Tue May 17, 2016 8:36 am
Tue May 17, 2016 8:43 am
Tue May 17, 2016 8:51 am
Tue May 17, 2016 8:52 am
Tue May 17, 2016 8:54 am
ThomasC wrote:Does anybody seriously think a head coach not being able to pick his own assistant from within the club or from the outside is progressive?
Who wants to work under those conditions? Having all your staff personally chosen for you by Tan!
Tue May 17, 2016 8:59 am
Tue May 17, 2016 9:00 am
Mr Shed wrote:ThomasC wrote:Does anybody seriously think a head coach not being able to pick his own assistant from within the club or from the outside is progressive?
Who wants to work under those conditions? Having all your staff personally chosen for you by Tan!
Hiw do you know it wasn't trollopes request for Rowberry to be his assistant?
Tue May 17, 2016 9:37 am
ThomasC wrote:Unbelievable fans think this is the right approach to the coaching structure. I strongly believe that Tan shouldn't micro manage the coaching structure to this extent.
Tue May 17, 2016 9:43 am
oohahhPaulMillar wrote:ThomasC wrote:Unbelievable fans think this is the right approach to the coaching structure. I strongly believe that Tan shouldn't micro manage the coaching structure to this extent.
Not sure if Tan does micro manage anyone....if I was the owner of a company turning over £50 million p.a I think I would be speaking to my chairman, ceo and senior manager at least 4/5 times a week. This is probably what Tan does thats not micro managing especially when you consider he only visits the club 2/3 a year these days.
Trollope has probably worked with Rowberry quite closely how do we know that it wasn't Trollope who wants Rowberry as his assistant?
Tue May 17, 2016 9:44 am
Forever Blue wrote:James Rowberry Was spoken to and interviewed to see if he was interested in being assistant manager Not Manager like the media put out
Tue May 17, 2016 9:47 am
ThomasC wrote:Does anybody seriously think a head coach not being able to pick his own assistant from within the club or from the outside is progressive?
Who wants to work under those conditions? Having all your staff personally chosen for you by Tan!
Tue May 17, 2016 9:52 am
Reza wrote::)ThomasC wrote:Does anybody seriously think a head coach not being able to pick his own assistant from within the club or from the outside is progressive?
Who wants to work under those conditions? Having all your staff personally chosen for you by Tan!
which is why i think we probably will end up with trollope as nobody else will work under those restrictions
Tue May 17, 2016 9:52 am
ThomasC wrote:look at recent history. Tan micromanaged Slade's coaching set-up to very average results, Slade presumably had to beg Tan to bring in outside help as the coaching set-up personally micromanaged by Tan wasn't working.
Trollope was brought in, and one can consider that was Slade's choice. My point is why do we have to go through all this again? Just let the head coach manage his own coaching staff.
Tue May 17, 2016 9:52 am
ThomasC wrote:look at recent history. Tan micromanaged Slade's coaching set-up to very average resultsComplete guesswork on your part, Slade presumably had to beg Tan to bring in outside help as the coaching set-up personally micromanaged by Tan wasn't working.Another complete whopper,we improved after his appointment and you could easily argue that was to his credit.
Trollope was brought in, and one can consider that was Slade's choice.No it wasn't My point is why do we have to go through all this again? Just let the head coach manage his own coaching staff.
Tue May 17, 2016 9:53 am
ThomasC wrote:Reza wrote::)ThomasC wrote:Does anybody seriously think a head coach not being able to pick his own assistant from within the club or from the outside is progressive?
Who wants to work under those conditions? Having all your staff personally chosen for you by Tan!
which is why i think we probably will end up with trollope as nobody else will work under those restrictions
Very interesting that Assistant manager roles are being discussed before a Manager has been put in place. All points to Trollope being manager of CCFC and wish I put money on that a week ago
Tue May 17, 2016 10:01 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:ThomasC wrote:look at recent history. Tan micromanaged Slade's coaching set-up to very average results, Slade presumably had to beg Tan to bring in outside help as the coaching set-up personally micromanaged by Tan wasn't working.
Trollope was brought in, and one can consider that was Slade's choice. My point is why do we have to go through all this again? Just let the head coach manage his own coaching staff.
Quite right lets look at recent history. MM blew a fortune on duff transfers, OGS was totally clueless and would have completed a double relegation had he stayed. The result VT being over £130m out of pocket and has a football club in exactly in the same position it was before he spent a penny.
Personally in those circumstances I would want to micro manage my staff.
You could argue Slade was a bad appointment but also argue he almost completed his brief on a shoestring. Looking at it from VT's perspective he is doing what he feels is best. Objectively I can see his reasoning as very sound.
Tue May 17, 2016 10:02 am
Sneggyblubird wrote:ThomasC wrote:look at recent history. Tan micromanaged Slade's coaching set-up to very average resultsComplete guesswork on your part, Slade presumably had to beg Tan to bring in outside help as the coaching set-up personally micromanaged by Tan wasn't working.Another complete whopper,we improved after his appointment and you could easily argue that was to his credit.
Trollope was brought in, and one can consider that was Slade's choice.No it wasn't My point is why do we have to go through all this again? Just let the head coach manage his own coaching staff.
I've got no problem with you expressing your views however far fetched they are but makeing up bogus facts to support your opinions is something I can't ignore even though I probably should.
Tue May 17, 2016 10:14 am
ThomasC wrote:Does anybody seriously think a head coach not being able to pick his own assistant from within the club or from the outside is progressive?
Who wants to work under those conditions? Having all your staff personally chosen for you by Tan!
Tue May 17, 2016 10:18 am
troobloo3339 wrote:ThomasC wrote:Does anybody seriously think a head coach not being able to pick his own assistant from within the club or from the outside is progressive?
Who wants to work under those conditions? Having all your staff personally chosen for you by Tan!
So you know as a fact that Trollope hasn't asked for rowberry to be his assistant ,there for the club has interviewed him on those grounds
Tue May 17, 2016 10:36 am
Tue May 17, 2016 10:49 am
ThomasC wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:ThomasC wrote:Does anybody seriously think a head coach not being able to pick his own assistant from within the club or from the outside is progressive?
Who wants to work under those conditions? Having all your staff personally chosen for you by Tan!
So you know as a fact that Trollope hasn't asked for rowberry to be his assistant ,there for the club has interviewed him on those grounds
I've had that already, I said that I don't know any facts!
Do you know for a fact Trollope has asked for Rowberry to be his assistant then? You don't hence the speculation.
Tue May 17, 2016 11:22 am
troobloo3339 wrote:ThomasC wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:ThomasC wrote:Does anybody seriously think a head coach not being able to pick his own assistant from within the club or from the outside is progressive?
Who wants to work under those conditions? Having all your staff personally chosen for you by Tan!
So you know as a fact that Trollope hasn't asked for rowberry to be his assistant ,there for the club has interviewed him on those grounds
I've had that already, I said that I don't know any facts!
Do you know for a fact Trollope has asked for Rowberry to be his assistant then? You don't hence the speculation.
No I don't that's why I didn't say I did (don't make a bigger fool of yourself ) by having a go at me ffs
Tue May 17, 2016 11:35 am
ThomasC wrote:Does anybody seriously think a head coach not being able to pick his own assistant from within the club or from the outside is progressive?
Who wants to work under those conditions? Having all your staff personally chosen for you by Tan!
Tue May 17, 2016 12:22 pm
Tue May 17, 2016 2:57 pm
Jasonccfc wrote:My take on things is we shouldn't judge Trollope on his role with Slade because the final decisions regarding squad and tactics etc would Slade's who comes across as quite stubborn in his ways so i dont think he would have listened to much to Trollope.
I dont have any favourite choice on who i'd prefer as the next manager. Pearson would be good experience wise but i think a Trollope/Rowberry partnership could surprise a few people and also show more interest in the development and academy players
Tue May 17, 2016 3:38 pm
Tue May 17, 2016 7:13 pm
wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:Does anybody seriously think a head coach not being able to pick his own assistant from within the club or from the outside is progressive?
Who wants to work under those conditions? Having all your staff personally chosen for you by Tan!
You do the that all the big clubs in the world the manager doesn't pick all his own staff ?
Tue May 17, 2016 7:25 pm
pembroke allan wrote:wez1927 wrote:ThomasC wrote:Does anybody seriously think a head coach not being able to pick his own assistant from within the club or from the outside is progressive?
Who wants to work under those conditions? Having all your staff personally chosen for you by Tan!
You do the that all the big clubs in the world the manager doesn't pick all his own staff ?
Man City, Swansea, man u their managers did not choose their number 2s they were already in place when they came!