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Slade v Warnock

Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:44 pm

Does anyone think that if Slade had gone into Rotherham when Warnock did, in the positon they were in, with the results they had, with no money to spend, outside the transfer window and with the squad they had, that he would have been able to get 21 points out of the last 30?

:laughing6: :laughing6:

Just shows what an experienced Championship manager can do with limited resources and an inferior squad to ours in a very short period of time.

If Tan has any idea about football (which he frequently proves is questionable) he would be looking to bring in a manager like Warnock if he really is serious about promotion next season.

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:49 pm

:sleepy2:

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:50 pm

davids wrote:Does anyone think that if Slade had gone into Rotherham when Warnock did, in the positon they were in, with the results they had, with no money to spend, outside the transfer window and with the squad they had, that he would have been able to get 21 points out of the last 30?

:laughing6: :laughing6:

Just shows what an experienced Championship manager can do with limited resources and an inferior squad to ours in a very short period of time.

If Tan has any idea about football (which he frequently proves is questionable) he would be looking to bring in a manager like Warnock if he really is serious about promotion next season.

Spot on,

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sat Apr 16, 2016 7:50 pm

Spot on

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sat Apr 16, 2016 9:20 pm

Another thing keeping a team up, but it's getting them up. Fans can continue to go on and on about Warnock but the likelihood is Slade will be here for another year and Warnock will either continue at Rotherham or retire.

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 11:55 am

Rydogsccfc wrote::sleepy2:


Just think.

If Warnock was our manager you'd have someone else you could change your opinion of two or three times a season, depending upon results of course.

:thumbup:

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 12:17 pm

davids wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote::sleepy2:


Just think.

If Warnock was our manager you'd have someone else you could change your opinion of two or three times a season, depending upon results of course.

:thumbup:


Nope.

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:11 pm

Totally different managers hardly fair to try and compare their syles or their abilities to get teams promoted!!

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:13 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Totally different managers hardly fair to try and compare their syles or their abilities to get teams promoted!!


Keeping a team up and getting a team up are two different things. :thumbup:

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:44 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Totally different managers hardly fair to try and compare their syles or their abilities to get teams promoted!!


Keeping a team up and getting a team up are two different things. :thumbup:


err, i'd stop with this Rydo, Warnock has done both :digging2:

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:49 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Totally different managers hardly fair to try and compare their syles or their abilities to get teams promoted!!


Keeping a team up and getting a team up are two different things. :thumbup:


err, i'd stop with this Rydo, Warnock has done both :digging2:


I think Warnock has past it with getting teams promoted ask Leeds. :thumbup:

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:53 pm

Thomasc it's true the challenges at both ends of the table are different look at Benitez at Newcadtle he's struggling when he is usually challenging at the top of the table and Pulis he can keep a team up but he's not going to get them challenging at the top is he? :thumbup:

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:56 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Totally different managers hardly fair to try and compare their syles or their abilities to get teams promoted!!


Keeping a team up and getting a team up are two different things. :thumbup:


err, i'd stop with this Rydo, Warnock has done both :digging2:


I think Warnock has past it with getting teams promoted ask Leeds. :thumbup:


I guess the answer would be dependent on which club you asked according to that theory, ask Scarborough, Notts County, Huddersfield, Plymouth & the most relevant promotions to Cardiff, QPR & Sheff Utd :thumbup:

I can't agree with asking Leeds after he has done so welll with Rotherham this season :thumbup: Just stick to you think he's past it please

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 1:59 pm

ThomasC wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Totally different managers hardly fair to try and compare their syles or their abilities to get teams promoted!!


Keeping a team up and getting a team up are two different things. :thumbup:


err, i'd stop with this Rydo, Warnock has done both :digging2:


I think Warnock has past it with getting teams promoted ask Leeds. :thumbup:


I guess the answer would be dependent on which club you asked according to that theory, ask Scarborough, Notts County, Huddersfield, Plymouth & the most relevant promotions to Cardiff, QPR & Sheff Utd :thumbup:


Yes but he was younger and hungrier I feel he is just now a mediocre manager who retires every 5 minutes. :thumbup:

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 2:33 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Totally different managers hardly fair to try and compare their syles or their abilities to get teams promoted!!


Keeping a team up and getting a team up are two different things. :thumbup:


err, i'd stop with this Rydo, Warnock has done both :digging2:


I think Warnock has past it with getting teams promoted ask Leeds. :thumbup:

Lmao and Slade has done so well getting teams promoted hasn't he :laughing5:

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:03 pm

darran1927 wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
ThomasC wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Totally different managers hardly fair to try and compare their syles or their abilities to get teams promoted!!


Keeping a team up and getting a team up are two different things. :thumbup:


err, i'd stop with this Rydo, Warnock has done both :digging2:


I think Warnock has past it with getting teams promoted ask Leeds. :thumbup:

Lmao and Slade has done so well getting teams promoted hasn't he :laughing5:


Almost yeah. :lol:

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:29 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Totally different managers hardly fair to try and compare their syles or their abilities to get teams promoted!!


My original post was asking whether anyone thought that Slade would have done as well as Warnock has done at Rotherham.

Warnock - 21 points from the last 30 having just taken over a team in free fall, with someone else's squad which he did not have a transfer window to change, in serious risk of relegation.

Slade - 15 points from the last 30 having had 18 months and two transfer windows (I won't count January due to the embargo although arguably one of our best players all season was signed on loan in January) and a team that is supposed to be challenging for the play-offs.

Forget about their styles or abilities it surely must be clear to all but the most one-eyed that Warnock's experience at Championship level and ability to get average players playing above themselves far exceeds Slade's ability to get a much stronger squad than Rotherham's playing to anywhere near their true potential.

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:40 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:Thomasc it's true the challenges at both ends of the table are different look at Benitez at Newcadtle he's struggling when he is usually challenging at the top of the table and Pulis he can keep a team up but he's not going to get them challenging at the top is he? :thumbup:


You're right. The challenges are different at both ends of the table. It's much more difficult to turn around a season which is going badly and that only highlights what an excellent job Warnock has done since he arrived.

Losing becomes a habit when you're at the bottom and to change that mentality and drag the players with you as you battle to pull clear of the relegation places is not easy, as Benitez is finding out at Newcastle.

But again it comes down to experience - Benitez has never in his managerial career had to battle relegation. He is not used to the pressure in that situation. He's not used to working with less talented footballers, he's unfamiliar with the mentality of players in a relegation battle.

Similarly, Slade has no experience of battling it out at the top end of the Championship. He has no experience of what is needed to gain promotion as he's never been able to achieve it in his entire career.

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:45 pm

davids wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:Thomasc it's true the challenges at both ends of the table are different look at Benitez at Newcadtle he's struggling when he is usually challenging at the top of the table and Pulis he can keep a team up but he's not going to get them challenging at the top is he? :thumbup:


You're right. The challenges are different at both ends of the table. It's much more difficult to turn around a season which is going badly and that only highlights what an excellent job Warnock has done since he arrived.

Losing becomes a habit when you're at the bottom and to change that mentality and drag the players with you as you battle to pull clear of the relegation places is not easy, as Benitez is finding out at Newcastle.

But again it comes down to experience - Benitez has never in his managerial career had to battle relegation. He is not used to the pressure in that situation. He's not used to working with less talented footballers, he's unfamiliar with the mentality of players in a relegation battle.

Similarly, Slade has no experience of battling it out at the top end of the Championship. He has no experience of what is needed to gain promotion as he's never been able to achieve it in his entire career.


Well now Slade has now got championship experience and has made a right fist of it he should be now be given the chance for him to push on again and challenge at the top just need an out and out striker. :thumbup:

Re: Slade v Warnock

Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:50 pm

We will never go up under Slade. Why didn't Lawrence come on yesterday? Totally baffling! Ameobi has disappointed all season.