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' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 12:51 pm

A few points WalesOnline would like to make in response to this morning's statement from Cardiff City chief executive Ken Choo

Monday 9th May 2016

1. Our reporter Steve Tucker attended the Cardiff City Supporters’ Club end of season awards dinner on May 7 in a professional capacity after being given permission to cover the event

2. He approached Ken Choo for a brief interview as part of WalesOnline’s live coverage of the event. Mr Choo sat next to Steve and dictated answers to a few questions that were published onto a live blog as he was speaking. A story was then written from the quotes which had been published

3. Steve’s opening question to Mr Choo was as follows: “Was it a difficult decision to move Russell Slade upstairs?”

4. Mr Choo’s response was: “It was not a difficult decision to move Russell to the Head of Football role. Our position has always been clear, that whoever is manager or head coach should at a minimum take us to the play-offs. This squad cost £28 million to assemble. Vincent’s position is clear, any lower than the play-offs is a failure. He is not putting £30 million a year into the business to not succeed, any businessman would want to take this team into the Premier League.”


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Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 1:07 pm

that question must have been asked whilst vince was using the loo lol

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 1:07 pm

Ian,So really summoning it up, they stand by Steve Tuckers Statement that Ken Choo said that Russell Slade failed.

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 1:30 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:A few points WalesOnline would like to make in response to this morning's statement from Cardiff City chief executive Ken Choo

Monday 9th May 2016

1. Our reporter Steve Tucker attended the Cardiff City Supporters’ Club end of season awards dinner on May 7 in a professional capacity after being given permission to cover the event

2. He approached Ken Choo for a brief interview as part of WalesOnline’s live coverage of the event. Mr Choo sat next to Steve and dictated answers to a few questions that were published onto a live blog as he was speaking. A story was then written from the quotes which had been published

3. Steve’s opening question to Mr Choo was as follows: “Was it a difficult decision to move Russell Slade upstairs?”

4. Mr Choo’s response was: “It was not a difficult decision to move Russell to the Head of Football role. Our position has always been clear, that whoever is manager or head coach should at a minimum take us to the play-offs. This squad cost £28 million to assemble. Vincent’s position is clear, any lower than the play-offs is a failure. He is not putting £30 million a year into the business to not succeed, any businessman would want to take this team into the Premier League.”


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Does all this nonsense of who said what count for anything.what really matters is that we have rid ourselves of one of the worst managers we have ever had(in my opinion of course) I know he has been sent upstairs but I think he will soon be on his way out of the club completely

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 1:33 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Ian,So really summoning it up, they stand by Steve Tuckers Statement that Ken Choo said that Russell Slade failed.

Yep :shock:

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 1:42 pm

What is with with local newspapers and Cardiff City.

Both the SWE and Western Mail (WalesOnline) Treat CCFC like a circus. A local rag should be there to support the club not cause infighting.

Its embarrassing at times and with Steve and Chris writing football for them they wonder sales have plummeted in South Wales.

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Mon May 09, 2016 1:51 pm

caerdydd_78 wrote:What is with with local newspapers and Cardiff City.

Both the SWE and Western Mail (WalesOnline) Treat CCFC like a circus. A local rag should be there to support the club not cause infighting.

Its embarrassing at times and with Steve and Chris writing football for them they wonder sales have plummeted in South Wales.


Spot on...Echo and Walesonline are a joke...I haven't bought the Echo for years

Tucker is an embarrassment of a journalist...constantly negative..getting facts wrong etc etc

It's a real shame because if the club and local newspaper worked together it could only benefit both sides

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 2:01 pm

Bluebird1977 wrote:A few points WalesOnline would like to make in response to this morning's statement from Cardiff City chief executive Ken Choo

Monday 9th May 2016

1. Our reporter Steve Tucker attended the Cardiff City Supporters’ Club end of season awards dinner on May 7 in a professional capacity after being given permission to cover the event

2. He approached Ken Choo for a brief interview as part of WalesOnline’s live coverage of the event. Mr Choo sat next to Steve and dictated answers to a few questions that were published onto a live blog as he was speaking. A story was then written from the quotes which had been published

3. Steve’s opening question to Mr Choo was as follows: “Was it a difficult decision to move Russell Slade upstairs?”

4. Mr Choo’s response was: “It was not a difficult decision to move Russell to the Head of Football role. Our position has always been clear, that whoever is manager or head coach should at a minimum take us to the play-offs. This squad cost £28 million to assemble. Vincent’s position is clear, any lower than the play-offs is a failure. He is not putting £30 million a year into the business to not succeed, any businessman would want to take this team into the Premier League.”


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So when tucker wrote his piece again he said choo said Russel was a failure which he didn't did he ,even according to this report he said anything less than plays offs is a failure ,big misinterpreted quotes from tucker again just to try and be negative towards the club

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 2:12 pm

Tucker is a complete idiot it's not the first tone and won't be the last time he chats shite. Choo openly admitted they have failed as a club and I'm my eyes that's a great attitude moving forward.
Can't change the passed but I'm glad they are looking at the future now

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 2:48 pm

The media's are masters of changing context to suit their agenda.

All city fans should boycott WOL as they are mostly jacks and constantly spread negativity.

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 3:23 pm

nubbsy wrote:The media's are masters of changing context to suit their agenda.


The media are not the only ones who do that. I've done it myself and so has 99% of this message board ;)

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 3:41 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Bluebird1977 wrote:A few points WalesOnline would like to make in response to this morning's statement from Cardiff City chief executive Ken Choo

Monday 9th May 2016

1. Our reporter Steve Tucker attended the Cardiff City Supporters’ Club end of season awards dinner on May 7 in a professional capacity after being given permission to cover the event

2. He approached Ken Choo for a brief interview as part of WalesOnline’s live coverage of the event. Mr Choo sat next to Steve and dictated answers to a few questions that were published onto a live blog as he was speaking. A story was then written from the quotes which had been published

3. Steve’s opening question to Mr Choo was as follows: “Was it a difficult decision to move Russell Slade upstairs?”

4. Mr Choo’s response was: “It was not a difficult decision to move Russell to the Head of Football role. Our position has always been clear, that whoever is manager or head coach should at a minimum take us to the play-offs. This squad cost £28 million to assemble. Vincent’s position is clear, any lower than the play-offs is a failure. He is not putting £30 million a year into the business to not succeed, any businessman would want to take this team into the Premier League.”


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So when tucker wrote his piece again he said choo said Russel was a failure which he didn't did he ,even according to this report he said anything less than plays offs is a failure ,big misinterpreted quotes from tucker again just to try and be negative towards the club

Yep for sure always the same though from him as dave jones once said " The fat man wouldn't be happy if we was 10 points clear at the top of the prem " . No wonder he banned him from doing city interviews for a while :laughing6:

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 3:48 pm

But he did fail :digging2: :digging2: :digging2: :lol: :lol:

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 4:16 pm

Storm in a tea cup all this, there are some right drama queens about

'Vincent’s position is clear, any lower than the play-offs is a failure'

If that is not suggesting that Slade failed then I don't know what is.

If he is suggesting that they failed as a 'club' and not Slade per se then why the hell has he lost his job? Are we expecting the entire squad to be released and mass resignations from the tea lady to the kit man.

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 4:45 pm

RV Casual wrote:Storm in a tea cup all this, there are some right drama queens about

'Vincent’s position is clear, any lower than the play-offs is a failure'

If that is not suggesting that Slade failed then I don't know what is.

If he is suggesting that they failed as a 'club' and not Slade per se then why the hell has he lost his job? Are we expecting the entire squad to be released and mass resignations from the tea lady to the kit man.


This ^^^
It's all a bit pedantic. The club has stated the the aim was the top six. Russell Slades job was to achieve that. He didn't, ergo he failed in that ambition. That is an undisputable fact. I'm not their greatest fan but Tucker and the Echo have done nothing wrong at all here.

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Mon May 09, 2016 4:53 pm

harold pinta wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Storm in a tea cup all this, there are some right drama queens about

'Vincent’s position is clear, any lower than the play-offs is a failure'

If that is not suggesting that Slade failed then I don't know what is.

If he is suggesting that they failed as a 'club' and not Slade per se then why the hell has he lost his job? Are we expecting the entire squad to be released and mass resignations from the tea lady to the kit man.


This ^^^
It's all a bit pedantic. The club has stated the the aim was the top six. Russell Slades job was to achieve that. He didn't, ergo he failed in that ambition. That is an undisputable fact. I'm not their greatest fan but Tucker and the Echo have done nothing wrong at all here.
Agree with this , if the club failed in acheiving top 6 then that's surely a failure on Slades part as he is the manager :?: :?:

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 4:59 pm

darran1927 wrote:
harold pinta wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Storm in a tea cup all this, there are some right drama queens about

'Vincent’s position is clear, any lower than the play-offs is a failure'

If that is not suggesting that Slade failed then I don't know what is.

If he is suggesting that they failed as a 'club' and not Slade per se then why the hell has he lost his job? Are we expecting the entire squad to be released and mass resignations from the tea lady to the kit man.


This ^^^
It's all a bit pedantic. The club has stated the the aim was the top six. Russell Slades job was to achieve that. He didn't, ergo he failed in that ambition. That is an undisputable fact. I'm not their greatest fan but Tucker and the Echo have done nothing wrong at all here.
Agree with this , if the club failed in acheiving top 6 then that's surely a failure on Slades part as he is the manager :?: :?:


I like the way Ken Choo has been running things recently. But on this, he really needs to hold his hands up and say that he probably used the wrong choice of words. I'm sure no one will think any worse of him.

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 5:02 pm

harold pinta wrote:
darran1927 wrote:
harold pinta wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Storm in a tea cup all this, there are some right drama queens about

'Vincent’s position is clear, any lower than the play-offs is a failure'

If that is not suggesting that Slade failed then I don't know what is.

If he is suggesting that they failed as a 'club' and not Slade per se then why the hell has he lost his job? Are we expecting the entire squad to be released and mass resignations from the tea lady to the kit man.


This ^^^
It's all a bit pedantic. The club has stated the the aim was the top six. Russell Slades job was to achieve that. He didn't, ergo he failed in that ambition. That is an undisputable fact. I'm not their greatest fan but Tucker and the Echo have done nothing wrong at all here.
Agree with this , if the club failed in acheiving top 6 then that's surely a failure on Slades part as he is the manager :?: :?:


I like the way Ken Choo has been running things recently. But on this, he really needs to hold his hands up and say that he probably used the wrong choice of words. I'm sure no one will think any worse of him.

no but tbh I quite like that he was straight talking

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 5:03 pm

harold pinta wrote:
RV Casual wrote:Storm in a tea cup all this, there are some right drama queens about

'Vincent’s position is clear, any lower than the play-offs is a failure'

If that is not suggesting that Slade failed then I don't know what is.

If he is suggesting that they failed as a 'club' and not Slade per se then why the hell has he lost his job? Are we expecting the entire squad to be released and mass resignations from the tea lady to the kit man.


This ^^^
It's all a bit pedantic. The club has stated the the aim was the top six. Russell Slades job was to achieve that. He didn't, ergo he failed in that ambition. That is an undisputable fact. I'm not their greatest fan but Tucker and the Echo have done nothing wrong at all here.


Just to be a bit more pedantic :laughing6: Every time Slade was asked he always used the phrase "aiming to be" or challenging for a top 6 spot" or words to that effect and to that end he did not fail.At no time did he actually categorically state that anything less would be a failure.I noted on these occasions that he chose his words very carefully.

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Mon May 09, 2016 6:34 pm

anyone else completely pissed off and dont give 2 shits either way about this he said she said bollox... f*cking yawn... :roll:

Re: ' MEDIA WALES RESPOND TO KEN CHOO'S STATEMENT '

Mon May 09, 2016 6:46 pm

RV Casual wrote:Storm in a tea cup all this, there are some right drama queens about

'Vincent’s position is clear, any lower than the play-offs is a failure'

If that is not suggesting that Slade failed then I don't know what is.

If he is suggesting that they failed as a 'club' and not Slade per se then why the hell has he lost his job? Are we expecting the entire squad to be released and mass resignations from the tea lady to the kit man.


I agree with your opinion but the confusing thing is we were told several times that RS job didn't depend on reaching the play-offs.