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' MALKY MACKAY '

Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:25 pm

BBC

Tuesday March 15th

Malky Mackay has been touring Europe and beyond. There were stops in San Sebastián, Liverpool, Manchester, Bavaria, San Diego, Hereford, London and, then, a brief visit to Glasgow.

He was invited to Sunday's Scottish League Cup final at Hampden, mixing with a number of football guests, including David Moyes, Alex Neil, and Gary Caldwell. Mackay built his managerial career in England, but Scotland remains an important part of his identity.

He wants to return to management, to the "sharp end" of the game. There have been offers, too, from north and south of the border. Mackay wants to work at a club that has a "good, sensible plan" for its future, but is also conscious that his departure from Cardiff City and the revelation of inappropriate text messages with the club's former sporting director Iain Moody has left its mark on his reputation.

That is the background to his spell of "re-educating" himself. He voluntarily underwent equality and diversity training, as well as spending time writing a detailed document of how he would manage a club - a leather-bound copy would be part of his approach to landing a job.

So where would Mackay like to return to management? He will not set any restrictions, although he does admit that the dream job would be at Celtic.

"I'm an ex-Celtic player, I'm an eastender, I lived in Baillieston, so it's 10 minutes from the club. I know the fabric of the football club and know the history," Mackay said.

"Of course it is [the dream job], it's a fabulous club. But I'm loathed to talk about specific clubs, particularly when managers are in place, because it happened to me.

"It's not nice when you hear vultures touting for your job, that has a lack of class. Why would Celtic and Rangers not be the two jobs in Scottish football that a Scotsman would want?

"If getting back in was [solely] the case, I would have done that in the last 18 months, five or six times. It's got to be something you think is the environment you want to work in.

"It's about me wanting to prove myself again, picking myself up and putting my proposal in front of a board of directors or an owner: 'this is how I run a football club, the training ground, recruitment, the year's training plan - the daily, weekly monthly schedule'.

"It would be about who I'm working with. Is it someone you think has a good, sensible plan for the football club? Is that a base that you think you can work from? Otherwise, you're in and out of football again."

Mackay spent nine months out of the game after details emerged of text messages with Moody that contained discriminatory language. Mackay accepts his mistake, while pointing out that of thousands of text messages, he was involved in three.

The Football Association launched an investigation and released a statement last year that revealing that no disciplinary action would be taken against Mackay and Moody. The FA added that the investigation has been lengthened "due to serious concerns about the circumstances in which particular evidence had been given and the reliability and completeness of that evidence."

The further inquiries involved "liaison with external law enforcement agencies." Mackay feels exonerated, with the investigation also concluding that neither he nor Moody acted in a discriminatory manner during their time at Cardiff.

"You make mistakes, things you say that you shouldn't. It was the wrong thing," Mackay says.

"The FA have put a statement out, and they decided that there were other avenues they needed to investigate. I would say to people, read that, read it again, and read it for a third time.

"Everyone has problems and life and it's about what you do about it. It's working hard.

"It's not that all of a sudden you lack talent, it's about belief in your own ability and making yourself better. You could sit in a hole and be bitter your whole life.


Mackay led Cardiff City to promotion to the English Premier League in 2013.

"I've gone on from that now and I've put that time behind me. I've had good people around me and strong backers in football. You learn from experiences."

Mackay spent time with Moyes at Real Sociedad, Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool, Tony Strudwick - who developed Manchester United's sports science approach to injury prevention - and a spell at Inglostadt, the Bundesliga club.

The SAS also invited him to their training base at Hereford, where he previously took his Cardiff players and coaches, to talk about crisis management in football, and he visited the San Diego Chargers' training ground. In London, he spent time with Ray Kelvin, a friend and the owner of the retailer Ted Baker, to talk about management.

Mackay has offered his own counsel, too, speaking regularly to his friend and former Watford colleague, Mark Warburton, who he believes will cope with the challenge of his first Old Firm game as Rangers manager next month.

"He's a good man. Mark came up the hard way and decided one day to give himself a two-year-plan to leave this job and [follow] dream of being involved in football," Mackay said.

"We became good friends. I saw there was a passion to be involved in football, but I saw the way he wanted to play, the way he dealt with people, the respect he had for people."

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:39 pm

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Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Tue Mar 15, 2016 8:56 pm

Found this bit interesting :

The FA added that the investigation has been lengthened "due to serious concerns about the circumstances in which particular evidence had been given and the reliability and completeness of that evidence."

The further inquiries involved "liaison with external law enforcement agencies." Mackay feels exonerated, with the investigation also concluding that neither he nor Moody acted in a discriminatory manner during their time at Cardiff.

"You make mistakes, things you say that you shouldn't. It was the wrong thing," Mackay says.

"The FA have put a statement out, and they decided that there were other avenues they needed to investigate. I would say to people, read that, read it again, and read it for a third time.

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:06 pm

Hope he finds something soon :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:47 pm

f**k him the red loving, money wasting, ass hole.

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:54 pm

Go get him Vincent !
My Fav Cardiff City manager in a long time

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:07 pm

Double G wrote:Go get him Vincent !
My Fav Cardiff City manager in a long time

:thumbup:

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:09 pm

Double G wrote:Go get him Vincent !
My Fav Cardiff City manager in a long time

Played the fans like mugs

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:42 pm

One of the best managers we've ever had. Simple as!

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Tue Mar 15, 2016 10:50 pm

BlueSince1908 wrote:
Double G wrote:Go get him Vincent !
My Fav Cardiff City manager in a long time

Played the fans like mugs



And then your saviour ole came along lol

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Tue Mar 15, 2016 11:06 pm

BlueSince1908 wrote:
Double G wrote:Go get him Vincent !
My Fav Cardiff City manager in a long time

Played the fans like mugs

Agree

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:26 am

BlueSince1908 wrote:
Double G wrote:Go get him Vincent !
My Fav Cardiff City manager in a long time

Played the fans like mugs




Sadly, despite the good he did in getting us promoted, I agree with the above! :thumbup: :cry:

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 4:17 am

Great manager here. Hope he finds a new club in the top end of English football soon. :thumbright:

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:50 am

He is saying all the right things to get himself the gig at Paedo FC, I know all about the clubs traditions, I was brought up in the East End of Glasgow, dream job etc.

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 7:56 am

You can all say what you want, Malky is down in history as one of Cardiff City's most successful managers ever and for that I thank him :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:38 am

I can forgive Malky for making a mistake on SMS's. He seems to have matured and put that right. For sure it is a mistake he will never ever make again. Time for people to drop it now and let the fella get on.

However, the issue with his dubious Cornelius transfer has never been fully explained. Honestly what club would ever put Malky in charge of transfers with that nightmare transfer on his transfer portfolio.

Also, in retrospect for the amount of money Malky spent the quality of football under Malky was pretty pathetic. A few decent performances but really it was mundane stuff. If you really look at the year we got promoted we played pretty awful football and we really pushed on when we brought in Campbell. If Malky had spent very little and had to wheel and deal I could have accepted that and also accepted the shitty football being played. That wasn't the case though and I am amazed people accepted the low quality of football he served up just because it was successful..

I am happy Malky will soon be getting back in the game and has learnt his lesson from the SMS. I also hope he has also learnt that if you spunk away that much money the football quality really needs to be a lot higher.

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:55 am

Forever Blue wrote:You can all say what you want, Malky is down in history as one of Cardiff City's most successful managers ever and for that I thank him :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :bluebird:


:thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:33 am

AfricanBluebird wrote:I can forgive Malky for making a mistake on SMS's. He seems to have matured and put that right. For sure it is a mistake he will never ever make again. Time for people to drop it now and let the fella get on.

However, the issue with his dubious Cornelius transfer has never been fully explained. Honestly what club would ever put Malky in charge of transfers with that nightmare transfer on his transfer portfolio.

Also, in retrospect for the amount of money Malky spent the quality of football under Malky was pretty pathetic. A few decent performances but really it was mundane stuff. If you really look at the year we got promoted we played pretty awful football and we really pushed on when we brought in Campbell. If Malky had spent very little and had to wheel and deal I could have accepted that and also accepted the shitty football being played. That wasn't the case though and I am amazed people accepted the low quality of football he served up just because it was successful..

I am happy Malky will soon be getting back in the game and has learnt his lesson from the SMS. I also hope he has also learnt that if you spunk away that much money the football quality really needs to be a lot higher.


Great post and sums up brilliantly how I feel on the subject. The texts to Moody were stupid but are not conclusive proof MM is a racist and in fairness to him he has accepted responsibility and taken steps to correct his behaviour.

Of more concern is rightly the Cornelius transfer. How can anyone justify spending such a huge amount of money on transfer fees and wages for a League 1 standard player? If the FA are extending their investigation and involving external law enforcement agencies then I hope its into this transfer which frankly defies belief.

AfricanBluebird your observation of the football on offer during the promotion season is also totally correct. I can remember posting on here about it and wondering how long fans would put up with it? When you look at Bournemouth who won the Championship with resources similar to what we had in 2013, they went up playing a brand of entertaining attacking football which was the total opposite to the defensive crap we put up with just so we could get to the PL.

Despite all of that I do hope MM gets a job in football again and continues to learn the lessons of his mistakes at Cardiff City. He did give us 2 great seasons as manager and I will oddly always remember him for the League Cup Final rather than the promotion.

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:02 am

Tony Blue Williams wrote:
AfricanBluebird wrote:I can forgive Malky for making a mistake on SMS's. He seems to have matured and put that right. For sure it is a mistake he will never ever make again. Time for people to drop it now and let the fella get on.

However, the issue with his dubious Cornelius transfer has never been fully explained. Honestly what club would ever put Malky in charge of transfers with that nightmare transfer on his transfer portfolio.

Also, in retrospect for the amount of money Malky spent the quality of football under Malky was pretty pathetic. A few decent performances but really it was mundane stuff. If you really look at the year we got promoted we played pretty awful football and we really pushed on when we brought in Campbell. If Malky had spent very little and had to wheel and deal I could have accepted that and also accepted the shitty football being played. That wasn't the case though and I am amazed people accepted the low quality of football he served up just because it was successful..

I am happy Malky will soon be getting back in the game and has learnt his lesson from the SMS. I also hope he has also learnt that if you spunk away that much money the football quality really needs to be a lot higher.


Great post and sums up brilliantly how I feel on the subject. The texts to Moody were stupid but are not conclusive proof MM is a racist and in fairness to him he has accepted responsibility and taken steps to correct his behaviour.

Of more concern is rightly the Cornelius transfer. How can anyone justify spending such a huge amount of money on transfer fees and wages for a League 1 standard player? If the FA are extending their investigation and involving external law enforcement agencies then I hope its into this transfer which frankly defies belief.

AfricanBluebird your observation of the football on offer during the promotion season is also totally correct. I can remember posting on here about it and wondering how long fans would put up with it? When you look at Bournemouth who won the Championship with resources similar to what we had in 2013, they went up playing a brand of entertaining attacking football which was the total opposite to the defensive crap we put up with just so we could get to the PL.

Despite all of that I do hope MM gets a job in football again and continues to learn the lessons of his mistakes at Cardiff City. He did give us 2 great seasons as manager and I will oddly always remember him for the League Cup Final rather than the promotion.


What would you like Tan to do with Slade if we get promoted? He can't be trusted to spend a big budget, it prob will be history repeating itself and Tan signings are pants :bluescarf:

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:10 am

Are people still crying about a few text messages he sent in private? Jeeze.

Although it I'd funny how he goes on about touting for jobs and then touts himself for the Celtic job haha

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:19 am

ThomasC wrote:
Tony Blue Williams wrote:
AfricanBluebird wrote:I can forgive Malky for making a mistake on SMS's. He seems to have matured and put that right. For sure it is a mistake he will never ever make again. Time for people to drop it now and let the fella get on.

However, the issue with his dubious Cornelius transfer has never been fully explained. Honestly what club would ever put Malky in charge of transfers with that nightmare transfer on his transfer portfolio.

Also, in retrospect for the amount of money Malky spent the quality of football under Malky was pretty pathetic. A few decent performances but really it was mundane stuff. If you really look at the year we got promoted we played pretty awful football and we really pushed on when we brought in Campbell. If Malky had spent very little and had to wheel and deal I could have accepted that and also accepted the shitty football being played. That wasn't the case though and I am amazed people accepted the low quality of football he served up just because it was successful..

I am happy Malky will soon be getting back in the game and has learnt his lesson from the SMS. I also hope he has also learnt that if you spunk away that much money the football quality really needs to be a lot higher.


Great post and sums up brilliantly how I feel on the subject. The texts to Moody were stupid but are not conclusive proof MM is a racist and in fairness to him he has accepted responsibility and taken steps to correct his behaviour.

Of more concern is rightly the Cornelius transfer. How can anyone justify spending such a huge amount of money on transfer fees and wages for a League 1 standard player? If the FA are extending their investigation and involving external law enforcement agencies then I hope its into this transfer which frankly defies belief.

AfricanBluebird your observation of the football on offer during the promotion season is also totally correct. I can remember posting on here about it and wondering how long fans would put up with it? When you look at Bournemouth who won the Championship with resources similar to what we had in 2013, they went up playing a brand of entertaining attacking football which was the total opposite to the defensive crap we put up with just so we could get to the PL.

Despite all of that I do hope MM gets a job in football again and continues to learn the lessons of his mistakes at Cardiff City. He did give us 2 great seasons as manager and I will oddly always remember him for the League Cup Final rather than the promotion.


What would you like Tan to do with Slade if we get promoted? He can't be trusted to spend a big budget, it prob will be history repeating itself and Tan signings are pants :bluescarf:


Bloody good question :lol: I'm honestly stumped to come up with an answer. Slade's transfer activity when given cash has been poor, but absolutely brilliant when working the loan system (Sammy Ameobi apart).

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 10:50 am

nubbsy wrote:Are people still crying about a few text messages he sent in private? Jeeze.

Although it I'd funny how he goes on about touting for jobs and then touts himself for the Celtic job haha
I was thinking the same we all have a different sense of humour with our closest friends.im just happy that I can say I seen Cardiff in the premier league even if it was a rough time for the club on and off the field :thumbright:

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 11:55 am

tylorstown18891 wrote:
nubbsy wrote:Are people still crying about a few text messages he sent in private? Jeeze.

Although it I'd funny how he goes on about touting for jobs and then touts himself for the Celtic job haha
I was thinking the same we all have a different sense of humour with our closest friends.im just happy that I can say I seen Cardiff in the premier league even if it was a rough time for the club on and off the field :thumbright:




I think with many, including me, it wasn't about the texts per say (daft things happen and we can all regret) but more to do with the way Malky dragged the fans into his battle and played us like a dream ;)

No one can fault what he achieved. Not IMHO the 'best' manager we ever had but certainly up there on the footballing front and that can never be taken away from him! :thumbup:

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:13 pm

Forever Blue wrote:You can all say what you want, Malky is down in history as one of Cardiff City's most successful managers ever and for that I thank him :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :bluebird:

Endorsed the re-brand, said he wouldn't let it happen at Celtic, blah blah blah.
Pisses away £50m in the summer transfer window, asks for more money despite having his own man Iain Moody at the helm in terms of recruitment. Then makes it all about him, please everyone hate the board for not giving me more funds considering I pissed away a chunk of my owners money in the summer

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 12:51 pm

Can’t stand the guy, he always has an excuse or refuses to admit he was wrong. I don’t care what the FA say who let’s be honest are hardly the most respected of organisations.

He did well to get us promoted but I don’t think he is a good manager, he wasted a hell of a lot of money, loved the red and his ego just took over.

The tipping point though was after he was sacked sitting on Soccer Sunday and after them showing highlights of us struggling and being totally lost upfront as we were most of the season, they asked “do you regret signing Cornelius” and his response was “no he is one for the future” seriously, that’s almost the same amount Hull spend staying up, he watches us struggle but his huge ego won’t allow him to admit it was a poor signing or that he is wrong.

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:03 pm

All the best malky lad

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 1:52 pm

So hypothetically if we had not sold Gestade, Campbell for peanuts and paid way over the odds for Cornelius, Velikonja, Macheda,le Fondre,Adeyemi,Ekrem, Begnet we could have kept Caulker, Medel or at the very least Jordon Mutch or Mats Møller Dæhli :o

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:20 pm

T-G-I-ROBINFRIDAY wrote:So hypothetically if we had not sold Gestade, Campbell for peanuts and paid way over the odds for Cornelius, Velikonja, Macheda,le Fondre,Adeyemi,Ekrem, Begnet we could have kept Caulker, Medel or at the very least Jordon Mutch or Mats Møller Dæhli :o


Opps wrong thread

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:05 pm

Still love him :malky:

Re: ' MALKY MACKAY '

Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:42 pm

carlccfc wrote:Found this bit interesting :

The FA added that the investigation has been lengthened "due to serious concerns about the circumstances in which particular evidence had been given and the reliability and completeness of that evidence."

The further inquiries involved "liaison with external law enforcement agencies." Mackay feels exonerated, with the investigation also concluding that neither he nor Moody acted in a discriminatory manner during their time at Cardiff.

"You make mistakes, things you say that you shouldn't. It was the wrong thing," Mackay says.

"The FA have put a statement out, and they decided that there were other avenues they needed to investigate. I would say to people, read that, read it again, and read it for a third time.



Carl Hmmm Very very interesting :thumbright: :thumbright: :ayatollah: :bluebird: :bluebird: