FAO all the Religion / Refugee / Political Gurus on here

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

Oops Im guilty of just putting a political topic out, but sometimes its good to talk about whats happening in the UK, as long as it does not get out of hand

But 99.99% of my posts are either CCFC or FOOTBALL in general

Ha as I said, it's your forum and to run how you want of course. At the end of the day if you have enough readership and are happy with the content then I would imagine your objectives are fulfilled. I am still curious to know if people are be forthcoming in answering the questions posted below, purely out of personal interest. I have no objective myself other than perhaps understanding more where other people are coming from.

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

Agree with the op and although I have got involved in some political threads, other threads are now getting hijacked by politics and it's getting boring reading people's gripes constantly there's enough shit going on at the city!

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

Censorship is never the answer and that's what your asking for. You might consider yourself safe but there are others who pay the price for mass immigration i.e. jobs housing healthcare etc.

It's always the comfortable liberals who go around calling the forgotten working class racists for opposing immigration. Wait till it affects you directly and I can assure you your views will change.

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

"Are you or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party". I wonder what made me think of that?

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

Exactly

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

Censorship is never the answer and that's what your asking for. You might consider yourself safe but there are others who pay the price for mass immigration i.e. jobs housing healthcare etc.

It's always the comfortable liberals who go around calling the forgotten working class racists for opposing immigration. Wait till it affects you directly and I can assure you your views will change.

Totally agree

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

So you start another politically minded thread

Wow that must of taken ages!

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

How often do you watch All Jazeera, out of interest of course

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

How often do you watch All Jazeera, out of interest of course

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

Censorship is never the answer and that's what your asking for. You might consider yourself safe but there are others who pay the price for mass immigration i.e. jobs housing healthcare etc.

It's always the comfortable liberals who go around calling the forgotten working class racists for opposing immigration. Wait till it affects you directly and I can assure you your views will change.

I don't think I have asked for anything in my post and certainly not suggesting censorship is a problem solver for today's big issues.

I think I do consider myself safe in Cardiff and in the Welsh economy, relative to people who are in much worse living conditions across the world and I think that most people would do too if the shoe was on the other foot.

Have you or anyone you know been directly affected in the way you described in terms of job losses or healthcare issues and could you describe how? I am not challenging you on this but would be curious to know.

Do you think that a few thousand refugees will cause the Welsh economy to collapse or are there bigger risk issues to consider?

Nobody has called anyone a racist, but, whilst on the subject I would say that there are remarks made on here that go unopposed that probably are racist remarks. Which is a bit sad really considering Cardiff is a multicultural city and CCFC has a diverse squad. I appreciate not everything can be moderated but a great job is done when wanted.

Can you tell me what your understanding of a 'liberal' is as I am getting awfully confused on this site when I read the term 'liberal' / 'loony lefts' / 'human rights idiots', and then read remarks about the working class.

Out of interest can you also tell me who the 'working class' are, and which political party you would consider most in-line with looking after the interests of the working class?

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

So you start another politically minded thread

Yes mate and if you read it you would have seen that I made reference to this.

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

"Are you or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party". I wonder what made me think of that?

Can I ask what made you think that mate as I'd be interested to know why?

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

How often do you watch All Jazeera, out of interest of course

Never...

I answered your question now do you want to answer mine or just post another silly response.

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

Censorship is never the answer and that's what your asking for. You might consider yourself safe but there are others who pay the price for mass immigration i.e. jobs housing healthcare etc.

It's always the comfortable liberals who go around calling the forgotten working class racists for opposing immigration. Wait till it affects you directly and I can assure you your views will change.

Totally agree

Wez I don't know you but see you love posting on these subjects and have obviously taken the time to do so here, but how about answering the queries I asked?

It's all good an well piggybacking little remarks on other peoples' posts or acknowledging childish responses from others, so why not engage properly if you feel strongly about something?

Condescending tw*t

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

I have nothing against immigrants who (a) want to give something to this country not just take and (b) integrate and become part of the community not simply create their own. Unfortunately they are few and far between. Most of them don't even regard themselves as British.

Its not about people hating muslims and immigrants. What people hate are their beliefs, their intolerances and their racism. They are a lot more racist than we are!

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

Agree wholly. Anyone who shows any sympathy for refugees on here gets instantly shot down. Also some of the comments I've seen on Muslims and refugees on here are absolutely appalling, some to the level saying they should be killed, I'm amazed the police haven't gotten involved as surely posting online that a group of people be killed is a form of hate speech?

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

Agree wholly. Anyone who shows any sympathy for refugees on here gets instantly shot down. Also some of the comments I've seen on Muslims and refugees on here are absolutely appalling, some to the level saying they should be killed, I'm amazed the police haven't gotten involved as surely posting online that a group of people be killed is a form of hate speech?

So police should get involved for people sounding off on a football forum whilst Muslim radicals are allowed to preach their hate on our streets?

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

Censorship is never the answer and that's what your asking for. You might consider yourself safe but there are others who pay the price for mass immigration i.e. jobs housing healthcare etc.

It's always the comfortable liberals who go around calling the forgotten working class racists for opposing immigration. Wait till it affects you directly and I can assure you your views will change.

Totally agree

Wez I don't know you but see you love posting on these subjects and have obviously taken the time to do so here, but how about answering the queries I asked?

It's all good an well piggybacking little remarks on other peoples' posts or acknowledging childish responses from others, so why not engage properly if you feel strongly about something?

Getting bored of writing tbh you've read my other post so know my position ,in short ,don't like anyone who believes in the prophet Muhammad and his teachings on rape ,marriage and death to all non believers ,I think that British people should come first before any foreigner what ever there skin colour or religion and charity starts at home

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

Censorship is never the answer and that's what your asking for. You might consider yourself safe but there are others who pay the price for mass immigration i.e. jobs housing healthcare etc.

It's always the comfortable liberals who go around calling the forgotten working class racists for opposing immigration. Wait till it affects you directly and I can assure you your views will change.

Totally agree

Wez I don't know you but see you love posting on these subjects and have obviously taken the time to do so here, but how about answering the queries I asked?

It's all good an well piggybacking little remarks on other peoples' posts or acknowledging childish responses from others, so why not engage properly if you feel strongly about something?

Getting bored of writing tbh you've read my other post so know my position ,in short ,don't like anyone who believes in the prophet Muhammad and his teachings on rape ,marriage and death to all non believers ,I think that British people should come first before any foreigner what ever there skin colour or religion and charity starts at home

What is your opinion on British born Muslims?

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

How often do you watch All Jazeera, out of interest of course

Never...

I answered your question now do you want to answer mine or just post another silly response.

If you don't like it, don't read it. This is forum open to all CCFC fans, not just those who want to talk about CCFC.

You say this forum is for CCFC fans and open to everything but to me it feels more and more like a CCFC site especially for people who don't like muslims or immigrants, due to volume of posts on the subject.

Totally right if I don't want to read I have the choice not too. My point was that it will be a shame on a personal level as I enjoyed the forum in the past. But obviously this would be no loss to the forum collectively.

Posters on this forum get up in arms about an idiot Swansea fan coming on here posting but a far more relaxed and selective approach is taken with others.

I certainly wouldn't expect some IS preaching idiot to be allowed to post on here and likewise I wouldn't expect people to be allowed to be preaching hate in the other direction.

How often do you watch All Jazeera, out of interest of course

Never...

I answered your question now do you want to answer mine or just post another silly response.

So the information on your profile is incorrect then?

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

Censorship is never the answer and that's what your asking for. You might consider yourself safe but there are others who pay the price for mass immigration i.e. jobs housing healthcare etc.

It's always the comfortable liberals who go around calling the forgotten working class racists for opposing immigration. Wait till it affects you directly and I can assure you your views will change.

Totally agree

Wez I don't know you but see you love posting on these subjects and have obviously taken the time to do so here, but how about answering the queries I asked?

It's all good an well piggybacking little remarks on other peoples' posts or acknowledging childish responses from others, so why not engage properly if you feel strongly about something?

Getting bored of writing tbh you've read my other post so know my position ,in short ,don't like anyone who believes in the prophet Muhammad and his teachings on rape ,marriage and death to all non believers ,I think that British people should come first before any foreigner what ever there skin colour or religion and charity starts at home

What is your opinion on British born Muslims?

As long as they aren't preaching hate against Britain then they are British and following British way of life havnt got a lot of problem ,it the radicals that are the problem ,I know a few British Muslims and they are also worried with the migrants issue as they are trying to change the British way of life and they think that it's bad for Britain to allow mass emigration from these countries

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

Censorship is never the answer and that's what your asking for. You might consider yourself safe but there are others who pay the price for mass immigration i.e. jobs housing healthcare etc.

It's always the comfortable liberals who go around calling the forgotten working class racists for opposing immigration. Wait till it affects you directly and I can assure you your views will change.

Totally agree

Wez I don't know you but see you love posting on these subjects and have obviously taken the time to do so here, but how about answering the queries I asked?

It's all good an well piggybacking little remarks on other peoples' posts or acknowledging childish responses from others, so why not engage properly if you feel strongly about something?

Getting bored of writing tbh you've read my other post so know my position ,in short ,don't like anyone who believes in the prophet Muhammad and his teachings on rape ,marriage and death to all non believers ,I think that British people should come first before any foreigner what ever there skin colour or religion and charity starts at home

What is your opinion on British born Muslims?

As long as they aren't preaching hate against Britain then they are British and following British way of life havnt got a lot of problem ,it the radicals that are the problem ,I know a few British Muslims and they are also worried with the migrants issue as they are trying to change the British way of life and they think that it's bad for Britain to allow mass emigration from these countries

On the other thread you say that all followers of Mohammad are rapists and murderers though? Yet you do understand that covers ALL Muslims right (including the ones you claim to know)? And therefore goes for ALL British born muslims too?

Why are you suggesting that these migrants are muslim radicals? You do undertsand they are here because they are escaping the muslim radicals dont you?

Annis I hope you will read this as owner of the forum. This forum was quite key in keeping my interest in CCFC going towards the end of Dave Jones' tenure through providing tit bits to keep me going between games, so I am grateful to you for it. But as a passive user these days lately I have grown frustrated with all the posts on here about religion, politics refugee (sorry I know I am now perpetuating this) Great for people to have opinions, and these are obviously important current affairs, but I thought this was a CCFC site. Fine for people to say 'if you don't like it don't read it', well yes but my point is there's so much of it on here it's becoming an effort to filter out the CCFC stuff and it is putting me off checking the forum at all. I do think the forum moderators and yourself could do more to keep things CCFC led and be more politically neutral, or perhaps even to separate content better, but it is of course your forum to run as you wish and I have no experience in this area!

As a CCFC fan born and bred in Cardiff with friends and colleagues in Cardiff from all different backgrounds I sometimes feel that some of the comments written on here don't reflect the people of a thriving multi-cultural city, a city that I am proud to have been brought up in amongst many ethnic diversities.

This is not me preaching my personal beliefs but am curious to know what people's answers would be to the questions below. As alluded to above these topics seem to get most posts these days so hopefully people will respond.


Do you actually live in Cardiff?

Do you support a multi-cultural football team?

Do you know any muslims personally?

Do any of the muslims you know contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a with a muslim?

Have you ever experienced any issues personally with a non-muslim?

Do you see religious people in general as trouble makers and people who don’t contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Do you know any members of IS personally?

Is every white person a member of the KKK?

Are you aware that the media is tightly linked to politics and can have shared and / or independent agendas?

Do you form your own opinions from personal experiences or from what you see in the media?

Are you aware that the media does not / cannot / chooses not to report on everything?

Are you from a wealthy part of the UK?

Do you personally earn enough money not to be concerned with the welfare of others?

What do you think about the amount that footballers, bankers and CEO’s earn?

Are you a footballer, banker or CEO?

Do you see human rights as something that doesn’t apply to the UK as we already have comfortable lives?

Were any of your family members ever migrants from another country?

Do you know of or associate with any people with such backgrounds?

To your knowledge did their families just come to the UK for hand-outs?

To your knowledge do their families contribute to UK society in any meaningful way?

Have you ever been a refugee?

What would you do if Wales was invaded by another country and you had a family to protect?

What would you hope for from other countries and their people if you had to flee Wales?

Are you aware of how much tax evasion by big corporations costs the UK government?

Are you aware of how this compares against the potential costs of re-settling a quota of refugees in the UK?

Are you aware that some politicians have strong ties to private industries, and therefore can have vested interests in certain events occurring. For example a war could be a lucrative event to someone who has ties to an arms manufacture. Private jails could be lucrative to someone who has ties to security firms.

Are you aware that at a senior level a revolving door exists between politicians and private industry?

Are you aware that this means government policies can be produced by staff members who then go and work for companies that are directly affected by said policies?

Censorship is never the answer and that's what your asking for. You might consider yourself safe but there are others who pay the price for mass immigration i.e. jobs housing healthcare etc.

It's always the comfortable liberals who go around calling the forgotten working class racists for opposing immigration. Wait till it affects you directly and I can assure you your views will change.

Totally agree

Wez I don't know you but see you love posting on these subjects and have obviously taken the time to do so here, but how about answering the queries I asked?

It's all good an well piggybacking little remarks on other peoples' posts or acknowledging childish responses from others, so why not engage properly if you feel strongly about something?

Getting bored of writing tbh you've read my other post so know my position ,in short ,don't like anyone who believes in the prophet Muhammad and his teachings on rape ,marriage and death to all non believers ,I think that British people should come first before any foreigner what ever there skin colour or religion and charity starts at home

What is your opinion on British born Muslims?

As long as they aren't preaching hate against Britain then they are British and following British way of life havnt got a lot of problem ,it the radicals that are the problem ,I know a few British Muslims and they are also worried with the migrants issue as they are trying to change the British way of life and they think that it's bad for Britain to allow mass emigration from these countries

On the other thread you say that all followers of Mohammad are rapists and murderers though? Yet you do understand that covers ALL Muslime right? And therefore goes for ALL British born muslims too?

Why are you suggesting that these migrants are muslim radicals? You do undertsand they are here because they are escaping the muslim radicals dont you?

twisting words again I said Muslims who believe his teaching of rape and murder of non Muslims did I not ?
And I believe a lot are not escaping wars as they could of claimed asylum in the countless safe countries they ahave travelled through