Leaving the EU would change british football

British football could be radically changed if the UK votes to leave the European Union, according to experts and leading voices in the game.


Thursday 31st March 2016

Some fear so-called Brexit could lead to more than 400 players losing the right to play in the UK, while others say it may give home talent a chance.

The UK will decide if it wants to stay in the EU in a referendum on 23 June.

"Leaving the EU will have a much bigger effect on football than people think," said football agent Rachel Anderson.

"We're talking about half of the Premier League needing work permits.

"The short-term impact would be huge but you could argue it will help in the long term as it could force clubs to concentrate on home-grown talent."

Who is in danger?

Players with an EU passport are currently free to play in the UK. Those without must meet Home Office criteria, the most important being that they are established internationals for leading nations.

Analysis of squads in the first two tiers in England and the Scottish Premiership has revealed a total of 332 players would fail to meet the current standards.

More than 100 Premier League players would be affected with Aston Villa, Newcastle United and Watford facing losing 11 players from their squads, while Championship side Charlton Athletic would need to find 13 replacements.

In fact, only 23 of the 180 non-British EU players currently playing in the Championship would get work permits - and most of those are former internationals from Ireland or Commonwealth nations with British passports.

Remarkably, none of the 53 non-British EU players in the Scottish Premiership would qualify for a permit on the basis of their international career alone.

That is the same situation for 63 non-British EU players in League One and 46 in League Two.

The list of players potentially at risk of losing the right to play in Britain includes two of the undoubted stars of the Premier League season: Leicester City's N'Golo Kante and West Ham's Dimitri Payet, although both played and scored for France this week.

West Ham vice-chairman Karren Brady, the face of the Britain Stronger in Europe campaign, has already written to club bosses throughout the UK warning them a vote to leave would have "devastating consequences".

But supporters of the various Leave campaigns have dismissed this as scaremongering, with Brian Monteith of Leave.eu telling the BBC a post-Brexit UK would be able to lower freedom-of-movement restrictions on the rest of the world which would "broaden the talent pool, not reduce it".

Premier League boss Richard Scudamore made it clear in a speech to the Institute of Directors last year that his personal view was that Britain should stay in the EU, the world's largest trading bloc.

However, the Premier League's public position is that EU membership is a matter for voters and it always works with "the government of the day".

What could happen?

Privately, the league believes it is almost impossible to know what the situation regarding overseas players would be if the UK votes to leave. It is a stance shared by the Football Association.

The government, for example, could bring in a quota system similar to former Fifa president Sepp Blatter's "six plus five" idea, or it could indeed open the possibility of doing bilateral deals with the likes of Argentina and Brazil to make it easier for their players to work here.
Prior to this season, players without an EU passport were meant to have played in 75% of their national side's competitive games over the past two years.

This only applied to nations ranked in Fifa's top 70. However, appeals were allowed for talented players from lower-ranked sides as well as players who may have missed international call-ups because of injury.

The new rules, brought in after hard lobbying by the FA, were intended to strike a balance between a club's desire to hire the best available and the need for more openings for young British players.

What are the rules?
◾A player from a top-10 nation only has to have played in 30% of their games in the two years prior to the date of application to be granted a work permit.
◾A player from a nation ranked 11-20 must have played in 45% of international games.
◾That percentage rises to 60% for the next 10 countries, then 75% for nations ranked 31-50.
◾A vote to leave the EU would mean that players from the 27 countries still in the union would need to meet these criteria.

Dr Gregory Ioannidis, a senior law lecturer from Sheffield Hallam University, believes the rules could be relaxed should the UK leave the EU.

If that happened, then he said he did not "envisage any problems for clubs".

However, he added that it may be difficult for such an agreement to be put into place because footballers "are considered workers in law and it may be the case that they cannot be treated as a special category".

Many experts think the work permit rules will be watered down. For example, non-EU countries like Norway and Switzerland have both made concessions to gain access to the single market.
"I would be surprised if those work permit rules were not recalibrated," said Professor Raymond Boyle, from the University of Glasgow.

The sports industry expert added: "Countries such as Switzerland simply make their own rules. My sense is that elite commercial sport will always have the clout to influence rules so that they benefit."

What everybody agrees on, though, is that British football would be in for a period of flux as new rules were decided and clubs rebalanced their squads.

"This could be a positive thing for home-grown players in the longer term," said leading agent Simon Bayliff.

"The downside could be the value of the Premier League decreasing, as its attraction is the collection of foreign stars across many clubs.

"I don't personally believe it will have a huge impact on the biggest names but it could have an effect on the general traffic of non-star international players, which may hurt the league's quality and attractiveness to foreign investors.

"But all this depends on how we Brexit - and that is impossible to predict."



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Here we go again project fear in full swing this time targeting football clubs. In short I'm all for developing home grown talent and a proper work permit system which would stop continental journey men and only allow the real top talent to play in this country.

It is also arguable that any changes would take years to implement as most of the players mentioned are on long term contracts which would have to be honoured and there would never be an overnight exodus of 13 players as in the example of Charlton.

Scaremongering again! But It's good to see Cameron shitting himself.really dunno how anyone can still watch bbc though it's government controlled so all your seeing is What Cameron wants you to see

Here we go again project fear in full swing this time targeting football clubs. In short I'm all for developing home grown talent and a proper work permit system which would stop continental journey men and only allow the real top talent to play in this country.

It is also arguable that any changes would take years to implement as most of the players mentioned are on long term contracts which would have to be honoured and there would never be an overnight exodus of 13 players as in the example of Charlton.

spot on tony as always

It's a NO BRAINER,

Home grown talent would have a far better chance of coming through and their prices would drop and reflect that.

Also only the best foreign talent would come to play making it even better to watch.

Our system then wouldnt be blocked with journeymen and less talented foreign players, giving our talent a much better chance to play

Britain out

Here we go again project fear in full swing this time targeting football clubs. In short I'm all for developing home grown talent and a proper work permit system which would stop continental journey men and only allow the real top talent to play in this country.

It is also arguable that any changes would take years to implement as most of the players mentioned are on long term contracts which would have to be honoured and there would never be an overnight exodus of 13 players as in the example of Charlton.

Totally agree

If this was to happen the younger players will get more game time.This would be for the better of football developing our own youngers and fans would be able to see local kids playing more.

What a surprise! Scaremongering by an agent worried about some of his foreign clients being booted out of Britain so they have less options to make money shocker!

Less overpaid foreign players in the uk! I don't see that as such a bad thing

Mustn't forget all the average journeymen players losing loads of money if we leave! Great for British players though

Manga aside, our foreign EU passport holders hardly get a game anyway. I won't feel sorry for Arsenal either

Leaving the EU would be a very good thing for British football, (and British everything else, for that matter). Young, home grown, players would get a fair chance. Just like BITD. Some foreign players could still be let in, but not too many. The leagues are full of foreign journeymen at the moment. For every Osvaldo Ardilles, or Gianfranco Zola, there are about twenty Andreas Corneliuses, or Etien Velikonjas.

Vote leave!

Scaremongering again! But It's good to see Cameron shitting himself.really dunno how anyone can still watch bbc though it's government controlled so all your seeing is What Cameron wants you to see

That's probably the most absurd thing posted on here. The BBC are left leaning wankers.

Scaremongering again! But It's good to see Cameron shitting himself.really dunno how anyone can still watch bbc though it's government controlled so all your seeing is What Cameron wants you to see

That's probably the most absurd thing posted on here. The BBC are left leaning wankers.

Agree all the media is left wing controlled

Scaremongering again! But It's good to see Cameron shitting himself.really dunno how anyone can still watch bbc though it's government controlled so all your seeing is What Cameron wants you to see

That's probably the most absurd thing posted on here. The BBC are left leaning wankers.

Agree all the media is left wing controlled

Ever read the Daily Mail? Or the Sun? Times, Telegraph, Express etc etc. The media in this country is very right wing apart from the BBC.

However the BBC hate Corbyn, they just like New Labour and see him as a threat to that. They love the EU so are siding with Cameron. I am not a fan of Jeremy Corbyn but they've given him terrible coverage and a week before the Labour leadership voting closed they did the most bias Anti-Corbyn documentary, it was a disgrace from a national broadcaster.

BBC hate the SNP, Corbyn, Tories in general, UKIP and white British men

Scaremongering again! But It's good to see Cameron shitting himself.really dunno how anyone can still watch bbc though it's government controlled so all your seeing is What Cameron wanthttp://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/v ... t=170749es you to see

That's probably the most absurd thing posted on here. The BBC are left leaning wankers.

so your saying they ain't Byast with staying in the e.u? I know they broadcast left views but cmon if you can't see that the government controls some of the things the bbc broadcasts your deluded

If the UK leaves the EU. Would that mean that the home nations won't be able to compete in the euros.

If the UK leaves the EU. Would that mean that the home nations won't be able to compete in the euros.

Plenty of non EU countries play in the European competitions.

Scaremongering again! But It's good to see Cameron shitting himself.really dunno how anyone can still watch bbc though it's government controlled so all your seeing is What Cameron wants you to see

That's probably the most absurd thing posted on here. The BBC are left leaning wankers.

Agree all the media is left wing controlled

Ever read the Daily Mail? Or the Sun? Times, Telegraph, Express etc etc. The media in this country is very right wing apart from the BBC.

However the BBC hate Corbyn, they just like New Labour and see him as a threat to that. They love the EU so are siding with Cameron. I am not a fan of Jeremy Corbyn but they've given him terrible coverage and a week before the Labour leadership voting closed they did the most bias Anti-Corbyn documentary, it was a disgrace from a national broadcaster.

BBC hate the SNP, Corbyn, Tories in general, UKIP and white British men

Agree with the BBC is left but sky news ,channel 4 ,channel 5 all very left wing coverage of the migrant crises channel 4 even made up stories and paid migrants

If the UK leaves the EU. Would that mean that the home nations won't be able to compete in the euros.

Plenty of non EU countries play in the European competitions.

Exactly

The Premier League generates hundreds of millions for the British economy.

Another reason to vote to stay in. Or you can listen to Farage and Boris

The Premier League generates hundreds of millions for the British economy.

Another reason to vote to stay in. Or you can listen to Farage and Boris

Is there ment to be an argument to stay in in your words lol

The Premier League generates hundreds of millions for the British economy.

Another reason to vote to stay in. Or you can listen to Farage and Boris

Is there ment to be an argument to stay in in your words lol

Yes, we go out of the EU and we lose what makes the Premier League attractive. Promising players won't come here and develop into world stars. Millions will be lost.

The Premier League generates hundreds of millions for the British economy.

Another reason to vote to stay in. Or you can listen to Farage and Boris

Is there ment to be an argument to stay in in your words lol

Yes, we go out of the EU and we lose what makes the Premier League attractive. Promising players won't come here and develop into world stars. Millions will be lost.

Why wouldn't they come here then ? Your speaking tosh money talks, do you honestly think that the best players won't come here just coz we leave the EU?, it doesn't mean that everything stops how do players come from outside the eu now then ? Most 9f the best players in the premier league aren't European they are south American

The Premier League generates hundreds of millions for the British economy.

Another reason to vote to stay in. Or you can listen to Farage and Boris

Is there ment to be an argument to stay in in your words lol

Yes, we go out of the EU and we lose what makes the Premier League attractive. Promising players won't come here and develop into world stars. Millions will be lost.

Why wouldn't they come here then ? Your speaking tosh money talks, do you honestly think that the best players won't come here just coz we leave the EU?, it doesn't mean that everything stops how do players come from outside the eu now then ? Most 9f the best players in the premier league aren't European they are south American

It's a fact that the top YOUNG players won't come here as they won't have the amount of caps needed.

What promising stars? most are over paid journeymen or established stars! very rare to have a young up and coming star player from Europe come here?

The Premier League generates hundreds of millions for the British economy.

Another reason to vote to stay in. Or you can listen to Farage and Boris

Is there ment to be an argument to stay in in your words lol

Yes, we go out of the EU and we lose what makes the Premier League attractive. Promising players won't come here and develop into world stars. Millions will be lost.

Why wouldn't they come here then ? Your speaking tosh money talks, do you honestly think that the best players won't come here just coz we leave the EU?, it doesn't mean that everything stops how do players come from outside the eu now then ? Most 9f the best players in the premier league aren't European they are south American

Football was pretty exciting before we joined the common market, and the attendance figures were impressive as well. England were world champions, and Celtic & Man Utd had won the European cup. The Premier League is not all good, it has introduced greedy agents, ridiculous wages, and made it very expensive for the ordinary football fan. Football can be entertaining without loads of foreign players having to be in the English club sides.

Scaremongering again! But It's good to see Cameron shitting himself.really dunno how anyone can still watch bbc though it's government controlled so all your seeing is What Cameron wanthttp://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/v ... t=170749es you to see

That's probably the most absurd thing posted on here. The BBC are left leaning wankers.

so your saying they ain't Byast with staying in the e.u? I know they broadcast left views but cmon if you can't see that the government controls some of the things the bbc broadcasts your deluded

The BBC have a leftwing bias, a former DG admitted as much, I absolutely despise them but to be fair their coverage of the EU debate has been, in the main, balanced. I'm sure Cameron would love to control our national broadcaster but truth is he doesn't, do you think he ok'd the numerous references to him sticking his knob in a dead pigs gob?

You're 100% right about the London media being anti-Brexit, anti-Welsh and anti-working class...