Time to show our support for Port Talbot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOcxhfc_4_k

Boro sang this song about Cameron down at the ccs earlier this season. How about 28,000 home fans sing it in Saturday to show our support for port talbot and its steelworks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOcxhfc_4_k

Boro sang this song about Cameron down at the ccs earlier this season. How about 28,000 home fans sing it in Saturday to show our support for port talbot and its steelworks.

City fans should organise this ASAP

At BORO v CARDIFF CITY THIS SEASON

BORO FANS

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Good idea

Let's hope something is sorted out ASAP

I would never defend David Cameron but on this issue it's not actually his fault as he is not head of the Chinese Government or sits on the TATA board.

However, he must act now to save British Steel Making and failure to take the industry back into public ownership will prove that the working class simply don't count. The Government (although a Labour one) didn't hesitate to nationalise the banks which were described as a vital national asset. Well so is the steel industry over to you Cameron.

The steel works arent vital though as we are getting it from china....

If the Business Minister is a reflection of the governments will they they can expect little more than sympathetic noises.I can't imagine our country without a steel industry but I won't be imagining much longer it seems.I must admit though I'm not sure what can be done.

I would never defend David Cameron but on this issue it's not actually his fault as he is not head of the Chinese Government or sits on the TATA board.

However, he must act now to save British Steel Making and failure to take the industry back into public ownership will prove that the working class simply don't count. The Government (although a Labour one) didn't hesitate to nationalise the banks which were described as a vital national asset. Well so is the steel industry over to you Cameron.

Totally agree with this, as sad as it is when these things happen people look to blame. Granted things can be done with regards energy costs and the government have said they are open to ideas. But any business losing a million a day is sadly not going to turn it around no matter how much help it is given.

Port Talbot is not Westminster or David Camerons issue, but the responsibility of the silent Welsh Assembly.

Ideas to renationalise the industry show a lack of knowledge of the European Union and typical point scoring to gullible people, by the labour party. It is against the European Union rules, as Italy tried the same thing and have now had to sell off the steel works or close them down. Italian tax payers could be left with massive redundancy payments to fund.

If everybody was prepared to buy products made only with British steel then that could help the industry, but who is prepared to add £1000's to the cost of a car? It is time to put your money in or keep quiet. Vey sad but true.

The industry is finished due to high costs (power, wages etc) compared to China. The European Union is not protecting these British jobs is it?
These are the realities of the modern global market.

The EU failed to protect us from the cheap Chinese steel - they had a vote on the tariff they would tax China and opted for the minimum tariff, had they opted to slap a high import tax on the Chinese this would never have happened. Yet another reason to leave the EU, if we weren't a member we could have taxed Chinese steel what we like to protect Tata.

The problem is now how can the government justify buying the business when it's losing £1m per day? Even paying 15,000 unemployment benefits doesn't come to a fraction of this cost.

Port Talbot is not Westminster or David Camerons issue, but the responsibility of the silent Welsh Assembly.

Ideas to renationalise the industry show a lack of knowledge of the European Union and typical point scoring to gullible people, by the labour party. It is against the European Union rules, as Italy tried the same thing and have now had to sell off the steel works or close them down. Italian tax payers could be left with massive redundancy payments to fund.

If everybody was prepared to buy products made only with British steel then that could help the industry, but who is prepared to add £1000's to the cost of a car? It is time to put your money in or keep quiet. Vey sad but true.

The industry is finished due to high costs (power, wages etc) compared to China. The European Union is not protecting these British jobs is it?
These are the realities of the modern global market.

Correct the Welsh Assembly which costs us over a £100million to run and achieve nothing.

Unfortunately thats life

Many many people are made redundant and get no publicity whatsoever

They will be paid until the end of the week

These people will get a good pension and good pay off

Steel is cheaper to produce elsewhere - i don't understand why taxpayers have to bail them out

Its our fault that Tata cant compete, we want cheaper cars, washing machines etc etc so the manufacturing companies either take the work abroad to cut labour costs or import cheap materials to lower manufacturing cost.
The same happened with the coal industry, we all wanted cheaper electricity bills so we import chineese coal at £28 a ton instead of british coal at £40 a ton.

I used to buy steel for work and I was in a South Wales stockist waiting to get loaded up, in their yard some of their steel had came in from China, thing is they are buying up British scrap hauling it halfway round the planet then hauling the finished product all the way back to Wales. How the hell can they still undercut us, is it because their government is massively subsidising transport costs.

I feel sorry for the people losing their jobs obviously but there's nothing our government can do to save our steel industry without reducing the wages of the workers, even that won't make a dent in the million pound a day losses. Those calling for nationalising the industry are deluded sadly.

I don't blame Tata for closing it at all. What needs to happen now is another industry has to move in. That's difficult but the Welsh Assembly can pay companies to move here, they did recently. The steel industry is dead in this country and there's no way to save it.

Port Talbot is not Westminster or David Camerons issue, but the responsibility of the silent Welsh Assembly.

Ideas to renationalise the industry show a lack of knowledge of the European Union and typical point scoring to gullible people, by the labour party. It is against the European Union rules, as Italy tried the same thing and have now had to sell off the steel works or close them down. Italian tax payers could be left with massive redundancy payments to fund.

If everybody was prepared to buy products made only with British steel then that could help the industry, but who is prepared to add £1000's to the cost of a car? It is time to put your money in or keep quiet. Vey sad but true.

The industry is finished due to high costs (power, wages etc) compared to China. The European Union is not protecting these British jobs is it?
These are the realities of the modern global market.

Correct the Welsh Assembly which costs us over a £100million to run and achieve nothing.

That's just bullshit.

After reading some of the comments its obvious some people are deluded. I my self work in port Talbot steel works and have a good picture of whats going on. The whole steel industry is struggling at the moment. China and Russia have been deliberately dumping steel on the UK market to put the UK industry out of business.

Why?? its simple! Once the UK cannot produce its own steel these state sponsored steel works can charge the UK whatever they want. This cheap steel will not always be cheap, its business! You can expect the price of everything from infrastructure projects, cars, trains, washing machines, buildings to baked bean tins to go through the roof in price!

what has our Government done? Our government have blocked tariffs on Chinese steel, they have slapped green taxes on us and not given us a level playing field. Our energy costs are 4 times the rest of Europe! the million pound loss a day is off PREDICTED profits. So if you are expected to make 2 million a day and only make 1 million this is classed as a 1 million loss.(propaganda)

And lastly tata have used us to get the technology to run and open their own plants in India. They do not need us any more.

Tata employ 8,000 directly in Wales and there are another 16,000 jobs in Wales that are connected to it! PLEASE SHOW YOUR SUPPORT!

SAVE OUR STEEL!

After reading some of the comments its obvious some people are deluded. I my self work in port Talbot steel works and have a good picture of whats going on. The whole steel industry is struggling at the moment. China and Russia have been deliberately dumping steel on the UK market to put the UK industry out of business.

Why?? its simple! Once the UK cannot produce its own steel these state sponsored steel works can charge the UK whatever they want. This cheap steel will not always be cheap, its business! You can expect the price of everything from infrastructure projects, cars, trains, washing machines, buildings to baked bean tins to go through the roof in price!

what has our Government done? Our government have blocked tariffs on Chinese steel, they have slapped green taxes on us and not given us a level playing field. Our energy costs are 4 times the rest of Europe! the million pound loss a day is off PREDICTED profits. So if you are expected to make 2 million a day and only make 1 million this is classed as a 1 million loss.(propaganda)

And lastly tata have used us to get the technology to run and open their own plants in India. They do not need us any more.

Tata employ 8,000 directly in Wales and there are another 16,000 jobs in Wales that are connected to it! PLEASE SHOW YOUR SUPPORT!

SAVE OUR STEEL!

If it's not losing a million a day and making money then I expect a buyer will be found. Green taxes are a joke and they should be removed. Perhaps the government could introduce reductions on energy costs for industries like steel.

Nationalising it is not an option and would be a very silly precedent to set. Increasing tariffs on Chinese steel would be daft as well, like it or not they huge economic players and if the UK is to continue to flourish we need to keep them sweet.

After reading some of the comments its obvious some people are deluded. I my self work in port Talbot steel works and have a good picture of whats going on. The whole steel industry is struggling at the moment. China and Russia have been deliberately dumping steel on the UK market to put the UK industry out of business.

Why?? its simple! Once the UK cannot produce its own steel these state sponsored steel works can charge the UK whatever they want. This cheap steel will not always be cheap, its business! You can expect the price of everything from infrastructure projects, cars, trains, washing machines, buildings to baked bean tins to go through the roof in price!

what has our Government done? Our government have blocked tariffs on Chinese steel, they have slapped green taxes on us and not given us a level playing field. Our energy costs are 4 times the rest of Europe! the million pound loss a day is off PREDICTED profits. So if you are expected to make 2 million a day and only make 1 million this is classed as a 1 million loss.(propaganda)

And lastly tata have used us to get the technology to run and open their own plants in India. They do not need us any more.

Tata employ 8,000 directly in Wales and there are another 16,000 jobs in Wales that are connected to it! PLEASE SHOW YOUR SUPPORT!

SAVE OUR STEEL!

Finally, someone with sense and also obvious knowledge, reading this thread had started to make me despair.

After reading some of the comments its obvious some people are deluded. I my self work in port Talbot steel works and have a good picture of whats going on. The whole steel industry is struggling at the moment. China and Russia have been deliberately dumping steel on the UK market to put the UK industry out of business.

Why?? its simple! Once the UK cannot produce its own steel these state sponsored steel works can charge the UK whatever they want. This cheap steel will not always be cheap, its business! You can expect the price of everything from infrastructure projects, cars, trains, washing machines, buildings to baked bean tins to go through the roof in price!

what has our Government done? Our government have blocked tariffs on Chinese steel, they have slapped green taxes on us and not given us a level playing field. Our energy costs are 4 times the rest of Europe! the million pound loss a day is off PREDICTED profits. So if you are expected to make 2 million a day and only make 1 million this is classed as a 1 million loss.(propaganda)

And lastly tata have used us to get the technology to run and open their own plants in India. They do not need us any more.

Tata employ 8,000 directly in Wales and there are another 16,000 jobs in Wales that are connected to it! PLEASE SHOW YOUR SUPPORT!

SAVE OUR STEEL!

I'm 100% behind you and will give my full support to your workers. I have many friends at the works and I've lived in Port Talbot all my life.

SAVE OUR STEEL.

After reading some of the comments its obvious some people are deluded. I my self work in port Talbot steel works and have a good picture of whats going on. The whole steel industry is struggling at the moment. China and Russia have been deliberately dumping steel on the UK market to put the UK industry out of business.

Why?? its simple! Once the UK cannot produce its own steel these state sponsored steel works can charge the UK whatever they want. This cheap steel will not always be cheap, its business! You can expect the price of everything from infrastructure projects, cars, trains, washing machines, buildings to baked bean tins to go through the roof in price!

what has our Government done? Our government have blocked tariffs on Chinese steel, they have slapped green taxes on us and not given us a level playing field. Our energy costs are 4 times the rest of Europe! the million pound loss a day is off PREDICTED profits. So if you are expected to make 2 million a day and only make 1 million this is classed as a 1 million loss.(propaganda)

And lastly tata have used us to get the technology to run and open their own plants in India. They do not need us any more.

Tata employ 8,000 directly in Wales and there are another 16,000 jobs in Wales that are connected to it! PLEASE SHOW YOUR SUPPORT!

SAVE OUR STEEL!

Absolutely bang on the money. Our government have not done a thing

You can do fly flags etc as it'll do no good. The EU dictates our laws and every single worker and family in Wales will be unemployed but don't worry as leaving the EU will mean these Welsh workers losing their jobs.

Come june then vote to stay in otherwise you'll be jobless

What show support?
They didn't stick up for the miners in the 80s. They scabbed. They were even smirking as they walked through picket lines.
They are now reaping what they sown in the 80s.

What show support?
They didn't stick up for the miners in the 80s. They scabbed. They were even smirking as they walked through picket lines.
They are now reaping what they sown in the 80s.

Get your tin (made from cheap Chinese steel) hat on mate, this will not go down well!

I have heard this said a few times, many old miners are saying "what goes around comes around".

What show support?
They didn't stick up for the miners in the 80s. They scabbed. They were even smirking as they walked through picket lines.
They are now reaping what they sown in the 80s.

Get your tin (made from cheap Chinese steel) hat on mate, this will not go down well!

I have heard this said a few times, many old miners are saying "what goes around comes around".

Sorry mate, I know many people wont like my quote but I know how hard it was for the miners. We were on the brink of losing our house. There was no support for the miners from the steel industry which was badly needed.

Steel industry had its own fight in the 70s and 80s.

The argument could be made both ways.

'Did the miners support the steelworkers'

Tens of thousands made redundant, both my grandfathers with 40 years each in the steelworks made redundant, as was my father. My Great grandfather died at East Moors.

Not a time for point scoring or looking back.
Irrespective of the politics, steel making is strategically important for this country.

It takes weeks to shut a plant and years to restart it.

Anything that can be done to save PT and the other sites at risk must be considered.

Good post, I was a miner from 1974 and fully supported saving jobs and our communities and was proud to be on strike to fight for those principles. The steelworkers never supported the miners, but like you said there is no time for points scoring. Port talbot is my town and I fully support the nationalisation of the steel industry. I have e mailed my mp to lodge my feelings. Would be great to follow what boro did. Come on city fans, we're in this together.

Good post, I was a miner from 1974 and fully supported saving jobs and our communities and was proud to be on strike to fight for those principles. The steelworkers never supported the miners, but like you said there is no time for points scoring. Port talbot is my town and I fully support the nationalisation of the steel industry. I have e mailed my mp to lodge my feelings. Would be great to follow what boro did. Come on city fans, we're in this together.

Miners had an alliance with the steel workers but when the steel had a good deal they went back to work. Remember the Wales football message TOGETHER STRONGER. I'm sure if they stuck together with the miners then there would be pits going today as there's still plenty of coal in Wales.

Good post, I was a miner from 1974 and fully supported saving jobs and our communities and was proud to be on strike to fight for those principles. The steelworkers never supported the miners, but like you said there is no time for points scoring. Port talbot is my town and I fully support the nationalisation of the steel industry. I have e mailed my mp to lodge my feelings. Would be great to follow what boro did. Come on city fans, we're in this together.

Miners had an alliance with the steel workers but when the steel had a good deal they went back to work. Remember the Wales football message TOGETHER STRONGER. I'm sure if they stuck together with the miners then there would be pits going today as there's still plenty of coal in Wales.

Miners must feel bad about it but I agree, we need to keep the steel industry, the World will change and it will be back in demand in future years. We should tax imported steel and subsidise Brittish steel for the next five years at least....