist scum, end of.

Thats the whole point Jimmy.Its a well known fact that budget constraints often influence the decision as to whether a mental patient is fit to live in the community or not.And there are many people that are not high profile who have lost their lives to people that shouldn't be allowed at large in the community.

In the ten years to 2013, 700 people have been killed as a result of care in the community (Study by Manchester University).

Very few headlines at all.

In the ten years to 2013, 700 people have been killed as a result of care in the community (Study by Manchester University).

Very few headlines at all.

Exactly Chief. If Jo was killed in the name of democracy and hatred then I could understand it. But it happened because successive Governments have ignored mental health for years. But at the moment mental health is not in there agenda

we have 1 witness who is reported to have said he heard the words 'Britain First' during the murder. Other witnesses to the murder have not. That version of events is a minority viewpoint the press have opted to go with.

we have 1 witness who is reported to have said he heard the words 'Britain First' during the murder. Other witnesses to the murder have not. That version of events is a minority viewpoint the press have opted to go with.

Keep up Tom,I can't remember the other phrase but when ask in court to confirm his name "Britian First" was one of his answers.

we have 1 witness who is reported to have said he heard the words 'Britain First' during the murder. Other witnesses to the murder have not. That version of events is a minority viewpoint the press have opted to go with.

Keep up Tom,I can't remember the other phrase but when ask in court to confirm his name "Britian First" was one of his answers.

what he said at court, it was 'death to traitors' and 'freedom to britain' it was witnessed by all and recorded. At the murder scene what was purported to have been said by the murderer is a minority view of the version of events.

The killer of Labour MP Jo Cox gave his name in court as ' Death to traitors, freedom for Britain' and targeted her because she was active in the Remain campaign. This was a politically motivated murder by a white supremacist, radicalized by Britain First. Let's carry on the fight against fascism in memory of Jo and everything she did.

im not a Britain first supporter but how can you say his attack was fuelled by them?

So it's okay to tarnish all Muslims by the actions of a few but not okay to tarnish wankers like Britain First for the actions of a few?

Extremist Muslims and groups like Britain first are just one and the same in my eyes and need removing from society.

The killer of Labour MP Jo Cox gave his name in court as ' Death to traitors, freedom for Britain' and targeted her because she was active in the Remain campaign. This was a politically motivated murder by a white supremacist, radicalized by Britain First. Let's carry on the fight against fascism in memory of Jo and everything she did.

im not a Britain first supporter but how can you say his attack was fuelled by them?

So it's okay to tarnish all Muslims by the actions of a few but not okay to tarnish wankers like Britain First for the actions of a few?

Extremist Muslims and groups like Britain first are just one and the same in my eyes and need removing from society.

i didnt say `all` though did i? I Wouldn't go that far by naming Britain first in the same category as extremists cause they're just pure filth simple as but i dont agree with Britain first just brainwashes people.

They had nothing to do with Britain First just wishful thoughts by some.

He was associated with far right lunatic racists though and loved the nazis. He probably loved Britain first and groups like them. I hate Islam and I am sick of successive governments pandering to them but I am educated enough to realise groups like Britain first are just a bunch of thick cunts waving union jacks about not having a clue about anything, they are part of the problem if anything.

Lifted this from an article (Nov 15) by Carla Power, an American Middle East correspondent.


Sheikh Mohammad Akram Nadwi, the Islamic scholar who taught me the Koran, once told me an old Indian joke. A Hindu goes to his Muslim neighbor and asks if he could borrow a copy of the Koran.

“Of course,”said the Muslim. “We’ve got plenty! Let me get you one from my library.”

A week later, the Hindu returns.

“Thanks so much,” he said. “Fascinating. But I wonder, could you give me a copy of the other Koran?”

“Um, you’re holding it,” said the Muslim.

“Yeah, I read this,” replied the Hindu. “But I need a copy of the Koran that’s followed by Muslims.”

“The joke is right,” said Akram. “All this talk about jihad and forming Islamic states, that’s not what the Koran says!”

He was associated with far right lunatic racists though and loved the nazis. He probably loved Britain first and groups like them. I hate Islam and I am sick of successive governments pandering to them but I am educated enough to realise groups like Britain first are just a bunch of thick cunts waving union jacks about not having a clue about anything, they are part of the problem if anything.

not according to his brother who has said he has never expressed any political views or racist tendencies. Nobody has come forward to testify anything (pre-murder) that can brand the murderer racist, all that points to far right tendencies is recorded data to books and subscriptions. His half-brother is mixed race.

He was associated with far right lunatic racists though and loved the nazis. He probably loved Britain first and groups like them. I hate Islam and I am sick of successive governments pandering to them but I am educated enough to realise groups like Britain first are just a bunch of thick cunts waving union jacks about not having a clue about anything, they are part of the problem if anything.

not according to his brother who has said he has never expressed any political views or racist tendencies. Nobody has come forward to testify anything (pre-murder) that can brand the murderer racist, all that points to far right tendencies is recorded data to books and subscriptions. His half-brother is mixed race.

So he does have far right tendencies because he subscribed to nazi and white supremacist magazines? He also had an obsession with Hitler and the nazis. He was obviously a disturbed man but I find it funny that Britain first feel tarnished with the same brush as this nutter when they have done the same with Muslims for years.

He was associated with far right lunatic racists though and loved the nazis. He probably loved Britain first and groups like them. I hate Islam and I am sick of successive governments pandering to them but I am educated enough to realise groups like Britain first are just a bunch of thick cunts waving union jacks about not having a clue about anything, they are part of the problem if anything.

not according to his brother who has said he has never expressed any political views or racist tendencies. Nobody has come forward to testify anything (pre-murder) that can brand the murderer racist, all that points to far right tendencies is recorded data to books and subscriptions. His half-brother is mixed race.

Try this:

Mair told police he was a “political activist” as he was arrested a mile from the scene, the prosecution said. Officers said the accused said “it’s me” when he was confronted; he was then tackled to the ground, handcuffed and searched. During the arrest, Mair also confirmed his name.

A written summary of the prosecution’s case revealed the findings of a search of the defendant’s house. Newspaper articles relating to Cox and ideological material relating to extreme rightwing and white-supremacist organisations and individuals were recovered from the property.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... l-activist

It has taken over a day, but now there seems to be a concerted spin from many Brexiters, the political right, and a lot on this board, to retell the story. No longer is it a political murder carried out by a man with mental health problems and a 30 year history of association with white supremacist and fascist organisations (in South Africa, the USA and UK). No now it was a random killing by someone let down by the mental health services that are underfunded because 'we' pay too much to the EU. I am prepared to believe that Mair was not a formal member of any organisation and that the panicked video from Britain First in the hours after the attack was genuine. But to imply that Jo Cox was not the victim of a politically motivated hate crime - even if the killer has had mental health problems - is scandalous.

He was associated with far right lunatic racists though and loved the nazis. He probably loved Britain first and groups like them. I hate Islam and I am sick of successive governments pandering to them but I am educated enough to realise groups like Britain first are just a bunch of thick cunts waving union jacks about not having a clue about anything, they are part of the problem if anything.

not according to his brother who has said he has never expressed any political views or racist tendencies. Nobody has come forward to testify anything (pre-murder) that can brand the murderer racist, all that points to far right tendencies is recorded data to books and subscriptions. His half-brother is mixed race.

So he does have far right tendencies because he subscribed to nazi and white supremacist magazines? He also had an obsession with Hitler and the nazis. He was obviously a disturbed man but I find it funny that Britain first feel tarnished with the same brush as this nutter when they have done the same with Muslims for years.

It's a question I don't know. To buy a book or make a subscription, all you need is somebodies or your own bank details/CC, D.O.B, name & address. Where has it been said he had the obsession with the Nazis? His friends and family have said he never showed any political leaning or racist tendancies

He was associated with far right lunatic racists though and loved the nazis. He probably loved Britain first and groups like them. I hate Islam and I am sick of successive governments pandering to them but I am educated enough to realise groups like Britain first are just a bunch of thick cunts waving union jacks about not having a clue about anything, they are part of the problem if anything.

not according to his brother who has said he has never expressed any political views or racist tendencies. Nobody has come forward to testify anything (pre-murder) that can brand the murderer racist, all that points to far right tendencies is recorded data to books and subscriptions. His half-brother is mixed race.

Try this:

Mair told police he was a “political activist” as he was arrested a mile from the scene, the prosecution said. Officers said the accused said “it’s me” when he was confronted; he was then tackled to the ground, handcuffed and searched. During the arrest, Mair also confirmed his name.

A written summary of the prosecution’s case revealed the findings of a search of the defendant’s house. Newspaper articles relating to Cox and ideological material relating to extreme rightwing and white-supremacist organisations and individuals were recovered from the property.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... l-activist

It has taken over a day, but now there seems to be a concerted spin from many Brexiters, the political right, and a lot on this board, to retell the story. No longer is it a political murder carried out by a man with mental health problems and a 30 year history of association with white supremacist and fascist organisations (in South Africa, the USA and UK). No now it was a random killing by someone let down by the mental health services that are underfunded because 'we' pay too much to the EU. I am prepared to believe that Mair was not a formal member of any organisation and that the panicked video from Britain First in the hours after the attack was genuine. But to imply that Jo Cox was not the victim of a politically motivated hate crime - even if the killer has had mental health problems - is scandalous.

Scandalous??

You just voiced your opinion and you've drawn your own conclusions from what you have read/heard and want to believe...in a similar fashion to the rest of us!

Quote: "Mair was not a formal member of any organisation", which indicates that he WAS acting alone. He also told the police and Court that his name was (quote) "My name is death to traitors, freedom for Britain", and no matter what he says his motivation was, he was certainly acting in a manner not befitting anyone of sound mind!

Was it politically motivated? I think that is an obvious conclusion to draw, but you should separate the fantasy of one man's war against himself to that of the abhorrent group with which some have been quick to associate him with!

RIP, Jo Cox, MP. You didn't deserve that, no matter what the motivation!