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Fri May 06, 2016 7:45 am

Five seats in the Senedd for the first time. Fantastic news for Wales. I voted for the Tories but there is no doubt UKIP will shake things up down the Bay.

One in the eye for BlueGog and his motley crew of patronising wankers.

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 8:05 am

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Five seats in the Senedd for the first time. Fantastic news for Wales. I voted for the Tories but there is no doubt UKIP will shake things up down the Bay.

One in the eye for BlueGog and his motley crew of patronising wankers.
still another 8 seats to be declared so could go up definitely a fresh new voice to ruffle some feathers 13 % of the overall votes which is good seeing as 8 years ago they didn't exist

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 8:51 am

:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Welsh Assembly Election 2016: UKIP claims first assembly seats

UKIP has won its first seats in the Welsh Assembly.

Leader Nathan Gill and former Tory MP Mark Reckless are among five UKIP members who have been elected on the regional lists.

Reacting to the win, UKIP's Nigel Farage tweeted: "UKIP now stands up for many traditional Labour voters."

Labour are set to remain the largest party in Cardiff Bay with a tally of 27 seats.

But it suffered the shock loss of Leighton Andrews to Plaid Cymru leader Leanne Wood in Rhondda.


While the Tories made gains in Gower and Vale of Clwyd in 2015, the party failed to capitalise on either in the assembly election.

The final constituency seat to be declared was Cardiff West just before 09:00 BST on Friday which was won by Labour's Mark Drakeford, but saw his 7,500 majority cut to just under 1,200 by Plaid's Neil McEvoy .

As the UKIP regional seats were announced, the party's Sam Gould said: "This is history in the making, not just for Welsh politics but also for UKIP."

And new UKIP AM Mark Reckless said: "We will be a breath of fresh air in the assembly.

"It's been too cosy for too long."

The shock result of the election was when Leanne Wood ousted Labour's Leighton Andrews from the Rhondda seat.

Ms Wood said her victory, which was a 24% swing from Labour to Plaid, was a "new dawn" for Rhondda after claiming 11,891 votes - nearly 3,500 more than Mr Andrews.

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 8:53 am

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Five seats in the Senedd for the first time. Fantastic news for Wales. I voted for the Tories but there is no doubt UKIP will shake things up down the Bay.

One in the eye for BlueGog and his motley crew of patronising wankers.


Umm?? Did I miss something, Plaid 11, UKIP 6, Labour 29, Tories 9. That number hardly going to make a difference for a party who declared during the campaign that Wales doesn't exist! Sure our electoral system gave UKIP seats and as a Welshman I feel embarrassed about that.

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 8:54 am

BlueGog wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Five seats in the Senedd for the first time. Fantastic news for Wales. I voted for the Tories but there is no doubt UKIP will shake things up down the Bay.

One in the eye for BlueGog and his motley crew of patronising wankers.


Umm?? Did I miss something, Plaid 11, UKIP 6, Labour 29, Tories 9. That number hardly going to make a difference for a party who declared during the campaign that Wales doesn't exist! Sure our electoral system gave UKIP seats and as a Welshman I feel embarrassed about that.

You Didn't miss anything its all there above your post :laughing6: Don't be bitter times are changing people have had enough clearly and the party will only get stronger imo :thumbup:

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 9:05 am

BlueGog wrote:
Bluebird since 1948 wrote:Five seats in the Senedd for the first time. Fantastic news for Wales. I voted for the Tories but there is no doubt UKIP will shake things up down the Bay.

One in the eye for BlueGog and his motley crew of patronising wankers.


Umm?? Did I miss something, Plaid 11, UKIP 6, Labour 29, Tories 9. That number hardly going to make a difference for a party who declared during the campaign that Wales doesn't exist! Sure our electoral system gave UKIP seats and as a Welshman I feel embarrassed about that.


UKIP will end up with 7 hopefully. Of course 10% of any parliament is going to make a difference, the UKIP story is incredible. It took decades for Plaid to get this sort of support.

I will never be embarrassed about my nation and I am surprised you are.

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 9:09 am

UKIP a Wolf in sheep's clothing.

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 10:12 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:UKIP a Wolf in sheep's clothing.

:thumbup:

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 10:15 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:UKIP a Wolf in sheep's clothing.


Labour a wolf in wolfs clothing but the thick sheep in this country keep voting for the wolf and get gobbled up every year.

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 10:20 am

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:UKIP a Wolf in sheep's clothing.


Labour a wolf in wolfs clothing but the thick sheep in this country keep voting for the wolf and get gobbled up every year.

Go on the old 1948 you don't f**k about fella :ayatollah:

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 10:30 am

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:UKIP a Wolf in sheep's clothing.


Labour a wolf in wolfs clothing but the thick sheep in this country keep voting for the wolf and get gobbled up every year.

HEAR f*cking HEAR OLDMAN the oldguard would be delighted in there graves rite now :old:

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 10:57 am

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:UKIP a Wolf in sheep's clothing.


Labour a wolf in wolfs clothing but the thick sheep in this country keep voting for the wolf and get gobbled up every year.

Too right the thick labour voters moab aboutique the NHS but Labour bloody control it

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 11:39 am

7 Seats now from zero, this will continue to increase in the next 5 and 10 year elections.

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 12:33 pm

f**k UKIP

Gravy train for tax dodging mercenary MPs

oh, then again.........................................
:lol:

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 1:09 pm

It will be an interesting five years and I suspect the party will change massively/ may not even exist by 2021. They could literally redefine the term "false dawn" if they are not careful.

I know a few Kippers who are quite disappointed with just seven, so that makes me happy. Depending on how they treat the Senedd, they can actually play a constructive role- so well done to them

Personally I'm cuffed with the results as the context of Western politics is a massive rise of the right (even far right).

Yet in Wales, the left has a decent two-thirds majority. This will be important and proves Wales is still a fundamentally left wing country.

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 1:35 pm

Great, celebrate the election of people when half of them don't even live in Wales. UKIP are anti-Welsh and it's an insult to every Welsh person to elect someone like Neil Hamilton to our assembly. The most amusing thing is that you actually think ex tories are going to look after Wales, UKIP don't represent the working class man anymore than David Cameron does.

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 2:07 pm

antill_dunning wrote:Great, celebrate the election of people when half of them don't even live in Wales. UKIP are anti-Welsh and it's an insult to every Welsh person to elect someone like Neil Hamilton to our assembly. The most amusing thing is that you actually think ex tories are going to look after Wales, UKIP don't represent the working class man anymore than David Cameron does.

You have read there manifesto????? I don't think you have by the bullshit you just wrote :lol: ukip are for local people making local choices through referendum s it doesn't matter where you live in the uk they want more localised policy s

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 2:11 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:UKIP a Wolf in sheep's clothing.


Labour a wolf in wolfs clothing but the thick sheep in this country keep voting for the wolf and get gobbled up every year.


Labour are not perfect by any score but how anyone can trust UKIP is beyond me :?

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 2:17 pm

wez1927 wrote:
antill_dunning wrote:Great, celebrate the election of people when half of them don't even live in Wales. UKIP are anti-Welsh and it's an insult to every Welsh person to elect someone like Neil Hamilton to our assembly. The most amusing thing is that you actually think ex tories are going to look after Wales, UKIP don't represent the working class man anymore than David Cameron does.

You have read there manifesto????? I don't think you have by the bullshit you just wrote :lol: ukip are for local people making local choices through referendum s it doesn't matter where you live in the uk they want more localised policy s


If you are of the extreme right then UKIP is your party but no way are UKIP a working class party.

People like Neil Hamilton have nothing in common with the working class.

Like the Lib Dems you only see their true colours when they get into power.

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 2:19 pm

tcblue wrote:It will be an interesting five years and I suspect the party will change massively/ may not even exist by 2021. They could literally redefine the term "false dawn" if they are not careful.

I know a few Kippers who are quite disappointed with just seven, so that makes me happy. Depending on how they treat the Senedd, they can actually play a constructive role- so well done to them

Personally I'm cuffed with the results as the context of Western politics is a massive rise of the right (even far right).

Yet in Wales, the left has a decent two-thirds majority. This will be important and proves Wales is still a fundamentally left wing country.


Well said although according to others that makes us 'thick' :lol:

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 2:20 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
antill_dunning wrote:Great, celebrate the election of people when half of them don't even live in Wales. UKIP are anti-Welsh and it's an insult to every Welsh person to elect someone like Neil Hamilton to our assembly. The most amusing thing is that you actually think ex tories are going to look after Wales, UKIP don't represent the working class man anymore than David Cameron does.

You have read there manifesto????? I don't think you have by the bullshit you just wrote :lol: ukip are for local people making local choices through referendum s it doesn't matter where you live in the uk they want more localised policy s


If you are of the extreme right then UKIP is your party but no way are UKIP a working class party.

People like Neil Hamilton have nothing in common with the working class.

Like the Lib Dems you only see their true colours when they get into power.

If you say so labour are doing a good job at looking like nazi recently with their jew bashing

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 2:25 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
antill_dunning wrote:Great, celebrate the election of people when half of them don't even live in Wales. UKIP are anti-Welsh and it's an insult to every Welsh person to elect someone like Neil Hamilton to our assembly. The most amusing thing is that you actually think ex tories are going to look after Wales, UKIP don't represent the working class man anymore than David Cameron does.

You have read there manifesto????? I don't think you have by the bullshit you just wrote :lol: ukip are for local people making local choices through referendum s it doesn't matter where you live in the uk they want more localised policy s


If you are of the extreme right then UKIP is your party but no way are UKIP a working class party.

People like Neil Hamilton have nothing in common with the working class.

Like the Lib Dems you only see their true colours when they get into power.

If you say so labour are doing a good job at looking like nazi recently with their jew bashing


I am a Labour Party member but admit they are not perfect.

However, they are much better than anything else out there.

And to address your post I find the anti-Semitism spouted by Ken Livingston completely revolting and he should be kicked out on his arse and that goes for anyone else with those views.

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 2:37 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
antill_dunning wrote:Great, celebrate the election of people when half of them don't even live in Wales. UKIP are anti-Welsh and it's an insult to every Welsh person to elect someone like Neil Hamilton to our assembly. The most amusing thing is that you actually think ex tories are going to look after Wales, UKIP don't represent the working class man anymore than David Cameron does.

You have read there manifesto????? I don't think you have by the bullshit you just wrote :lol: ukip are for local people making local choices through referendum s it doesn't matter where you live in the uk they want more localised policy s


If you are of the extreme right then UKIP is your party but no way are UKIP a working class party.

People like Neil Hamilton have nothing in common with the working class.

Like the Lib Dems you only see their true colours when they get into power.

If you say so labour are doing a good job at looking like nazi recently with their jew bashing


I am a Labour Party member but admit they are not perfect.

However, they are much better than anything else out there.

And to address your post I find the anti-Semitism spouted by Ken Livingston completely revolting and he should be kicked out on his arse and that goes for anyone else with those views.
come on its not just him it's through right up to the top it's the Muslim party now

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 4:43 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
antill_dunning wrote:Great, celebrate the election of people when half of them don't even live in Wales. UKIP are anti-Welsh and it's an insult to every Welsh person to elect someone like Neil Hamilton to our assembly. The most amusing thing is that you actually think ex tories are going to look after Wales, UKIP don't represent the working class man anymore than David Cameron does.

You have read there manifesto????? I don't think you have by the bullshit you just wrote :lol: ukip are for local people making local choices through referendum s it doesn't matter where you live in the uk they want more localised policy s


If you are of the extreme right then UKIP is your party but no way are UKIP a working class party.

People like Neil Hamilton have nothing in common with the working class.

Like the Lib Dems you only see their true colours when they get into power.

If you say so labour are doing a good job at looking like nazi recently with their jew bashing


I am a Labour Party member but admit they are not perfect.

However, they are much better than anything else out there.

And to address your post I find the anti-Semitism spouted by Ken Livingston completely revolting and he should be kicked out on his arse and that goes for anyone else with those views.
come on its not just him it's through right up to the top it's the Muslim party now

:lol: :lol: :lol: You are beyond parody, how can one man talk so much shit :laughing5: :laughing5:

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 5:00 pm

wez1927 wrote:
antill_dunning wrote:Great, celebrate the election of people when half of them don't even live in Wales. UKIP are anti-Welsh and it's an insult to every Welsh person to elect someone like Neil Hamilton to our assembly. The most amusing thing is that you actually think ex tories are going to look after Wales, UKIP don't represent the working class man anymore than David Cameron does.

You have read there manifesto????? I don't think you have by the bullshit you just wrote :lol: ukip are for local people making local choices through referendum s it doesn't matter where you live in the uk they want more localised policy s


They ARE for local people as long as you live in England. They are hugely pro parliament for England yet strangely anti-Welsh Assembly... They are a one issue party ( EU Mmbership/Immigration) and the referendum will render them obsolete whichever way the vote goes..

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 5:03 pm

Glad to see UKIP getting working class support. The working class have turned away from labour as they have done nought for Wales.
A fcuked up NHS, no jobs etc. Even the tories putbup thebliving wage and not labour.
Labour are against the working class and are happy to spend spend spend money on social housing, benefits etc.
Everyone has had enough - glad to see ukip doing well.
I'm not interested in their policies at all,we need a change in wales and its Not labour.

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 7:00 pm

I didn't vote for UKIP because I can't stand Hamilton but I am truly thrilled they have won 7 seats. I haven't seen any UKIP voters dissapointed with that result, it's truly remarkable. Tony, keep voting Labour you sheep, they will keep taking you for granted and shit at you from ever greater heights.

To think some parts of Wales have only voted for Labour representation in over 100 years and they still live in some of the most deprived and desperate areas of the country.

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 7:57 pm

Bluebird since 1948 wrote:I didn't vote for UKIP because I can't stand Hamilton but I am truly thrilled they have won 7 seats. I haven't seen any UKIP voters dissapointed with that result, it's truly remarkable. Tony, keep voting Labour you sheep, they will keep taking you for granted and shit at you from ever greater heights.

To think some parts of Wales have only voted for Labour representation in over 100 years and they still live in some of the most deprived and desperate areas of the country.

Totally agree bloody sheep

Re: UKIP

Fri May 06, 2016 8:02 pm

Pains me to say it, but well done UKIP. Clearly connecting to the voters and if they keep up these sorts of results nationally then the 2020 GE will be very interesting.

Not as bad a night for us (Labour) as we expected, but still the Tories will feel more positive than us.

SNP didn't really deliver as we expected, still did well though.

Green Party had a good night.

Re: UKIP

Sat May 07, 2016 9:19 am

It'll be interesting to see what happens, but I can't see how a handful of ex-tory little Englanders will do much good for us in Wales.

Other than the EU referendum (which is already happening), what do people thing UKIP will bring to Wales?

I would imagine that UKIP will become less relevant in the coming months, and I'm sure there won't be seven AMs by the end of the term, but we'll have to wait and see.

Neil Hamilton - tory

Caroline Jones - tory

Mark Reckless - tory

David Rowlands - not a defector, but just read some of his previous interviews. Clearly a bit of a loon.

Gareth Bennett - Again, despite being a city fan, just read some of his recent stuff.

Michelle Brown - Seems fairly sensible compared to the rest. Wants to fight for fairness for North Wales rather than concentrating on the normal argument of immigrants coming over here causing stealing our jobs/clogging up our roads/making the place a mess etc.

Nathan Gill - Didn't come across very well on the leader debates, and was happy enough employing hundreds of immigrants before his company went bust.