' Weak fans '

I've seen a lot of weak posting from our fans after the loss at Fulham and the draw on Saturday. Going towards the manager, headhunting him, despite the good job he has done this season.

Bit weak to criticise him considering how much everyone above us has spent. Of course fans are entitled to their opinions but it just shows how fickle fans can be. As long as we finish in the top 10 which looks likely, I'll be happy with our season. We have faced many obstacles over the season. The embargo, selling Mason and letting Jones leave.

Cry for Warnock all you want but he's not coming any time soon.

agreed.Fortunately no-one listens to them anyway as they will all have flipped again after 5 mins.

I've seen a lot of weak posting from our fans after the loss at Fulham and the draw on Saturday. Going towards the manager, headhunting him, despite the good job he has done this season.

Bit weak to criticise him considering how much everyone above us has spent. Of course fans are entitled to their opinions but it just shows how fickle fans can be. As long as we finish in the top 10 which looks likely, I'll be happy with our season. We have faced many obstacles over the season. The embargo, selling Mason and letting Jones leave.

Cry for Warnock all you want but he's not coming any time soon.

A limited budget but also a lot of ordinary players on the books, we had 12 on loan,the biggest problem to me was our huge inconsistency.....never 2 performances the same.....and in my eyes this was the season to have gone for it....no outstanding teams in the league this season......

Slade has done a difficult job relatively well.

However, that cannot paper over the cracks of some poor decisions lately.

Dropping O'Keefe at Fulham, playing safety first on Saturday, taking off Immers and Whitts when chasing the game, picking Noone when he's clearly knackered, not changing the formation when QPR were clearly set up to simply match us, etc.

Good managers make good decisions at key times, Slade has steadied the ship but I think we are being overly optimistic to think he can take us up.

Plastics and now weak fans

I've seen a lot of weak posting from our fans after the loss at Fulham and the draw on Saturday. Going towards the manager, headhunting him, despite the good job he has done this season.

Bit weak to criticise him considering how much everyone above us has spent. Of course fans are entitled to their opinions but it just shows how fickle fans can be. As long as we finish in the top 10 which looks likely, I'll be happy with our season. We have faced many obstacles over the season. The embargo, selling Mason and letting Jones leave.

Cry for Warnock all you want but he's not coming any time soon.

"Just shows how fickle fans can be"

Absolutely right. As you said about Slade in your post of January 16th -

"I'd be disappointed if he got given a contract extension and I doubt I'd renew my season ticket if he was here beyond the season. I want change"

Fickle? Weak?

Were those obstacles not in place in January?

Or are you one of those many fickle fans who change their opinions on the manager two or three times a season depending on your agenda?

I've seen a lot of weak posting from our fans after the loss at Fulham and the draw on Saturday. Going towards the manager, headhunting him, despite the good job he has done this season.

Bit weak to criticise him considering how much everyone above us has spent. Of course fans are entitled to their opinions but it just shows how fickle fans can be. As long as we finish in the top 10 which looks likely, I'll be happy with our season. We have faced many obstacles over the season. The embargo, selling Mason and letting Jones leave.

Cry for Warnock all you want but he's not coming any time soon.

"Just shows how fickle fans can be"

Absolutely right. As you said about Slade in your post of January 16th -

"I'd be disappointed if he got given a contract extension and I doubt I'd renew my season ticket if he was here beyond the season. I want change"

Fickle? Weak?

Were those obstacles not in place in January?

Or are you one of those many fickle fans who change their opinions on the manager two or three times a season depending on your agenda?

Haha. Some great detective work there David's bravo

Slade has done a difficult job relatively well.

However, that cannot paper over the cracks of some poor decisions lately.

Dropping O'Keefe at Fulham, playing safety first on Saturday, taking off Immers and Whitts when chasing the game, picking Noone when he's clearly knackered, not changing the formation when QPR were clearly set up to simply match us, etc.

Good managers make good decisions at key times, Slade has steadied the ship but I think we are being overly optimistic to think he can take us up.

Very good post and this is my criticism of Slade....he stumbles into formation changes when he is left with no option due to player injuries, player sales etc

He is nowhere near proactive enough in his decision making and some of his substitutions are either like for like, too late in the game to effect it or at times just bizarre.

He's steadied the ship and he deserves credit for that...will he get us promoted no chance.

He has made too many mistakes in the past few games let alone his ridiculous perseverance with Pilkgtn up front, and don't forget the months og him playing a rigid 4-4-2 cr*p with Whitm and Gunnsn in central midfield.

Zahore gets a chance every time he's on the pitch, yes he misses them but given more time on the field surely he'd net one.

Malone is getting worse each game.

Noone - he is so predictable.

Ameobi - OMG how bad is he?

If Slade is our manager next season then we have no hope. I don't care if people ask who would replace him. There obviously are managers out there who with proper research and due diligence could do a lot better for us. I don't know who these are, but that is what a football clubs do, they have people who they can reach out to for tips and hints.

I think the reaction at the end of the game showed most fans who go to the games are behind slade and the team

I've seen a lot of weak posting from our fans after the loss at Fulham and the draw on Saturday. Going towards the manager, headhunting him, despite the good job he has done this season.

Bit weak to criticise him considering how much everyone above us has spent. Of course fans are entitled to their opinions but it just shows how fickle fans can be. As long as we finish in the top 10 which looks likely, I'll be happy with our season. We have faced many obstacles over the season. The embargo, selling Mason and letting Jones leave.

Cry for Warnock all you want but he's not coming any time soon.

I can see where your coming from in that some supporters fail to take in the bigger picture and spend too much time on fickle moans.

I think it is fair to complain about some of Slade's short comings such as substitutions, his persistence with Malone and failure to change the Pilkington experiment now the surprise element has been exhausted.

However, there are other moans like team selection (we don't know the fitness issues), tactics (in other words Slade can't control luck ) and consistency (the Holy Grail that all teams want) which are unfair in the main because of that 'bigger picture' which is the lack of money for signings, the cost cutting and fan disenfranchise which he inherited from OGS and had to deal with them.

However, at the end of this season (based on finishing 7th) I would rate his season as progression. His performance in the transfer market has been mixed but that is true of any manager. Over all he has turned in a 7/10 season and it is now time to build on that rather than rip it up and start again.

I've seen a lot of weak posting from our fans after the loss at Fulham and the draw on Saturday. Going towards the manager, headhunting him, despite the good job he has done this season.

Bit weak to criticise him considering how much everyone above us has spent. Of course fans are entitled to their opinions but it just shows how fickle fans can be. As long as we finish in the top 10 which looks likely, I'll be happy with our season. We have faced many obstacles over the season. The embargo, selling Mason and letting Jones leave.

Cry for Warnock all you want but he's not coming any time soon.

I can see where your coming from in that some supporters fail to take in the bigger picture and spend too much time on fickle moans.

I think it is fair to complain about some of Slade's short comings such as substitutions, his persistence with Malone and failure to change the Pilkington experiment now the surprise element has been exhausted.

However, there are other moans like team selection (we don't know the fitness issues), tactics (in other words Slade can't control luck ) and consistency (the Holy Grail that all teams want) which are unfair in the main because of that 'bigger picture' which is the lack of money for signings, the cost cutting and fan disenfranchise which he inherited from OGS and had to deal with them.

However, at the end of this season (based on finishing 7th) I would rate his season as progression. His performance in the transfer market has been mixed but that is true of any manager. Over all he has turned in a 7/10 season and it is now time to build on that rather than rip it up and start again.

You make some good points and I can see where you're coming from.

I'm not so sure about some of the things you mention as the "bigger picture" though.

Lack of money for signings - very true but what little money Slade has had to spend he's not exactly spent wisely. In fact some of our better signings, including Immers who has been excellent were loans or free transfers.

The cost cutting - someone posted a copy of the first team selected by Slade when he arrived which showed that many of the same players who are in the squad now were in the squad then. Yes he has had to cut costs massively but that has been done mostly by getting rid of fringe players and players who Slade would never have selected anyway (Daehli, Berget, Burgstaller, Guerra etc) The only first choice player who has really been part of the "cost cutting" is Kenwyne, inevitable really given his excessive salary.

Fan disenfranchisement - that should have little or no effect on Slade's job. We like to think that as fans we have a part to play, that we are the "12th man" and players respond to our support but I think sometimes we overestimate our contribution. 27000 fans at the game on Saturday yet that first half performance would have most of them (even the ones with free tickets!) wondering if they should bother coming again. Over 2000 away fans at Fulham last week who shouted and sang and supported the team superbly for 90 minutes were unable to inspire anything other than a defeat.

I can't argue that if we finish 7th this season it will be an improvement on last season - the league table doesn't lie. For me personally I haven't seen anything to suggest that next season could improve on this. In fact if we lose some of our better players in the summer I think we may do worse next season.

embargo, selling mason and jones ,, selling mason and jones is the best move the club has made

I've seen a lot of weak posting from our fans after the loss at Fulham and the draw on Saturday. Going towards the manager, headhunting him, despite the good job he has done this season.

Bit weak to criticise him considering how much everyone above us has spent. Of course fans are entitled to their opinions but it just shows how fickle fans can be. As long as we finish in the top 10 which looks likely, I'll be happy with our season. We have faced many obstacles over the season. The embargo, selling Mason and letting Jones leave.

Cry for Warnock all you want but he's not coming any time soon.

I can see where your coming from in that some supporters fail to take in the bigger picture and spend too much time on fickle moans.

I think it is fair to complain about some of Slade's short comings such as substitutions, his persistence with Malone and failure to change the Pilkington experiment now the surprise element has been exhausted.

However, there are other moans like team selection (we don't know the fitness issues), tactics (in other words Slade can't control luck ) and consistency (the Holy Grail that all teams want) which are unfair in the main because of that 'bigger picture' which is the lack of money for signings, the cost cutting and fan disenfranchise which he inherited from OGS and had to deal with them.

However, at the end of this season (based on finishing 7th) I would rate his season as progression. His performance in the transfer market has been mixed but that is true of any manager. Over all he has turned in a 7/10 season and it is now time to build on that rather than rip it up and start again.

You make some good points and I can see where you're coming from.

I'm not so sure about some of the things you mention as the "bigger picture" though.

Lack of money for signings - very true but what little money Slade has had to spend he's not exactly spent wisely. In fact some of our better signings, including Immers who has been excellent were loans or free transfers.

The cost cutting - someone posted a copy of the first team selected by Slade when he arrived which showed that many of the same players who are in the squad now were in the squad then. Yes he has had to cut costs massively but that has been done mostly by getting rid of fringe players and players who Slade would never have selected anyway (Daehli, Berget, Burgstaller, Guerra etc) The only first choice player who has really been part of the "cost cutting" is Kenwyne, inevitable really given his excessive salary.

Fan disenfranchisement - that should have little or no effect on Slade's job. We like to think that as fans we have a part to play, that we are the "12th man" and players respond to our support but I think sometimes we overestimate our contribution. 27000 fans at the game on Saturday yet that first half performance would have most of them (even the ones with free tickets!) wondering if they should bother coming again. Over 2000 away fans at Fulham last week who shouted and sang and supported the team superbly for 90 minutes were unable to inspire anything other than a defeat.

I can't argue that if we finish 7th this season it will be an improvement on last season - the league table doesn't lie. For me personally I haven't seen anything to suggest that next season could improve on this. In fact if we lose some of our better players in the summer I think we may do worse next season.

It's true that the team which was posted the other day contained all the good players we have in their respective positions, except up front. The 2 strikers selected against Nottingham Forest have gone out on loan for the season (& are unlikely to return) and the back ups available at the time have also gone.

What that team vs. Nottingham F highlighted was our chronic lack of firepower upfront and the inability to sign replacements is directly due to cost cutting. It is fair to say with 4 games to go that the lack of a decent striker has cost us the play-offs this season.

The disenfranchisement expressed itself mostly in the loss of 50% of season ticket holders and crowds shrinking to all time low at CCFC. Again this had a knock on affect to the cost cutting and a very sterile atmosphere in the ground, in fairness to Slade and the team they responded well by producing one of the better home records in the division.

If you can't see an improvement then look at last season's table we finished 11th with 62 points. Currently we are 7th with 64 points with 4 games to play. That is clear progression.

I've seen a lot of weak posting from our fans after the loss at Fulham and the draw on Saturday. Going towards the manager, headhunting him, despite the good job he has done this season.

Bit weak to criticise him considering how much everyone above us has spent. Of course fans are entitled to their opinions but it just shows how fickle fans can be. As long as we finish in the top 10 which looks likely, I'll be happy with our season. We have faced many obstacles over the season. The embargo, selling Mason and letting Jones leave.

Cry for Warnock all you want but he's not coming any time soon.

I can see where your coming from in that some supporters fail to take in the bigger picture and spend too much time on fickle moans.

I think it is fair to complain about some of Slade's short comings such as substitutions, his persistence with Malone and failure to change the Pilkington experiment now the surprise element has been exhausted.

However, there are other moans like team selection (we don't know the fitness issues), tactics (in other words Slade can't control luck ) and consistency (the Holy Grail that all teams want) which are unfair in the main because of that 'bigger picture' which is the lack of money for signings, the cost cutting and fan disenfranchise which he inherited from OGS and had to deal with them.

However, at the end of this season (based on finishing 7th) I would rate his season as progression. His performance in the transfer market has been mixed but that is true of any manager. Over all he has turned in a 7/10 season and it is now time to build on that rather than rip it up and start again.

You make some good points and I can see where you're coming from.

I'm not so sure about some of the things you mention as the "bigger picture" though.

Lack of money for signings - very true but what little money Slade has had to spend he's not exactly spent wisely. In fact some of our better signings, including Immers who has been excellent were loans or free transfers.

The cost cutting - someone posted a copy of the first team selected by Slade when he arrived which showed that many of the same players who are in the squad now were in the squad then. Yes he has had to cut costs massively but that has been done mostly by getting rid of fringe players and players who Slade would never have selected anyway (Daehli, Berget, Burgstaller, Guerra etc) The only first choice player who has really been part of the "cost cutting" is Kenwyne, inevitable really given his excessive salary.

Fan disenfranchisement - that should have little or no effect on Slade's job. We like to think that as fans we have a part to play, that we are the "12th man" and players respond to our support but I think sometimes we overestimate our contribution. 27000 fans at the game on Saturday yet that first half performance would have most of them (even the ones with free tickets!) wondering if they should bother coming again. Over 2000 away fans at Fulham last week who shouted and sang and supported the team superbly for 90 minutes were unable to inspire anything other than a defeat.

I can't argue that if we finish 7th this season it will be an improvement on last season - the league table doesn't lie. For me personally I haven't seen anything to suggest that next season could improve on this. In fact if we lose some of our better players in the summer I think we may do worse next season.

It's true that the team which was posted the other day contained all the good players we have in their respective positions, except up front. The 2 strikers selected against Nottingham Forest have gone out on loan for the season (& are unlikely to return) and the back ups available at the time have also gone.

What that team vs. Nottingham F highlighted was our chronic lack of firepower upfront and the inability to sign replacements is directly due to cost cutting. It is fair to say with 4 games to go that the lack of a decent striker has cost us the play-offs this season.

The disenfranchisement expressed itself mostly in the loss of 50% of season ticket holders and crowds shrinking to all time low at CCFC. Again this had a knock on affect to the cost cutting and a very sterile atmosphere in the ground, in fairness to Slade and the team they responded well by producing one of the better home records in the division.

If you can't see an improvement then look at last season's table we finished 11th with 62 points. Currently we are 7th with 64 points with 4 games to play. That is clear progression.

No denying that this year has been a massive improvement on last season in terms of performance and results

What worries me is Slade's ability to be flexible and making the right decision at the right time. There is no doubt that it would be harsh for him to lose his job but, emotion aside, I really don't feel that he can take us to the next level. I hope he proves me wrong but I just can't see it based on the evidence so far.

Slade is an underdog backs against the wall manager. You need swagger and an air of authority to lead a club to promotion, he just hasn't got it.

I wouldn't want him even if we are promoted, make the play offs or narrowly avoided relegation, he is a football dinosaur. Saturday for instance all we did was knock it long to a converted winger and an attacking midfielder neither of which are going to do anything against championship centre halfs. Nooney didn't touch the ball for 85 mins, all he did is watch the ball in the air. Zahore looks perfect for Slade a big un, all we have to do is find him a small one to complement the 1980's 442 model.

Ole left a mess, he has cleared that up to a degree and not got relegated. Thanks Russ, but your job is done.

Slade has to go! He had his chance over the last 2 games, and he blew it! Whitts was overrun in midfield.

Fickle fans? Weak fans? How about all too knowing fans, you twerp??

If Warnock was our manager after the Fa Cup debacle we would be higher than Hull.

Slade got lucky, in came Immers who runs the show for us, but Slade is ordinary, no real tactics.

Did u see Spurs tonight? Now thats what I call TACTICS.

I've seen a lot of weak posting from our fans after the loss at Fulham and the draw on Saturday. Going towards the manager, headhunting him, despite the good job he has done this season.

Bit weak to criticise him considering how much everyone above us has spent. Of course fans are entitled to their opinions but it just shows how fickle fans can be. As long as we finish in the top 10 which looks likely, I'll be happy with our season. We have faced many obstacles over the season. The embargo, selling Mason and letting Jones leave.

Cry for Warnock all you want but he's not coming any time soon.

A limited budget but also a lot of ordinary players on the books, we had 12 on loan,the biggest problem to me was our huge inconsistency.....never 2 performances the same.....and in my eyes this was the season to have gone for it....no outstanding teams in the league this season......

I tend to agree, but I think there will be a similar standard to The Championship next season as this. The only team (subject to confirmation) coming down who would be expected to challenge would be Newcastle United. The others (Villa in paricular) will be in for a surprise and an adjusted City squad with a decent strike force could/should be up there in the mix

I've seen a lot of weak posting from our fans after the loss at Fulham and the draw on Saturday. Going towards the manager, headhunting him, despite the good job he has done this season.

Bit weak to criticise him considering how much everyone above us has spent. Of course fans are entitled to their opinions but it just shows how fickle fans can be. As long as we finish in the top 10 which looks likely, I'll be happy with our season. We have faced many obstacles over the season. The embargo, selling Mason and letting Jones leave.

Cry for Warnock all you want but he's not coming any time soon.

I can see where your coming from in that some supporters fail to take in the bigger picture and spend too much time on fickle moans.

I think it is fair to complain about some of Slade's short comings such as substitutions, his persistence with Malone and failure to change the Pilkington experiment now the surprise element has been exhausted.

However, there are other moans like team selection (we don't know the fitness issues), tactics (in other words Slade can't control luck ) and consistency (the Holy Grail that all teams want) which are unfair in the main because of that 'bigger picture' which is the lack of money for signings, the cost cutting and fan disenfranchise which he inherited from OGS and had to deal with them.

However, at the end of this season (based on finishing 7th) I would rate his season as progression. His performance in the transfer market has been mixed but that is true of any manager. Over all he has turned in a 7/10 season and it is now time to build on that rather than rip it up and start again.

You make some good points and I can see where you're coming from.

I'm not so sure about some of the things you mention as the "bigger picture" though.

Lack of money for signings - very true but what little money Slade has had to spend he's not exactly spent wisely. In fact some of our better signings, including Immers who has been excellent were loans or free transfers.

The cost cutting - someone posted a copy of the first team selected by Slade when he arrived which showed that many of the same players who are in the squad now were in the squad then. Yes he has had to cut costs massively but that has been done mostly by getting rid of fringe players and players who Slade would never have selected anyway (Daehli, Berget, Burgstaller, Guerra etc) The only first choice player who has really been part of the "cost cutting" is Kenwyne, inevitable really given his excessive salary.

Fan disenfranchisement - that should have little or no effect on Slade's job. We like to think that as fans we have a part to play, that we are the "12th man" and players respond to our support but I think sometimes we overestimate our contribution. 27000 fans at the game on Saturday yet that first half performance would have most of them (even the ones with free tickets!) wondering if they should bother coming again. Over 2000 away fans at Fulham last week who shouted and sang and supported the team superbly for 90 minutes were unable to inspire anything other than a defeat.

I can't argue that if we finish 7th this season it will be an improvement on last season - the league table doesn't lie. For me personally I haven't seen anything to suggest that next season could improve on this. In fact if we lose some of our better players in the summer I think we may do worse next season.

It's true that the team which was posted the other day contained all the good players we have in their respective positions, except up front. The 2 strikers selected against Nottingham Forest have gone out on loan for the season (& are unlikely to return) and the back ups available at the time have also gone.

What that team vs. Nottingham F highlighted was our chronic lack of firepower upfront and the inability to sign replacements is directly due to cost cutting. It is fair to say with 4 games to go that the lack of a decent striker has cost us the play-offs this season.

The disenfranchisement expressed itself mostly in the loss of 50% of season ticket holders and crowds shrinking to all time low at CCFC. Again this had a knock on affect to the cost cutting and a very sterile atmosphere in the ground, in fairness to Slade and the team they responded well by producing one of the better home records in the division.

If you can't see an improvement then look at last season's table we finished 11th with 62 points. Currently we are 7th with 64 points with 4 games to play. That is clear progression.

Well Said.

I've seen a lot of weak posting from our fans after the loss at Fulham and the draw on Saturday. Going towards the manager, headhunting him, despite the good job he has done this season.

Bit weak to criticise him considering how much everyone above us has spent. Of course fans are entitled to their opinions but it just shows how fickle fans can be. As long as we finish in the top 10 which looks likely, I'll be happy with our season. We have faced many obstacles over the season. The embargo, selling Mason and letting Jones leave.

Cry for Warnock all you want but he's not coming any time soon.

"Just shows how fickle fans can be"

Absolutely right. As you said about Slade in your post of January 16th -

"I'd be disappointed if he got given a contract extension and I doubt I'd renew my season ticket if he was here beyond the season. I want change"

Fickle? Weak?

Were those obstacles not in place in January?

Or are you one of those many fickle fans who change their opinions on the manager two or three times a season depending on your agenda?