' Interesting Malky Mackay/Russell Slade '

I just found this, I have not written it,but I found it interesting.





" Malky Mackay (first year) vs Russell Slade "

First of all I want to say that I'm not a huge fan of Malky's style of play and I think he made a pig's ear of our year in the top flight.

However I do believe we can make comparisons of Malky and Slade based on Malky's first year in charge where he had very little resources and started with 8 senior professionals when he arrived.

I can't find a full list of his signings in the first year or the fee's paid (maybe someone could help me out)

I think he signed

Mason - 250k (sold on for 3.5 million)
Gesture - free (sold from Blackburn to Villa for 6 million)
Conway - Free
Cowie - Free
Andrew Taylor - Free
Kenny Miller - not sure if he cost anything
Earnshaw - free
Kiss - not sure
Turner - about 750k
Gunnarsson - not sure


Slade came in to a massive squad (albeit unbalanced) with a lot of fairly talented players.

He had Javi Guerra, Le Fondre, Kenwyn Jones, Dikgacoi, Manga, Marshall, Connolly, Fabio, Mats Daehli, Ravel Morrison, Noone, Morrison, Whittingham (Declan John who acquitted himself fairly well against the likes of Hazard, Andros Townsend, Naval etc the year before)

I will say in Slade's defence that some of these players may not have wanted to be around our club when he arrived but nevertheless considering I'm continually told how brilliant he is at man management I'd expect him to be able to sway one or two of these.

Slade came in (maybe with instructions from on high) and immediately banished a lot of the players he inherited from the first team squad to train with the kids.

If I'm honest I will give him the benefit of the doubt here as team spirit has definitely improved here.

One thing I will add though is that this isolation and removal of players like Mats and Morrison took away a huge amount of creativity from our squad.

He added

Doyle - 1 million
Kennedy - I think about 100
Mcaleny - I am told 250k!!!!!
Peltier - not sure
Malone - not sure
O'Keefe - I think 250k
Revell - 175k
Ameobi - must have been a good fee
Immers
Lawrence
Zohore


I've probably left a few out but I think it's fair to say that when you consider the starting point of both managers, Slade has had far more resources at his disposal than Malky did in his first year yet Malky reached the play offs and lost on penalties to Liverpool in the league cup final.

(I also never had to listen to Malky whinging and moaning about how hard he's had it, and blaming Dave Jones in every other interview)

I just found this, I have not written it,but I found it interesting.





" Malky Mackay (first year) vs Russell Slade "

First of all I want to say that I'm not a huge fan of Malky's style of play and I think he made a pig's ear of our year in the top flight.

However I do believe we can make comparisons of Malky and Slade based on Malky's first year in charge where he had very little resources and started with 8 senior professionals when he arrived.

I can't find a full list of his signings in the first year or the fee's paid (maybe someone could help me out)

I think he signed

Mason - 250k (sold on for 3.5 million)
Gesture - free (sold from Blackburn to Villa for 6 million)
Conway - Free
Cowie - Free
Andrew Taylor - Free
Kenny Miller - not sure if he cost anything
Earnshaw - free
Kiss - not sure
Turner - about 750k
Gunnarsson - not sure


Slade came in to a massive squad (albeit unbalanced) with a lot of fairly talented players.

He had Javi Guerra, Le Fondre, Kenwyn Jones, Dikgacoi, Manga, Marshall, Connolly, Fabio, Mats Daehli, Ravel Morrison, Noone, Morrison, Whittingham (Declan John who acquitted himself fairly well against the likes of Hazard, Andros Townsend, Naval etc the year before)

I will say in Slade's defence that some of these players may not have wanted to be around our club when he arrived but nevertheless considering I'm continually told how brilliant he is at man management I'd expect him to be able to sway one or two of these.

Slade came in (maybe with instructions from on high) and immediately banished a lot of the players he inherited from the first team squad to train with the kids.

If I'm honest I will give him the benefit of the doubt here as team spirit has definitely improved here.

One thing I will add though is that this isolation and removal of players like Mats and Morrison took away a huge amount of creativity from our squad.

He added

Doyle - 1 million
Kennedy - I think about 100
Mcaleny - I am told 250k!!!!!
Peltier - not sure
Malone - not sure
O'Keefe - I think 250k
Revell - 175k
Ameobi - must have been a good fee
Immers
Lawrence
Zohore


I've probably left a few out but I think it's fair to say that when you consider the starting point of both managers, Slade has had far more resources at his disposal than Malky did in his first year yet Malky reached the play offs and lost on penalties to Liverpool in the league cup final.

(I also never had to listen to Malky whinging and moaning about how hard he's had it, and blaming Dave Jones in every other interview)

So Slade is no better, we guessed that

Poor Malky he had it all and cocked it up big time, as for miserable Dave (didn't like him) but played better football on tighter budget than the muppets thst followed him and brought us success.

My oh my for another Manager like him

It's all-right to whine at the start of the job, 18 months on I'm totally fed up with his attitude.

'ooh it's not my fault, the players I have are crap' etc. Man up Slade! Your players are arguably better than the vast majority of Championship sides. He is lucky he has come in after the worst manager in out history, that's his only strength at board level when bragging how well he's done.

Malky wasn't a serial moaner, he got on with the hand he was dealt. He pretty much asked for the sack after going public on his wish for more money in the Jan transfer window after wasting his summer budget. Jones worked in far more difficult conditions.

I just found this, I have not written it,but I found it interesting.





" Malky Mackay (first year) vs Russell Slade "

First of all I want to say that I'm not a huge fan of Malky's style of play and I think he made a pig's ear of our year in the top flight.

However I do believe we can make comparisons of Malky and Slade based on Malky's first year in charge where he had very little resources and started with 8 senior professionals when he arrived.

I can't find a full list of his signings in the first year or the fee's paid (maybe someone could help me out)

I think he signed

Mason - 250k (sold on for 3.5 million)
Gesture - free (sold from Blackburn to Villa for 6 million)
Conway - Free
Cowie - Free
Andrew Taylor - Free
Kenny Miller - not sure if he cost anything
Earnshaw - free
Kiss - not sure
Turner - about 750k
Gunnarsson - not sure


Slade came in to a massive squad (albeit unbalanced) with a lot of fairly talented players.

He had Javi Guerra, Le Fondre, Kenwyn Jones, Dikgacoi, Manga, Marshall, Connolly, Fabio, Mats Daehli, Ravel Morrison, Noone, Morrison, Whittingham (Declan John who acquitted himself fairly well against the likes of Hazard, Andros Townsend, Naval etc the year before)

I will say in Slade's defence that some of these players may not have wanted to be around our club when he arrived but nevertheless considering I'm continually told how brilliant he is at man management I'd expect him to be able to sway one or two of these.

Slade came in (maybe with instructions from on high) and immediately banished a lot of the players he inherited from the first team squad to train with the kids.

If I'm honest I will give him the benefit of the doubt here as team spirit has definitely improved here.

One thing I will add though is that this isolation and removal of players like Mats and Morrison took away a huge amount of creativity from our squad.

He added

Doyle - 1 million
Kennedy - I think about 100
Mcaleny - I am told 250k!!!!!
Peltier - not sure
Malone - not sure
O'Keefe - I think 250k
Revell - 175k
Ameobi - must have been a good fee
Immers
Lawrence
Zohore


I've probably left a few out but I think it's fair to say that when you consider the starting point of both managers, Slade has had far more resources at his disposal than Malky did in his first year yet Malky reached the play offs and lost on penalties to Liverpool in the league cup final.

(I also never had to listen to Malky whinging and moaning about how hard he's had it, and blaming Dave Jones in every other interview)

1 we gave gestede away for £250k so the 6 million does Malky no favours
2 Miller I believe cost £900 k
3 immers ,ameobi,zohore etc are not in slades first year
I'm all for comparisons / debate
But this is so biased it's laughable
And one more thing corneleous

It's a tough comparrison because Malky didn't have a budget but he did have wages as the club was paying massive amounts to lure those free transfers in that Slade just doesn't have.

Fundamentally Slade had two transfer windows to get a striker he didn't, then had a heavily restricted window and ended up with two midfielders up front. If he's managed to get someone in we would be 6-7 points better off.

Giving Slade another year is 50/50, whoever comes in is going to have the restrictions Slade has, plus have to probably bring in a GK, CB, a winger and probably two forwards so it's a big job in what will be a very competitive league next year.

EDIT: Club should really look to extend Turner's contract unless he's on silly money and the medical team aren't convinced he can be fit long term he's a solid replacement for Manga.

Fundamentally Slade had two transfer windows to get a striker he didn't, then had a heavily restricted window and ended up with two midfielders up front. If he's managed to get someone in we would be 6-7 points better off.

That's his choice, he has loaned out one striker and has two on the bench.

Fundamentally Slade had two transfer windows to get a striker he didn't, then had a heavily restricted window and ended up with two midfielders up front. If he's managed to get someone in we would be 6-7 points better off.

That's his choice, he has loaned out one striker and has two on the bench.

Completely, be interesting to look at his history and if he's ever been able to bring in goal scorers.

As I remember Malky had only 9 or so pro's on the books when he took over so was able to fashion a team of his own signings without having to ship loads out like Slade has.To his credit he got to the playoffs but had a small squad that was too knackered to do anything once we got there.In my 40+ yrs following the city his brand of football was the most turgid I have ever seen.Slade for his troubles took over a club that was in a bigger mess both on and off the field than Malky did and even DJ who managed (heroically in my view)to put out a football team when we had one foot in the grave and to his credit played some attractive football never held sway over a squad so full of ego's and very few willing to roll up their sleeves that Slade inherited.

Fundamentally Slade had two transfer windows to get a striker he didn't, then had a heavily restricted window and ended up with two midfielders up front. If he's managed to get someone in we would be 6-7 points better off.

That's his choice, he has loaned out one striker and has two on the bench.

Completely, be interesting to look at his history and if he's ever been able to bring in goal scorers.

He has used loads of strikers and not got much from any of them.

Malky and Slade had the same amount of money. Difference was Malky joined the club where the atmosphere around the club wasn't absolutely toxic.