" VINCENT TAN REVEALS "

As I've said on here many many times. In Tans eyes Slade has done the job he was asked to, keep us in Championship and sell sell sell, to balance the books.


Cardiff City owner Vincent Tan reveals Russell Slade does NOT need to make the play-offs to keep his job

Monday 15th Feb 2016

South Wales Echo


The Bluebirds owner has also called for a wage cap to be introduced in the Championship and Premier League


Cardiff City manager Russell Slade does not need to finish in the top six of the Championship to be kept on next season, Vincent Tan has revealed.

The Bluebirds’ boss sees his contract finish in the summer, with his side currently ninth in the table, five points off the play-off places.

Many assumed Slade would need to at least grab a play-off spot to remain as boss into the next campaign, but billionaire businessman Tan, who watched the Bluebirds’ goalless draw at Charlton on the weekend, said he would consider keeping Slade on even if Cardiff do fall short.


And Tan, who on a trip to Cardiff last week outlined measures to see the club debt free by 2021, admitted he was not sure how long he himself would be involved in the Welsh capital club.

Of course he wants a wage cap implemented in football, he's a businessman. It's why the MLS franchise suits him best

Of course he wants a wage cap implemented in football, he's a businessman. It's why the MLS franchise suits him best

I actually believe FIFA should enforce wage caps worldwide the money players earn for kicking a ball is horrendous and the cost gets added to the fans

Of course he wants a wage cap implemented in football, he's a businessman. It's why the MLS franchise suits him best

I actually believe FIFA should enforce wage caps worldwide the money players earn for kicking a ball is horrendous and the cost gets added to the fans

To think the saved money would go back to fans is delusional. Biggest TV deal in PL history coupled with increased ST pricing should put an end to that notion

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Of course he wants a wage cap implemented in football, he's a businessman. It's why the MLS franchise suits him best

Of even more importance to him (and other owners) in the MLS system is that it takes away the financial risk of relegation.

Of course he wants a wage cap implemented in football, he's a businessman. It's why the MLS franchise suits him best

Of even more importance to him (and other owners) in the MLS system is that it takes away the financial risk of relegation.

Great point, it really is a business model perfect for the investor

I think VT will keep reducing the debt at the club each year until he finds a buyer and he can walk away. I think the club will try to entice fans back next season, not with the promise of PL football, but by reducing season ticket prices. I believe VT has been burnt by the PL and has no desire in getting the club back there to spend millions of pounds again to just try to survive. A far more sensible and pragmatic way will be to make the club financial stable in the Championship and make us a decent championship side who can go on the odd decent cup run each year. VT wants out, I think that is pretty clear, but it looks like he will leave us in pretty good shape financialy and as a decent second tier club. If people want a PL fix then they will need to go West. As far as Slade is concerned, I firmly believe VT is a big Slade fan and it won't surprise me if he at least some rewards Slade with another 2 year contract in the summer for doing such a good job for VT by reducing the wage bill, getting rid of any PL players from the playing staff and keeping us as a reasnobly competertive championship outfit

FFP is a sort of salary cap. With losses limited to £13m (and that's with a generous owner) or £5m without clubs know the have a limit to what they can pay in salaries.

Admittedly it is not the best system but it is bound to start having an effect over the next few seasons.

FFP is a sort of salary cap. With losses limited to £13m (and that's with a generous owner) or £5m without clubs know the have a limit to what they can pay in salaries.

Admittedly it is not the best system but it is bound to start having an effect over the next few seasons.

I think it will work , in general terms , as it settles down as a system over time. Unfortunately though , there will always be one or two clubs who will risk the sanctions arising from overspending in an all out push for promotion to the Premier. The likes of Middlesbrough and Derby will be in serious trouble if they don`t get promoted this season.

Of course he wants a wage cap implemented in football, he's a businessman. It's why the MLS franchise suits him best

I actually believe FIFA should enforce wage caps worldwide the money players earn for kicking a ball is horrendous and the cost gets added to the fans

To think the saved money would go back to fans is delusional. Biggest TV deal in PL history coupled with increased ST pricing should put an end to that notion

Here,here

I have said throughout the season that I have never thought for one minute that promotion was anywhere near the top of Tan's priority list, and that this season was all about an exercise in reducing costs while keeping our Championship status, and nothing more. I have also said numerous times that while Slade may not the manager who can take the club forward, it is not relevant because Tan was not looking to take the club forward as far as promotion was concerned. At the moment, progress for this club is nothing more than maintaining Championship status while slashing the debts and running costs at the same time. Slade is not doing much wrong in that department. Fans may as well used to this, Tan has told us his plans and there is obviously going to be very little money to spend for the next five years. The number one priority during this period will be to avoid relegation, but that won't be easy with so little cash available. I predict tough times ahead as a result of the ridiculous amount of cash squandered by our two previous managers.

I have said throughout the season that I have never thought for one minute that promotion was anywhere near the top of Tan's priority list, and that this season was all about an exercise in reducing costs while keeping our Championship status, and nothing more. I have also said numerous times that while Slade may not the manager who can take the club forward, it is not relevant because Tan was not looking to take the club forward as far as promotion was concerned. At the moment, progress for this club is nothing more than maintaining Championship status while slashing the debts and running costs at the same time. Slade is not doing much wrong in that department. Fans may as well used to this, Tan has told us his plans and there is obviously going to be very little money to spend for the next five years. The number one priority during this period will be to avoid relegation, but that won't be easy with so little cash available. I predict tough times ahead as a result of the ridiculous amount of cash squandered by our two previous managers.

Agree but we will still bring in players but very cheap ones.

I have said throughout the season that I have never thought for one minute that promotion was anywhere near the top of Tan's priority list, and that this season was all about an exercise in reducing costs while keeping our Championship status, and nothing more. I have also said numerous times that while Slade may not the manager who can take the club forward, it is not relevant because Tan was not looking to take the club forward as far as promotion was concerned. At the moment, progress for this club is nothing more than maintaining Championship status while slashing the debts and running costs at the same time. Slade is not doing much wrong in that department. Fans may as well used to this, Tan has told us his plans and there is obviously going to be very little money to spend for the next five years. The number one priority during this period will be to avoid relegation, but that won't be easy with so little cash available. I predict tough times ahead as a result of the ridiculous amount of cash squandered by our two previous managers.

Agree but we will still bring in players but very cheap ones.

Definitely. I said on another post today that Swansea got themselves into the top flight under Toshack by using Liverpool players almost at the end of their careers. Nothing to stop us trying the same sort of thing, and who's to say we won't discover another Ernie or Ramsey to help us on our way.

I have said throughout the season that I have never thought for one minute that promotion was anywhere near the top of Tan's priority list, and that this season was all about an exercise in reducing costs while keeping our Championship status, and nothing more. I have also said numerous times that while Slade may not the manager who can take the club forward, it is not relevant because Tan was not looking to take the club forward as far as promotion was concerned. At the moment, progress for this club is nothing more than maintaining Championship status while slashing the debts and running costs at the same time. Slade is not doing much wrong in that department. Fans may as well used to this, Tan has told us his plans and there is obviously going to be very little money to spend for the next five years. The number one priority during this period will be to avoid relegation, but that won't be easy with so little cash available. I predict tough times ahead as a result of the ridiculous amount of cash squandered by our two previous managers.

Agree but we will still bring in players but very cheap ones.

Definitely. I said on another post today that Swansea got themselves into the top flight under Toshack by using Liverpool players almost at the end of their careers. Nothing to stop us trying the same sort of thing, and who's to say we won't discover another Ernie or Ramsey to help us on our way.

Has been players like you say would be on big wages these days so I don't think that's the answer but about some good youth players coming through why not?

I agree with all the above post, the sooner people realise we are not going for PL, and we are trying to establish ourselves as a tough hard to beat workman like Championship team, the better. If you want fancy Dan Footie drive 48 miles West

I agree with all the above post, the sooner people realise we are not going for PL, and we are trying to establish ourselves as a tough hard to beat workman like Championship team, the better. If you want fancy Dan Footie drive 48 miles West

Oh dear! Might as well all stop going and throw in the towel, then!

Thank you, Job's Comforter!

I agree with all the above post, the sooner people realise we are not going for PL, and we are trying to establish ourselves as a tough hard to beat workman like Championship team, the better. If you want fancy Dan Footie drive 48 miles West

Oh dear! Might as well all stop going and throw in the towel, then!

Thank you, Job's Comforter!

Things are not all bad Sven. I guess you remember the times when we entertained the likes of Barnet, Wrexham, Harlepool, Darlington etc.on a regular basis, and at the time playing second tier football was just a distant dream. The Championship is not a bad league, and at least we are able to compete against some good teams and good players.

What's so bad with the Championship? We have always played in the lower divisions bar once or twice ? The size of club and City are Championship size

I agree with all the above post, the sooner people realise we are not going for PL, and we are trying to establish ourselves as a tough hard to beat workman like Championship team, the better. If you want fancy Dan Footie drive 48 miles West

Oh dear! Might as well all stop going and throw in the towel, then!

Thank you, Job's Comforter!

Things are not all bad Sven. I guess you remember the times when we entertained the likes of Barnet, Wrexham, Harlepool, Darlington etc.on a regular basis, and at the time playing second tier football was just a distant dream. The Championship is not a bad league, and at least we are able to compete against some good teams and good players.

It's not that, Steve. Nothing 'wrong' with the Championship per say

Like you, I was there amongst the VERY low crowds playing those teams you mention, but I always had a 'supporters ambition' for the club and without that we might as well pack up and stay at home!

Under Sam, Riddler and Tan's Watches, it has been proven to be more feasible for us now than it ever was before and I just don't see why it cannot be done? Even with the 'reduced budget' under the 'new' Vincent Tan, we are still sitting pretty as a Championship side and (with the right manager) should be seriously pushing for promotion

Remember, Dave Jones had less to work with and (currently) achieved more!

I agree with all the above post, the sooner people realise we are not going for PL, and we are trying to establish ourselves as a tough hard to beat workman like Championship team, the better. If you want fancy Dan Footie drive 48 miles West

Oh dear! Might as well all stop going and throw in the towel, then!

Thank you, Job's Comforter!

Things are not all bad Sven. I guess you remember the times when we entertained the likes of Barnet, Wrexham, Harlepool, Darlington etc.on a regular basis, and at the time playing second tier football was just a distant dream. The Championship is not a bad league, and at least we are able to compete against some good teams and good players.

It's not that, Steve. Nothing 'wrong' with the Championship per say

Like you, I was there amongst the VERY low crowds playing those teams you mention, but I always had a 'supporters ambition' for the club and without that we might as well pack up and stay at home!

Under Sam, Riddler and Tan's Watches, it has been proven to be more feasible for us now than it ever was before and I just don't see why it cannot be done? Even with the 'reduced budget' under the 'new' Vincent Tan, we are still sitting pretty as a Championship side and (with the right manager) should be seriously pushing for promotion

Remember, Dave Jones had less to work with and (currently) achieved more!

Agree with all that.
I think if the club renew Slades contract it wil be a huge mistake , the club are obviously aware that alot of fans don't like Slade's football so renewing his contract I feel would stop fans from renewing season tickets. I personally think it's best if we just thank Slade for the job he's done and both go our seperate ways.

I agree with all the above post, the sooner people realise we are not going for PL, and we are trying to establish ourselves as a tough hard to beat workman like Championship team, the better. If you want fancy Dan Footie drive 48 miles West

Oh dear! Might as well all stop going and throw in the towel, then!

Thank you, Job's Comforter!

Things are not all bad Sven. I guess you remember the times when we entertained the likes of Barnet, Wrexham, Harlepool, Darlington etc.on a regular basis, and at the time playing second tier football was just a distant dream. The Championship is not a bad league, and at least we are able to compete against some good teams and good players.

It's not that, Steve. Nothing 'wrong' with the Championship per say

Like you, I was there amongst the VERY low crowds playing those teams you mention, but I always had a 'supporters ambition' for the club and without that we might as well pack up and stay at home!

Under Sam, Riddler and Tan's Watches, it has been proven to be more feasible for us now than it ever was before and I just don't see why it cannot be done? Even with the 'reduced budget' under the 'new' Vincent Tan, we are still sitting pretty as a Championship side and (with the right manager) should be seriously pushing for promotion

Remember, Dave Jones had less to work with and (currently) achieved more!

Agree with all that.
I think if the club renew Slades contract it wil be a huge mistake , the club are obviously aware that alot of fans don't like Slade's football so renewing his contract I feel would stop fans from renewing season tickets. I personally think it's best if we just thank Slade for the job he's done and both go our seperate ways.

If they have sense that's what should happen.

I agree with all the above post, the sooner people realise we are not going for PL, and we are trying to establish ourselves as a tough hard to beat workman like Championship team, the better. If you want fancy Dan Footie drive 48 miles West

Oh dear! Might as well all stop going and throw in the towel, then!

Thank you, Job's Comforter!

Things are not all bad Sven. I guess you remember the times when we entertained the likes of Barnet, Wrexham, Harlepool, Darlington etc.on a regular basis, and at the time playing second tier football was just a distant dream. The Championship is not a bad league, and at least we are able to compete against some good teams and good players.

It's not that, Steve. Nothing 'wrong' with the Championship per say

Like you, I was there amongst the VERY low crowds playing those teams you mention, but I always had a 'supporters ambition' for the club and without that we might as well pack up and stay at home!

Under Sam, Riddler and Tan's Watches, it has been proven to be more feasible for us now than it ever was before and I just don't see why it cannot be done? Even with the 'reduced budget' under the 'new' Vincent Tan, we are still sitting pretty as a Championship side and (with the right manager) should be seriously pushing for promotion

Remember, Dave Jones had less to work with and (currently) achieved more!

Agree with all that.
I think if the club renew Slades contract it wil be a huge mistake , the club are obviously aware that alot of fans don't like Slade's football so renewing his contract I feel would stop fans from renewing season tickets. I personally think it's best if we just thank Slade for the job he's done and both go our seperate ways.

Spot on, Darran (and I think we actually DO have things to 'thank' Bussell Slade for)

I agree with all the above post, the sooner people realise we are not going for PL, and we are trying to establish ourselves as a tough hard to beat workman like Championship team, the better. If you want fancy Dan Footie drive 48 miles West

Oh dear! Might as well all stop going and throw in the towel, then!

Thank you, Job's Comforter!

Things are not all bad Sven. I guess you remember the times when we entertained the likes of Barnet, Wrexham, Harlepool, Darlington etc.on a regular basis, and at the time playing second tier football was just a distant dream. The Championship is not a bad league, and at least we are able to compete against some good teams and good players.

Here, here

It's not that, Steve. Nothing 'wrong' with the Championship per say

Like you, I was there amongst the VERY low crowds playing those teams you mention, but I always had a 'supporters ambition' for the club and without that we might as well pack up and stay at home!

Under Sam, Riddler and Tan's Watches, it has been proven to be more feasible for us now than it ever was before and I just don't see why it cannot be done? Even with the 'reduced budget' under the 'new' Vincent Tan, we are still sitting pretty as a Championship side and (with the right manager) should be seriously pushing for promotion

Remember, Dave Jones had less to work with and (currently) achieved more!

Agree with all that.
I think if the club renew Slades contract it wil be a huge mistake , the club are obviously aware that alot of fans don't like Slade's football so renewing his contract I feel would stop fans from renewing season tickets. I personally think it's best if we just thank Slade for the job he's done and both go our seperate ways.

I have to be honest im gutted Slade is staying because the football is often dire.

But if hes the manager then so be it.

Bloooobirds

I almost agree with the club on this, if you think about it, Southampton, Swansea, Norwich, all clubs who nearly went to the wall only drop down the leagues, but come back being run properly to thrive. The difference is Cardiff are putting their house in order before getting to a point of no return.

In a way it makes sense, slade cheap option, doing the job asked and has dramatically reduced the wage bill. If we could just play some decent football it would make a huge difference to attendances