Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
Mon Feb 22, 2016 2:02 am
Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
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Declan John is an academy product of Cardiff City, he made his professional debut in a 2-1 League Cup defeat to Northampton, after that we saw him in a 2-1 FA Cup defeat away at Macclesfield. After those two appearances in the season, we did not see him until August 2013 where surprisingly suspended Andrew Taylor was replaced by John who was making his first competitive league start for the Bluebirds in the clubs first ever Premier League game, a 2-0 defeat at West Ham. Malky Mackay and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer both gave the Welsh U21 international a chance to stake his name in the Bluebirds team.
Declan went on to make a further 22 appearances for Cardiff that season as they were relegated, finishing bottom of the table, exiting the League and FA Cup at early stages with no real cup run. As the Bluebirds were relegated, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer dropped him from his side and placed Fabio Da Silva as his first choice LB, Cardiff led Norwich 2-0 in a Championship fixture but with an injury to Fabio at half time and John brought on, Norwich managed to overturn the deficit and claim a 4-2 victory, a few of those goals were on John’s side with fans turning to the loss of Fabio and the tactics as the reason to why we lost. Solskjaer lost his final game in charge in a 1-0 home defeat to Middlesbrough.
Russell Slade arrived but had barely given John a chance, as the January window drew near he decided on his targets and decided to purchase Millwall left-back Scott Malone as competition for Fabio Da Silva. This left Declan John in the wilderness, he only made six appearances in the 2014/2015 campaign for Cardiff, with only an unsuccessful loan spell at Barnsley deserving any mention. John has barely featured on the substitute’s bench this campaign to the frustration of Bluebirds fans, feeling Malone isn’t good enough to play for us but also have a dilemma in favourite Fabio Da Silva, but they want local talent in the team. Declan John was brought on for a total of four minutes in the away draw at Ipswich, his only minutes for us this campaign. He has now been shipped out to Chesterfield on an initial one month loan deal but this will look to be extended by the Yorkshire side.
I feel that John’s talent is being hampered by the management team, that we are not nurturing young talent enough and that our younger players will look to the treatment of John and feel that it’s impossible to break into the first team. This will put off younger players penning contracts, it will put off parents driving their sons to training and games because we are not doing enough with our younger players. Declan John has two full international caps, he has twenty Premier League appearances to his name. Why is he being left in the lurch? For one he is being played out of position, messageboard ramblings say that John started out as a striker, changed to a winger and was then converted by former manager Malky Mackay into a left-back. Whilst John has played most of his professional career as a left-back, he is quite clearly a left-winger. Cardiff fans can see it and so can Chesterfield fans who in one game have seen the qualities that he possesses. His pace and delivery of the ball shows that he is an out and out winger. Cardiff have been searching for a winger who can possess both traits for some time, with only Craig Noone of note in their current ranks.
We need to make sure that we can keep Declan happy, at the moment I don’t think he is with the Cardiff hierarchy, on social media I have seen tweets of displeasure at John’s exclusion from the side, with family members of his noting them and being equally as frustrated as us. The Merthyr born player hasn’t even been featuring for our development side as of late, whilst manager Slade isn’t a fan of them as such, to have no playing time at all shows that his playing career has been on standby. Manager Russell Slade said that it is important that Declan “doesn’t lose his way” but how can he say that when he’s been partially to blame for that. Stating that “when he is mentally there a good player” but again is he not part of why John is low on confidence? John hasn’t been farmed out to local nearby teams similar to Joe Ralls’ loan move to Yeovil.
Ralls is two years the elder of John but a loan spell at Yeovil done him the world of good where in the next season he claimed a stake to the team and now finds himself as a regular in the midfield of Cardiff City, we could see the qualities he possesses from an early age, similar to John. So why can this not be the case? We must make sure that if we are to farm John out on loan it is to the right team, if he is to stay here then we are fair and giving him an equal opportunity. Slade has a habit of having poor man management with players, with plenty going to the media to say about their time here.
To see a young player like John do that would do Cardiff no good, we need to keep John in the right state of mind, we need to keep his morale happy and we need to play him to our strengths, he is a fantastic player on his day and if we aren’t to spend as much money on players then turning to John would do us no harm.
We have seen before the club have left themselves with younger players, Reagan Poole for example was released from the club and is now on the books of Manchester United, at the age of 17.
Gareth Bale was a left-back by trade but was converted into a winger and then into a central forward. Now the two aren’t nearly the same but as we saw with Bale being allowed to push forward and play to his strengths, he is now a key player to the Welsh national team. John can recreate that in a realistic sense, at his level. He can contribute more to Cardiff City and Wales if he is played in the right position. What I am saying is, we should tie Declan to a new contract as his deal expires in 2018 and begin to see if he can make the grade here because it would be demoralising as a fan who craves to see local talent, thriving at another club.
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Declan John is an academy product of Cardiff City, he made his professional debut in a 2-1 League Cup defeat to Northampton, after that we saw him in a 2-1 FA Cup defeat away at Macclesfield. After those two appearances in the season, we did not see him until August 2013 where surprisingly suspended Andrew Taylor was replaced by John who was making his first competitive league start for the Bluebirds in the clubs first ever Premier League game, a 2-0 defeat at West Ham. Malky Mackay and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer both gave the Welsh U21 international a chance to stake his name in the Bluebirds team.
Declan went on to make a further 22 appearances for Cardiff that season as they were relegated, finishing bottom of the table, exiting the League and FA Cup at early stages with no real cup run. As the Bluebirds were relegated, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer dropped him from his side and placed Fabio Da Silva as his first choice LB, Cardiff led Norwich 2-0 in a Championship fixture but with an injury to Fabio at half time and John brought on, Norwich managed to overturn the deficit and claim a 4-2 victory, a few of those goals were on John’s side with fans turning to the loss of Fabio and the tactics as the reason to why we lost. Solskjaer lost his final game in charge in a 1-0 home defeat to Middlesbrough.
Russell Slade arrived but had barely given John a chance, as the January window drew near he decided on his targets and decided to purchase Millwall left-back Scott Malone as competition for Fabio Da Silva. This left Declan John in the wilderness, he only made six appearances in the 2014/2015 campaign for Cardiff, with only an unsuccessful loan spell at Barnsley deserving any mention. John has barely featured on the substitute’s bench this campaign to the frustration of Bluebirds fans, feeling Malone isn’t good enough to play for us but also have a dilemma in favourite Fabio Da Silva, but they want local talent in the team. Declan John was brought on for a total of four minutes in the away draw at Ipswich, his only minutes for us this campaign. He has now been shipped out to Chesterfield on an initial one month loan deal but this will look to be extended by the Yorkshire side.
I feel that John’s talent is being hampered by the management team, that we are not nurturing young talent enough and that our younger players will look to the treatment of John and feel that it’s impossible to break into the first team. This will put off younger players penning contracts, it will put off parents driving their sons to training and games because we are not doing enough with our younger players. Declan John has two full international caps, he has twenty Premier League appearances to his name. Why is he being left in the lurch? For one he is being played out of position, messageboard ramblings say that John started out as a striker, changed to a winger and was then converted by former manager Malky Mackay into a left-back. Whilst John has played most of his professional career as a left-back, he is quite clearly a left-winger. Cardiff fans can see it and so can Chesterfield fans who in one game have seen the qualities that he possesses. His pace and delivery of the ball shows that he is an out and out winger. Cardiff have been searching for a winger who can possess both traits for some time, with only Craig Noone of note in their current ranks.
We need to make sure that we can keep Declan happy, at the moment I don’t think he is with the Cardiff hierarchy, on social media I have seen tweets of displeasure at John’s exclusion from the side, with family members of his noting them and being equally as frustrated as us. The Merthyr born player hasn’t even been featuring for our development side as of late, whilst manager Slade isn’t a fan of them as such, to have no playing time at all shows that his playing career has been on standby. Manager Russell Slade said that it is important that Declan “doesn’t lose his way” but how can he say that when he’s been partially to blame for that. Stating that “when he is mentally there a good player” but again is he not part of why John is low on confidence? John hasn’t been farmed out to local nearby teams similar to Joe Ralls’ loan move to Yeovil.
Ralls is two years the elder of John but a loan spell at Yeovil done him the world of good where in the next season he claimed a stake to the team and now finds himself as a regular in the midfield of Cardiff City, we could see the qualities he possesses from an early age, similar to John. So why can this not be the case? We must make sure that if we are to farm John out on loan it is to the right team, if he is to stay here then we are fair and giving him an equal opportunity. Slade has a habit of having poor man management with players, with plenty going to the media to say about their time here.
To see a young player like John do that would do Cardiff no good, we need to keep John in the right state of mind, we need to keep his morale happy and we need to play him to our strengths, he is a fantastic player on his day and if we aren’t to spend as much money on players then turning to John would do us no harm.
We have seen before the club have left themselves with younger players, Reagan Poole for example was released from the club and is now on the books of Manchester United, at the age of 17.
Gareth Bale was a left-back by trade but was converted into a winger and then into a central forward. Now the two aren’t nearly the same but as we saw with Bale being allowed to push forward and play to his strengths, he is now a key player to the Welsh national team. John can recreate that in a realistic sense, at his level. He can contribute more to Cardiff City and Wales if he is played in the right position. What I am saying is, we should tie Declan to a new contract as his deal expires in 2018 and begin to see if he can make the grade here because it would be demoralising as a fan who craves to see local talent, thriving at another club.
Re: Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:14 am
Another pointless Gareth Bale Declan John comparison 
Bale started at left back, yes, we know this
Bale started at left back, yes, we know this
Re: Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:55 am
i dont know why people keep saying it to be honest 
Re: Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:10 am
Malone is twice the player John is. He's more than capable at this level.
Malky turned John into a full back because he wasn't good enough as a winger. Barnsley didn't rate him last season, and he's now on loan at Chesterfield who are in the bottom 4 of League One. He's not very good, that's the long and short of it.
Malky turned John into a full back because he wasn't good enough as a winger. Barnsley didn't rate him last season, and he's now on loan at Chesterfield who are in the bottom 4 of League One. He's not very good, that's the long and short of it.
Re: Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:49 am
Is anyone seriously saying that John is worth a place in front of Fabio, Malone, Peltier or even Connolly (when emergency full back) ?
It just so happens that he has a lot of competition and he simply isn't worth a place in the match day squad.
He may prove us wrong but his performances with us and his loan clubs would seem to indicate he has a lot to do to prove himself at this level.
It just so happens that he has a lot of competition and he simply isn't worth a place in the match day squad.
He may prove us wrong but his performances with us and his loan clubs would seem to indicate he has a lot to do to prove himself at this level.
Re: Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:53 am
ThomasC wrote:Another pointless Gareth Bale Declan John comparison
Bale started at left back, yes, we know this
Not a comparison, merely stating that a change in position changed the fortunes of Bale. That in a realistic sense, he will not achieve what Bale has but his game might improve if he is to play as a winger.
Re: Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:53 am
piledriver64 wrote:Is anyone seriously saying that John is worth a place in front of Fabio, Malone, Peltier or even Connolly (when emergency full back) ?
It just so happens that he has a lot of competition and he simply isn't worth a place in the match day squad.
He may prove us wrong but his performances with us and his loan clubs would seem to indicate he has a lot to do to prove himself at this level.
No it's saying that he shouldn't be competing against these players, he should be competing as a winger.
Re: Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:56 am
dont think hes a winger personally.
Re: Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:10 pm
BlueSince1908 wrote:ThomasC wrote:Another pointless Gareth Bale Declan John comparison
Bale started at left back, yes, we know this
Not a comparison, merely stating that a change in position changed the fortunes of Bale. That in a realistic sense, he will not achieve what Bale has but his game might improve if he is to play as a winger.
the same left back performances that warranted a £12mil move to Spurs?
Sorry if i'm struggling to find any correlation between the two. It can be considered he hasn't played well in any position yet
Re: Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:32 pm
BlueSince1908 wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Is anyone seriously saying that John is worth a place in front of Fabio, Malone, Peltier or even Connolly (when emergency full back) ?
It just so happens that he has a lot of competition and he simply isn't worth a place in the match day squad.
He may prove us wrong but his performances with us and his loan clubs would seem to indicate he has a lot to do to prove himself at this level.
No it's saying that he shouldn't be competing against these players, he should be competing as a winger.
Problem is he's still fourth or fifth in terms of wide players as well behind Noone, Ameobi, Pilkington, Kennedy, Whitts, Ralls and Harris all capable. As much as i'd love him to break through there are simply to many bodies in the way at the minute.
He needs to go somewhere and prove himself consistently if he is ever going to leap frog those in front of him and do it either as a winger or a full back.
Being not quite either one or the other is in danger of seriously ruining his career.
Re: Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:46 pm
He needs to prove himself.
From what ive seen not better than what we got.
From what ive seen not better than what we got.
Re: Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:52 pm
I know what I'm about to say may sound naive, and probably isn't relevant, but on the discussion of Gareth Bale. I genuinely think Tom Lawrence looks like he has Bale's Focus/Determination, potential, and already at 22 he has a great amount of ability and can surely only get better...Just think how Old Bale is now compared to Lawrence... What I saw from Lawrence on Saturday made me very optimistic about Wales's future.
Re: Why we must keep Declan John in our plans
Mon Feb 22, 2016 1:55 pm
Savigma wrote:I know what I'm about to say may sound naive, and probably isn't relevant, but on the discussion of Gareth Bale. I genuinely think Tom Lawrence looks like he has Bale's Focus/Determination, potential, and already at 22 he has a great amount of ability and can surely only get better...Just think how Old Bale is now compared to Lawrence... What I saw from Lawrence on Saturday made me very optimistic about Wales's future.
