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' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:35 pm

It says a lot with the sale of Mason. 3M seems like good business and it is. But Cadiff City will not see a penny in my opinion. That money is now Tans. Let get this straight when the club says certain players are not for sale, we all really know it's more lies from the club every thing and everyone is for sale at the right price with nothing coming back in.

Tan appointing Slade says that !! because any manager with ambition would not take the job under these conditions but Slade is happy for his wage, and that is why in my humble opinion Craig Bellamy will never be our Manager whilst Tan is still here, Bellers would not be Tans puppet in management, it would ruin him before he even got going.

Tan as we know is only trying to recoup as much as he can, if we got promoted it would be the biggest miracle ever and I would finally bow to Slade but for me he has no ambition and neither has the club anymore.
But we knew what we were getting when we got our blue back and anyone waiting for Tan to dig deep will be waiting a very long time. Time to realise you can't believe a word coming out of the Club from Dalmon to Choo to Slade and definitely not Tan the tw*t.

Re: The tone is set.

Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:38 pm

Good post Nukes like I said Tan only wants us stable in the championship on the cheap and hope for a lucky promotion.

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:47 pm

Thou I agree about tan mason is no big lose,happy we got so much for him :ayatollah:

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:50 pm

krabb wrote:Thou I agree about tan mason is no big lose,happy we got so much for him :ayatollah:

That's it chief we don't get the money Tan does.

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:51 pm

Been the same all the time I've been following the city(1973).Anyway I thought Bellers got on really well with Tan.

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:54 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
krabb wrote:Thou I agree about tan mason is no big lose,happy we got so much for him :ayatollah:

That's it chief we don't get the money Tan does.



Don't forget he owns the club and its his money,we just owe him a bit less.

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:56 pm

At 3 million we're mugging Wolves.Liked Joe years back but doesn't offer anything at present.The way he was brushed off the ball against Rotherham was embarrassing . Really is a passenger in this set up .Good luck Joe and thanks for Wembley!!

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 8:59 pm

How can you say the money is now Tans?

Surely with FFP in place and the league looking at the accounts, the first thing they are going to pick up on is the owner creaming money out of a club that is making losses year after year.

I'm against Tan as much as anyone else, but really he is not creaming the transfer fees or the parachute payments. This money is going to keep the club afloat paying wages etc.

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:03 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:
krabb wrote:Thou I agree about tan mason is no big lose,happy we got so much for him :ayatollah:

That's it chief we don't get the money Tan does.

Sadly Nukes....it is his money.... :ayatollah:

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:05 pm

sid61284 wrote:How can you say the money is now Tans?

Surely with FFP in place and the league looking at the accounts, the first thing they are going to pick up on is the owner creaming money out of a club that is making losses year after year.

I'm against Tan as much as anyone else, but really he is not creaming the transfer fees or the parachute payments. This money is going to keep the club afloat paying wages etc.

Tottally correct

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:14 pm

this thing about tan getting the money! who else at any football club gets the money/profits? the shareholders of course! :thumbup:

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:16 pm

pembroke allan wrote:this thing about tan getting the money! who else at any football club gets the money/profits? the shareholders of course! :thumbup:

I think people think the owners of the club's lose their money for fun and the love of the club's ,it's all about gambling with some winners but mostly lossers

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:17 pm

pembroke allan wrote:this thing about tan getting the money! who else at any football club gets the money/profits? the shareholders of course! :thumbup:


Allan

The point is there is no profits. The club are making losses every year - hence the transfer embargo and debts growing

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:24 pm

Tans been paying the bills for the club ever since he's been here.

I see lots of people saying the club needs to balance its books, well this is what he is doing.

If the jacks have to sell a big player a year to balance the books in the Prem then why not us ?

There is no way Tan will see a penny of this. However it might mean he has to put less in for the next 12 months.

It's good business for the club, unless all you who want him gone are able to chip in to help out.
Moan about £20 for a ticket, slag the owner off, then expect him to put millions more into the club.

Priceless.

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:28 pm

sid61284 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:this thing about tan getting the money! who else at any football club gets the money/profits? the shareholders of course! :thumbup:


Allan

The point is there is no profits. The club are making losses every year - hence the transfer embargo and debts growing



yes and who is putting money in to keep us stable just like loads of owners? due to obvious bias on here it appears only tan reaps rewards of owning a club, and no other club get into debt by wanting to get higher in league! club is now reversing trend of spend spend spend whilst trying to reduce debt?
ps made profit apparently last season

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:32 pm

Can someone explain how Tan is going to pocket the transfer money. How much has he taken out of the club so far since he has been here. All I can see he is trying to balance the books and make the club self sustainable.

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:33 pm

Lawnmower wrote:Tans been paying the bills for the club ever since he's been here.

I see lots of people saying the club needs to balance its books, well this is what he is doing.

If the jacks have to sell a big player a year to balance the books in the Prem then why not us ?

There is no way Tan will see a penny of this. However it might mean he has to put less in for the next 12 months.

It's good business for the club, unless all you who want him gone are able to chip in to help out.
Moan about £20 for a ticket, slag the owner off, then expect him to put millions more into the club.

Priceless.


Stop it right now,your spoiling it for the others who like to make things up and those who like to believe it.

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 9:47 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:this thing about tan getting the money! who else at any football club gets the money/profits? the shareholders of course! :thumbup:


Allan

The point is there is no profits. The club are making losses every year - hence the transfer embargo and debts growing



yes and who is putting money in to keep us stable just like loads of owners? due to obvious bias on here it appears only tan reaps rewards of owning a club, and no other club get into debt by wanting to get higher in league! club is now reversing trend of spend spend spend whilst trying to reduce debt?
ps made profit apparently last season


I totally agree with you Allan.

What I dont understand is Tan has put money in to the club to keep us afloat, pay langston, pay HMRC, build extensions etc. In return he is majority shareholder with around 85%. How can this be reflected as a loan if he has had shares in return?

Surely he has invested and had 85% shares. The value of that 85% should then fluctuate based on league position, finances etc.

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:02 pm

sid61284 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
sid61284 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:this thing about tan getting the money! who else at any football club gets the money/profits? the shareholders of course! :thumbup:


Allan

The point is there is no profits. The club are making losses every year - hence the transfer embargo and debts growing



yes and who is putting money in to keep us stable just like loads of owners? due to obvious bias on here it appears only tan reaps rewards of owning a club, and no other club get into debt by wanting to get higher in league! club is now reversing trend of spend spend spend whilst trying to reduce debt?
ps made profit apparently last season


I totally agree with you Allan.

What I dont understand is Tan has put money in to the club to keep us afloat, pay langston, pay HMRC, build extensions etc. In return he is majority shareholder with around 85%. How can this be reflected as a loan if he has had shares in return?

Surely he has invested and had 85% shares. The value of that 85% should then fluctuate based on league position, finances etc.


He's bought something like £20m of shares to get his 85/90/95% ( not sure exactly what it is now).

No one else had more than a couple of mill at any point and he's bought all these out anyway.

He's also put in £100m in loans, some of which he's already written off.

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Thu Jan 28, 2016 12:51 am

Nuclearblue wrote:It says a lot with the sale of Mason. 3M seems like good business and it is. But Cadiff City will not see a penny in my opinion. That money is now Tans. Let get this straight when the club says certain players are not for sale, we all really know it's more lies from the club every thing and everyone is for sale at the right price with nothing coming back in.

Tan appointing Slade says that !! because any manager with ambition would not take the job under these conditions but Slade is happy for his wage, and that is why in my humble opinion Craig Bellamy will never be our Manager whilst Tan is still here, Bellers would not be Tans puppet in management, it would ruin him before he even got going.

Tan as we know is only trying to recoup as much as he can, if we got promoted it would be the biggest miracle ever and I would finally bow to Slade but for me he has no ambition and neither has the club anymore.
But we knew what we were getting when we got our blue back and anyone waiting for Tan to dig deep will be waiting a very long time. Time to realise you can't believe a word coming out of the Club from Dalmon to Choo to Slade and definitely not Tan the tw*t.


So far in any accounts there isn't a shred of evidence that shows Vincent tan reclaiming any of his investment, that's not to say on the latest accounts due soon that he won't have but stories like this without evidence just provoke stupid responses

To date he has written £13m off, he has not taken a penny of the 7% interest that was accruing on the loans made by him to the club so until we have evidence why the bullshit?

Just because we are continuing to cut costs doesn't mean we are going to have made a profit and the fact we've breached FFP rules would suggest we lost over the threshold last season hence the transfer embargo I'm sure that will become clearer once the accounts are published but the continued cost cutting is surely just to get the club not living off tan who at one point was propping the club up with almost £2m a month in loans so I think everyone can see now backin the championship with inflated wages and reducing parachute payments we've needed to make savings of at least £24m based on the season before he premier leagues losses so In my opinion I can't see how he could have taken a penny out of the club this season or last season however in terms of this season we won't see the profit/loss until 2017

Re: ' The tone is set. '

Thu Jan 28, 2016 7:46 am

Lawnmower wrote:Tans been paying the bills for the club ever since he's been here.

I see lots of people saying the club needs to balance its books, well this is what he is doing.

If the jacks have to sell a big player a year to balance the books in the Prem then why not us ?

There is no way Tan will see a penny of this. However it might mean he has to put less in for the next 12 months.

It's good business for the club, unless all you who want him gone are able to chip in to help out.
Moan about £20 for a ticket, slag the owner off, then expect him to put millions more into the club.

Priceless.


Good post.