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' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:07 pm

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Ken Livingstone suspended from Labour for 'bringing the party into disrepute'

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Thursday 28 April 2016


BY BEN GLAZE



The former London Mayor has been suspended over a series of astonishing media appearances defending Bradford MP Naz Shah



Ken Livingstone has been suspended from the Labour Party today for "bringing the party into disrepute".

The row follows Livingstone going on BBC London Radio last night to defend Bradford MP Naz Shah, who was suspended yesterday over a 2014 Facebook post which supported 'relocation' of Israelis to the USA.

The former London Mayor said he'd never heard anything antisemitic in all his time in the Labour Party, and claimed Hitler himself was once a supporter of Zionism.

The Labour Party confirmed his suspension this afternoon.


He told the BBC's Vanessa Feltz: "As I’ve said, I’ve never heard anybody say anything anti-Semitic, but there’s been a very well-orchestrated campaign by the Israel lobby to smear anybody who criticises Israeli policy as anti-Semitic. I had to put up with 35 years of this..."

He also said "to think of antisemitism and racism as exactly the same thing" was "over the top."

And he went on to say: “Let’s remember when Hitler won his election in 1932, his policy then was that Jews should be moved to Israel.

"He was supporting Zionism – this before he went mad and ended up killing six million Jews.

"The simple fact in all of this is that Naz made these comments at a time when there was another brutal Israeli attack on the Palestinians."

Jeremy Corbyn: We are not tolerating anti-Semitism

Speaking from a campaign visit to Grimsby, Jeremy Corbyn said: "He has been suspended from the party. We are not tolerating anti-Semitism in any form whatsoever in our party."

In a statement, the Labour party said: “Ken Livingstone has been suspended by the Labour Party, pending an investigation, for bringing the Party into disrepute.

“The Chief Whip has summoned John Mann MP to discuss his conduct."


Speaking in Cambridgeshire during an EU referendum campaign visit, David Cameron said: "It's quite clear that the Labour Party has got a problem with anti-Semitism and I think they have got to recognise that anti-Semitism is like racism.

"It is unacceptable in a modern political party, and every political party facing this problem has got to deal with it.

"As I said to Jeremy Corbyn some weeks ago - when I was shouted down in the House of Commons with cries of 'Disgraceful!' from the Labour benches - they have got a problem, it's now totally apparent they have got a problem and they have got to deal with it."


Mr Livingstone, the former London Mayor, was forced to curtail an interview with LBC Radio this afternoon when Labour MP John Mann confronted him, calling him "a Nazi apologist".

He went on to say: "Go back and check what Hitler did? There's a book called Mein Kampf, you've obviously never heard of it."

Mr Livingstone told LBC host James O'Brien he was under attack from a "violent MP" who was going "completely over the top."

An astonishing video emerged of the altercation, showing Mr Mann chasing the former London Mayor up a staircase in London's Milbank, yelling at him while he tried to continue the interview.
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Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:13 pm

Racist labour party

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:15 pm

wez1927 wrote:Racist labour party


Always have been mate,a fucked up party led by lunatics

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:17 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Racist labour party


Always have been mate,a fucked up party led by lunatics
another racist is
Diane Abbot

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:19 pm

wez1927 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Racist labour party


Always have been mate,a fucked up party led by lunatics
another racist is
Diane Abbot


True right she is mate,talks total shit

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:21 pm

grange_end1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Racist labour party


Always have been mate,a fucked up party led by lunatics
another racist is
Diane Abbot


True right she is mate,talks total shit

Most of corbyn s lot hate the British working class man

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 3:59 pm

Livingstone is beyond belief thinking he can recite Hitler's view of Israel and Jew's as justification for another MP's over the top anti semitic Facebook posting about relocating the Israeli population to the USA.

He also states that"to think of anti-semitism and racism as exactly the same thing" was "over the top."

Is Livingstone really trying to say that there is a league table where negative views against Muslim's (for example) is racism but the same thing for Jews doesn't apply?

That is just warped think well beyond anything the racist BNP used to spout and more akin to what you would expect from ISIS.

Ken Livingstone dug his own political grave today and no-one will ever take him seriously again.

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:04 pm

wez1927 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Racist labour party


Always have been mate,a fucked up party led by lunatics
another racist is
Diane Abbot


I would agree with that something very disturbing about that woman and just to prove I'm not sexist I have the same feeling about Trevor Phillips. Both are forever moaning about white people and how hard done by the black population is. There is never anything good said by either about the way this country has given a home and a dam good living to either and millions of others.

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:13 pm

wez1927 wrote:Racist labour party



Dont you support UKIP wez? that's irony at its best!

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:26 pm

nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Racist labour party



Dont you support UKIP wez? that's irony at its best!

but how is ukip racist now think carefully of your answer hmmmmmmmm

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:27 pm

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Racist labour party


Always have been mate,a fucked up party led by lunatics
another racist is
Diane Abbot


I would agree with that something very disturbing about that woman and just to prove I'm not sexist I have the same feeling about Trevor Phillips. Both are forever moaning about white people and how hard done by the black population is. There is never anything good said by either about the way this country has given a home and a dam good living to either and millions of others.

She hates British white men

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:38 pm

Abbott and Corbyn were shagging each other in the 70's.

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 4:46 pm

wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Racist labour party



Dont you support UKIP wez? that's irony at its best!

but how is ukip racist now think carefully of your answer hmmmmmmmm




Wez come on, you do not have to look very far on the net to find how many UKIP councillors and members have been quoted being racist, and granted those who did have been banned from UKIP as has this fella from labour.

But through your theory if a few members of the party are racist, then so is the whole party. If this is the case - with the racists that ukip attracts is ukip not a racist party?

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:11 pm

nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Racist labour party



Dont you support UKIP wez? that's irony at its best!

but how is ukip racist now think carefully of your answer hmmmmmmmm




Wez come on, you do not have to look very far on the net to find how many UKIP councillors and members have been quoted being racist, and granted those who did have been banned from UKIP as has this fella from labour.

But through your theory if a few members of the party are racist, then so is the whole party. If this is the case - with the racists that ukip attracts is ukip not a racist party?

All the parties attract racist but Labour are far worse as today proves corbyn s labour are racist against British people and prefer immigrant s and terrorists symphizer s

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:14 pm

wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Racist labour party



Dont you support UKIP wez? that's irony at its best!

but how is ukip racist now think carefully of your answer hmmmmmmmm




Wez come on, you do not have to look very far on the net to find how many UKIP councillors and members have been quoted being racist, and granted those who did have been banned from UKIP as has this fella from labour.

But through your theory if a few members of the party are racist, then so is the whole party. If this is the case - with the racists that ukip attracts is ukip not a racist party?

All the parties attract racist but Labour are far worse as today proves corbyn s labour are racist against British people and prefer immigrant s and terrorists symphizer s



But you can't tolerate racism against Muslims but not whites?

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:18 pm

nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Racist labour party



Dont you support UKIP wez? that's irony at its best!

but how is ukip racist now think carefully of your answer hmmmmmmmm




Wez come on, you do not have to look very far on the net to find how many UKIP councillors and members have been quoted being racist, and granted those who did have been banned from UKIP as has this fella from labour.

But through your theory if a few members of the party are racist, then so is the whole party. If this is the case - with the racists that ukip attracts is ukip not a racist party?

All the parties attract racist but Labour are far worse as today proves corbyn s labour are racist against British people and prefer immigrant s and terrorists symphizer s



But you can't tolerate racism against Muslims but not whites?

Diferance is islam isn't a race it's a backward ideology of all different creeds

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:41 pm

frazier wrote:Abbott and Corbyn were shagging each other in the 70's.


She's so fat she probably didn't realise he was hanging out the back of her.

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 5:45 pm

Two people do not represent the Labour Party.

What Shah said was a bit silly really, but unacceptable. What Livingstone has done is just idiotic, and will be shocked if he's not kicked out of the party now.

But to label the party "racist" because of two individuals is also idiotic.

I may be biased as a Labour voter and supporter, but this is nowhere as bad as what some UKIP members have been kicked out for - also, as someone who can't stand UKIP, don't think you can label them racist because of what a minority of their members say or do.

Anyway, both will be out of the party soon and that will be the right thing.

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:11 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
grange_end1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:Racist labour party


Always have been mate,a fucked up party led by lunatics
another racist is
Diane Abbot


I would agree with that something very disturbing about that woman and just to prove I'm not sexist I have the same feeling about Trevor Phillips. Both are forever moaning about white people and how hard done by the black population is. There is never anything good said by either about the way this country has given a home and a dam good living to either and millions of others.

She hates British white men


You can tell she does,complete idiot and racists herself

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:31 pm

I thought that this is a CARDIFF CITY forum,not a political soap box.

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:51 pm

ponty blue 2 wrote:I thought that this is a CARDIFF CITY forum,not a political soap box.

Nothing wrong with a bit of healthy debate

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:03 pm

Those that spout Racist at every turn are normally the worst racists of the lot. Normally against Israel and white people.

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Thu Apr 28, 2016 9:06 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Those that spout Racist at every turn are normally the worst racists of the lot. Normally against Israel and white people.

Totally agree no freedom of speech when the looney lefties are around

Re: ' OUTRAGE, SUSPENDED & DISREPUTE ' (Non Football)

Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:24 am

Nuclearblue wrote:Those that spout Racist at every turn are normally the worst racists of the lot. Normally against Israel and white people.


Spot on. For some reason the logic is you can't be racist towards Israel (or Jewish people in general) and white people, unless they are Gypsy's.

In the case of Israel it is claimed that any criticism of their behaviour towards Palestinians is not anti-Semitic but any criticism of Muslim's by anyone over anything is automatically racism :?

It is double standards like this which are fueling antagonism