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Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:37 am
Is what you might expect to hear from a manager that doesn't always look to shift blame onto his players
Wed Apr 20, 2016 9:54 am
ThomasC wrote:Is what you might expect to hear from a manager that doesn't always look to shift blame onto his players

That's exactly what Slade should say
Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:17 am
Forever Blue wrote:ThomasC wrote:Is what you might expect to hear from a manager that doesn't always look to shift blame onto his players

That's exactly what Slade should say
He manages a big club now Annis in comparison to the club's he's managed before, blaming players 100% of the time when he has plenty of options to set a team up is not good enough at this level. I thought that the new contract was just about right considering his relationship with Tan being a good thing for the stability of the club. However, what's the point of a good relationship that achieves next to nothing?
Slade has made plenty of mistakes during the slump in form, fans have the impression he is a very humble man, I beg to differ. His total lack of acknowledgement in his role of throwing away the chance to challenge is putting me right off him!
btw, hope your all o.k out there Annis, very sad news. Without doubt princess had a great life with you and fam
Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:28 am
ThomasC wrote:Forever Blue wrote:ThomasC wrote:Is what you might expect to hear from a manager that doesn't always look to shift blame onto his players

That's exactly what Slade should say
He manages a big club now Annis in comparison to the club's he's managed before, blaming players 100% of the time when he has plenty of options to set a team up is not good enough at this level. I thought that the new contract was just about right considering his relationship with Tan being a good thing for the stability of the club. However, what's the point of a good relationship that achieves next to nothing?
Slade has made plenty of mistakes during the slump in form, fans have the impression he is a very humble man, I beg to differ. His total lack of acknowledgement in his role of throwing away the chance to challenge is putting me right off him!
btw, hope your all o.k out there Annis, very sad news. Without doubt princess had a great life with you and fam
Thomas, Correct in a lot of what your saying,he never takes responsibilty,which he has to.
Your right, we prob are to big for him.
Wed Apr 20, 2016 10:42 am
Forever Blue wrote:ThomasC wrote:Forever Blue wrote:ThomasC wrote:Is what you might expect to hear from a manager that doesn't always look to shift blame onto his players

That's exactly what Slade should say
He manages a big club now Annis in comparison to the club's he's managed before, blaming players 100% of the time when he has plenty of options to set a team up is not good enough at this level. I thought that the new contract was just about right considering his relationship with Tan being a good thing for the stability of the club. However, what's the point of a good relationship that achieves next to nothing?
Slade has made plenty of mistakes during the slump in form, fans have the impression he is a very humble man, I beg to differ. His total lack of acknowledgement in his role of throwing away the chance to challenge is putting me right off him!
btw, hope your all o.k out there Annis, very sad news. Without doubt princess had a great life with you and fam
Thomas, Correct in a lot of what your saying,he never takes responsibilty,which he has to.
Your right, we prob are to big for him.
At well supported clubs you have a supporter base to appease. You have to take responsibility for your decisions, if it's not working you need to find a solution, explain to the fans what your doing. The teams we are losing to do not have better players than us. If a striker is not taking chances, drop them Slade if you find the courage to do so.
The way the team has resorted to the conservative approach comes from Slade. We played better when the play-offs weren't in sight a few months ago, we should of been the form team going into those play-offs, our run in wasn't that difficult playing mostly mid table teams after Derby, it could of been done. QPR lost 0-4 to Brighton last night and we drew 0-0
Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:12 am
ThomasC wrote:At well supported clubs you have a supporter base to appease. You have to take responsibility for your decisions, if it's not working you need to find a solution, explain to the fans what your doing. The teams we are losing to do not have better players than us. If a striker is not taking chances, drop them Slade if you find the courage to do so.
The way the team has resorted to the conservative approach comes from Slade. We played better when the play-offs weren't in sight a few months ago, we should of been the form team going into those play-offs, our run in wasn't that difficult playing mostly mid table teams after Derby, it could of been done. QPR lost 0-4 to Brighton last night and we drew 0-0

I agree Slade should take responsibility for what has happened, if only so he can learn from it.
However, I don't believe change would be a good thing as a new manager would have to work under the same constraints and with the same group of players and the same owner. There is no guarantee that a new manager could change anything for the better.
My concerned about Slade is he might be appeasing the more dominant players in the dressing room, such as Gunnar, Noone and AP because he plays them when it makes little sense or it's crying out for change.
Wed Apr 20, 2016 11:20 am
Tony Blue Williams wrote:ThomasC wrote:At well supported clubs you have a supporter base to appease. You have to take responsibility for your decisions, if it's not working you need to find a solution, explain to the fans what your doing. The teams we are losing to do not have better players than us. If a striker is not taking chances, drop them Slade if you find the courage to do so.
The way the team has resorted to the conservative approach comes from Slade. We played better when the play-offs weren't in sight a few months ago, we should of been the form team going into those play-offs, our run in wasn't that difficult playing mostly mid table teams after Derby, it could of been done. QPR lost 0-4 to Brighton last night and we drew 0-0

I agree Slade should take responsibility for what has happened, if only so he can learn from it.
However, I don't believe change would be a good thing as a new manager would have to work under the same constraints and with the same group of players and the same owner. There is no guarantee that a new manager could change anything for the better.
My concerned about Slade is he might be appeasing the more dominant players in the dressing room, such as Gunnar, Noone and AP because he plays them when it makes little sense or it's crying out for change.
I have read your views on a few threads about Slade playing players out of 'appeasement,' neglecting his responsibility to put out the best team possible for a positive outcome in favour of keeping players happy.
Your views are shared by many including myself. It is frustrating some players only get dropped via injury and not poor form. It costs us (x) amount of points over the season is my view.
Wed Apr 20, 2016 2:31 pm
One of my biggest gripes with Slade is,as has been mentioned,is the fact he lets players who are not playing well,stay in the team too long,Noone being a particular example. This policy doesn't give encouragement to those players who are on the bench and trying to get into the first team. Another thing that annoys me is the continual appearance of Amoebi,who has all the skill in the world but very little application. I know there's a rumour that it's in his contract that he must either start or come in if sub and whoever agreed to that,needs their head read. His substitutions continue to baffle especially when he takes players who are playing well and dropping O'Keefe against Fulham must be the strangest decision all season.
Wed Apr 20, 2016 5:15 pm
All managers make excuses that's the way it is.
Wed Apr 20, 2016 7:44 pm
I couldn't agree more with this comment!!!!
Slade on not starting Zohore...."I don’t think you can start looking at things like that and saying I should have done this, should we have done this?It’s alright looking back. That group had played very well in the first period.Kenneth’s come on previously and it’s not quite happened for him and he’s missed opportunities.I’m delighted for him. He’s come on, he’s scored an opportunity and we’re pleased for him and that might give him a little bit of confidence and momentum going forward so it’s a positive.However, we still find ourselves six points behind Sheffield"
OK the man missed a few chances.... at least he's making goal scoring chances.... He was millimetres from getting us 3 points against Burnley.
I don't know enough about Zohore but one thing I do know is we couldn't manage a single shot on target in the first half against a nothing to play for QPR. Surly it had to be worth a gamble. Then instead of admitting that this was a potential option he has a side pop at him missing chances in previous games .... It stinks of deflecting the blame and on this alone I would like to see a new manger for next season.
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