Dave Jones

Is there a acceptance that the only successful "experienced" manager we would be able to attract, who would work for tan is Dave Jones? The way I see this going is that slade will be sacked in the next couple of games, I don't know when but he wont last the season. Paul Trollope taking over until the end of the season even though I have my doubts about him, I think our fans are way too quick to praise Trollope when we don't even know what sought of input he is actually putting in and how the players respond to him. Anyways Trollope would be a step down from slade long term but Cardiff fans would just welcome it until the summer just to see slade gone. It will then be set up for Dave Jones to take over Cardiff for a second time in the summer, which I think would be great. I know people go on that he is miserable, but I don't really care about that as the football on the pitch is exiting and he was excellent at wheeling and dealing in the transfer market too whilst bringing through our academy players. I have to say my best times supporting Cardiff was when Dave Jones in charge and to see him work his magic once more would put the soul back into Cardiff city again.

Will make no difference ten games in half the squad gone lesser players due to cost cutting still fans will be calling for whoever it is head, Modern football is what it is.

People work for owners and bosses they can't stand and have to grit their teeth and get on with it on a daily basis.

Football managers are no different.

If you think and out of work football manager would turn down the chance of earning thousands of pounds a week because they didn't wasn't an owner sticking his nose in then you sir are deluded.

Leeds have had plenty of managers and that Cellino is f*cking crazy.

I would be interested in how Trollope will get on and I say will because its inevitable.

I would be interested in how Trollope will get on and I say will because its inevitable.

I don't think he is the answer though its just the fact that hes not slade is why Cardiff fans like him so much. If you look at Trollope overall as a manger he is a downgrade of slade. I wouldn't mind him taking over until the end of the season but any longer than that and I would be wondering where this club is actually going.

I would be interested in how Trollope will get on and I say will because its inevitable.

I don't think he is the answer though its just the fact that hes not slade is why Cardiff fans like him so much. If you look at Trollope overall as a manger he is a downgrade of slade. I wouldn't mind him taking over until the end of the season but any longer than that and I would be wondering where this club is actually going.

Hes got one thing on his CV that Slade doesn't you know what that is?

Will make no difference ten games in half the squad gone lesser players due to cost cutting still fans will be calling for whoever it is head, Modern football is what it is.

I'm sure it will be no different to the last time Dave Jones was here as he had to constantly sell his best players season after season, maybe if he shows again how good he can be dealing in the transfer market he will get that extra support to bring in a few quality players in to get over the line. Bottom line is I still believe Dave Jones still has unfinished business with Cardiff due to him getting sacked after another playoff defeat.

Under Jones we played a system where our strikers could score goals .

I would be interested in how Trollope will get on and I say will because its inevitable.

I don't think he is the answer though its just the fact that hes not slade is why Cardiff fans like him so much. If you look at Trollope overall as a manger he is a downgrade of slade. I wouldn't mind him taking over until the end of the season but any longer than that and I would be wondering where this club is actually going.

Hes got one thing on his CV that Slade doesn't you know what that is?

Yes He got a promotion from league 2 but the step up to league 1 proved tough for him, I don't know whether that was because he had a bad Bristol rovers squad. He got sacked leaving them in the relegation zone in league 1 so he never really proved himself at that level whilst Slade has the most League 1 manager of the Year awards so you could say that Russell Slade is the best League 1 manager out there. The next appointment has to be someone who has a connection with the fans and I don't think Trollope is the manager long term to bring the fans back.

I would be interested in how Trollope will get on and I say will because its inevitable.

I don't think he is the answer though its just the fact that hes not slade is why Cardiff fans like him so much. If you look at Trollope overall as a manger he is a downgrade of slade. I wouldn't mind him taking over until the end of the season but any longer than that and I would be wondering where this club is actually going.

Hes got one thing on his CV that Slade doesn't you know what that is?

Yes He got a promotion from league 2 but the step up to league 1 proved tough for him, I don't know whether that was because he had a bad Bristol rovers squad. He got sacked leaving them in the relegation zone in league 1 so he never really proved himself at that level whilst Slade has the most League 1 manager of the Year awards so you could say that Russell Slade is the best League 1 manager out there. The next appointment has to be someone who has a connection with the fans and I don't think Trollope is the manager long term to bring the fans back.

I would give Trollope a few games to see how he gets on.

His times gone, he was behind the times back then, football has moved on he would be a disaster......

We need to look forward and move on. But we don't just need a new manager we need someone to come in and oversee the whole football set up in the club from academy to recruitment and coaching. We need to make a plan for the next 5 years and stick to it and maybe forget about buying our way to promotion. The new manager when Russel Slade is cast aside should be someone with a bit of vision and good coaching credentials with maybe the overseeing person being someone a little more experienced. I would like to see us get some identity back and see more home grown welsh players in our team and maybe the fans would need to give this set up some time to turn things around within a decent financial commitment.

Behind the times? The football we played under Jones was far better than we're seeing now and under Mackay. Of course, we didn't go that final step with him (promotion), but it was helluva ride. Teams filled with players that got you on the edge of you're seat, Chopra, bothroyd, koumas, McCormack, Bellamy, burke. Chris Burke, the last winger we had who would take a man on, get to the byline and put a decent fecking cross in the box!

I'd have Jones back tomorrow

I don't think Dave Jones was ever behind the times his football was attractive and Cardiff was successful on a budget where he had to keep selling his best players. Times are not as bad as they were then so I would to expect to see more stability in the squad once he goes out and rebuilds this overated Cardiff squad. I defintly think Dave Jones could get more players from the academy into the team as well as his record of doing so is fantasticl. Adam Mathews, chris Gunter, Joe leadley, Aaron Ramsey etc...

Seems to me, the problem our supporters had with him was his personality. To be fair, he could be a miserable git, and he was very awkward with the local press. But those years supporting city, along with the Eddie May era, were definitely the most enjoyable.

I would be interested in how Trollope will get on and I say will because its inevitable.

I don't think he is the answer though its just the fact that hes not slade is why Cardiff fans like him so much. If you look at Trollope overall as a manger he is a downgrade of slade. I wouldn't mind him taking over until the end of the season but any longer than that and I would be wondering where this club is actually going.

Hes got one thing on his CV that Slade doesn't you know what that is?

Yes He got a promotion from league 2 but the step up to league 1 proved tough for him, I don't know whether that was because he had a bad Bristol rovers squad. He got sacked leaving them in the relegation zone in league 1 so he never really proved himself at that level whilst Slade has the most League 1 manager of the Year awards so you could say that Russell Slade is the best League 1 manager out there. The next appointment has to be someone who has a connection with the fans and I don't think Trollope is the manager long term to bring the fans back.

Not true. After promotion he consolidated them in mid table in his first season in league one then got sacked a few months into the 2nd season in league one. They went on to get relegated two divisions and into the conference so you could say he had them punching above their weight.

As for Slade being the best league one manager out there just cos he won a popularity contest of 24 voters once outright and once shared!?!? Do me a favour
David Moyes won it twice outright by the way

Slades the only person to win the popularity contest and not get promotion. Says it all. Darren Fergusons won it once and also won promotion from league one twice. He's not as good as Russell though cos hes only won a popularity contest once not twice

I'm currently watching Oxford tear Millwall a new one playing pass and move that we can only dream of under Slade and they are 2 divisions lower than us. The game has clearly moved on and this clown is still stuck in the past with sticking his A4 photocopy aof inspirational speeches from Churchill and Mandela on the changing room toilets. Embarrassing.

You have to take into consideration the teams slade managed though. All the teams he took over, Brighton, Yeovil and Leyton Orient were all dead and buried in the relegation zone when he took over each of them and he managed to drag them out one by one and turned a Yeovil team and leyton orient team both small clubs with no money into promotion contenders he did very well at league 1 I got to give him his due. I have to admit I like Darren Ferguson as well he did a brilliant job at Peterborough for the size and budget of the club playing some great football. I remember in our promotion season when Peterborough outplayed us twice.

Most clubs in that division are small its hardly David v Goliath and huge disparity down there. You get the odd big side relegated some seasons but in the main it's a small club division.

Plenty of small clubs have been promoted from that division. Peterborough, Walsall, Southend, Yeovil, Scunthorpe, Doncaster,etc etc it's hardly an exclusive club.

He was only at Brighton a strawberry season he kept them up at end of season and then they didn't kick on so he was sacked.

He took Yeovil over at the beginning of the season and in his two full seasons he finished 5th then 18th.

Leyton Orient 4 full seasons he finished 7th, 20th, 7th, 3rd. He finished 3rd after bottling it via they were top for ages.

He then started last season really badly, was about to be sacked and somehow got the Cardiff job!?!?!

So in six full seasons at Yeovil and Orient the average finishing position was 10th.

Last season at Cardiff he was manager for 80% of the season. Finished 10th.

Mediocre Manager at best certainly not the best League One has to offer.

Most clubs in that division are small its hardly David v Goliath and huge disparity down there. You get the odd big side relegated some seasons but in the main it's a small club division.

Plenty of small clubs have been promoted from that division. Peterborough, Walsall, Southend, Yeovil, Scunthorpe, Doncaster,etc etc it's hardly an exclusive club.

He was only at Brighton a strawberry season he kept them up at end of season and then they didn't kick on so he was sacked.

He took Yeovil over at the beginning of the season and in his two full seasons he finished 5th then 18th.

Leyton Orient 4 full seasons he finished 7th, 20th, 7th, 3rd. He finished 3rd after bottling it via they were top for ages.

He then started last season really badly, was about to be sacked and somehow got the Cardiff job!?!?!

So in six full seasons at Yeovil and Orient the average finishing position was 10th.

Last season at Cardiff he was manager for 80% of the season. Finished 10th.

Mediocre Manager at best certainly not the best League One has to offer.

I still think he better manager than Trollope. And if Trollope has as much input as us fans says he does then what would actually change in our performances? defiantly not the right man to take us forward.

I'm not saying Trollope is the man to take us forward but you can't argue with the facts. It took him 2 full seasons as a number 1 to win a promotion. In 20 odd years Slade has never tasted success.

I'm not saying Trollope is the man to take us forward but you can't argue with the facts. It took him 2 full seasons as a number 1 to win a promotion. In 20 odd years Slade has never tasted success.

To be fair Steve Cotteril has wne 2 promotions and a johnstone paint trophy which is also a fact yet fans on here say they wouldn't touch him with a barge pole, suggesting that they would rather slade. But give me Dave Jones and I will be perfectly happy.

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I'm not saying Trollope is the man to take us forward but you can't argue with the facts. It took him 2 full seasons as a number 1 to win a promotion. In 20 odd years Slade has never tasted success.

I would give Trollope a chance and see how he does and he also said that he went to see the Spanish team train for a week a few years ago so he must of picked up some tips here is the article.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ct-8651256

I'm not saying Trollope is the man to take us forward but you can't argue with the facts. It took him 2 full seasons as a number 1 to win a promotion. In 20 odd years Slade has never tasted success.

To be fair Steve Cotteril has one 2 promotions and a johnstone paint trophy yet fans on here say they wouldn't touch him with a barge pole, suggesting that they would rather slade.

It doesn't suggest anything as the same fans want Slade out and wouldn't have touched him with a barge poll either given the choice!!!

I for one would swap Coterill for Slade of it was a choice between just them two. At least he used the youngsters at Bristol City.

I'm not saying Trollope is the man to take us forward but you can't argue with the facts. It took him 2 full seasons as a number 1 to win a promotion. In 20 odd years Slade has never tasted success.

I would give Trollope a chance and see how he does and he also said that he went to see the Spanish team train for a week a few years ago so he must of picked up some tips here is the article.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ct-8651256

If Bellamy doesn't want to come in until the new season id let Trollope take charge for rest of season, let him blood some of the youngsters ready for the new season and then let him coach under Bellamy. I assume they know each other from their Wales days.

I'm not saying Trollope is the man to take us forward but you can't argue with the facts. It took him 2 full seasons as a number 1 to win a promotion. In 20 odd years Slade has never tasted success.

I would give Trollope a chance and see how he does and he also said that he went to see the Spanish team train for a week a few years ago so he must of picked up some tips here is the article.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ct-8651256

I wouldn't mind Jean Tigana with Trollope as his assistant mind

I'm not saying Trollope is the man to take us forward but you can't argue with the facts. It took him 2 full seasons as a number 1 to win a promotion. In 20 odd years Slade has never tasted success.

I would give Trollope a chance and see how he does and he also said that he went to see the Spanish team train for a week a few years ago so he must of picked up some tips here is the article.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ct-8651256

If Bellamy doesn't want to come in until the new season id let Trollope take charge for rest of season, let him blood some of the youngsters ready for the new season and then let him coach under Bellamy. I assume they know each other from their Wales days.

I would go with that but if Bellamy doesn't want the job at all and wouldn't be surprised if he didn't and Trollope does well I would give it to him full time if he wanted it.

It's mad that this is on the forum,I was talking to my mate today at training and when I told him my happiest times as a Cardiff fan was under Dave Jones when we was knocking on the door of the playoffs playing great exciting football,I'd take that again now any day,if we are doing things on a budget which we clearly are he's perfect also,the amount of loans and cheap signings we made under him was great management especially thinking we had Welsh boys coming through the academy into the first team,is that not exactly what u want? Without the youth coming through teams not in the Prem can't survive without a owner willing to splash t cash which we don't have so yeah would love for him to come back

Back on topic I was a big DJ fan but he's had his time and it would be a backward step for me.

After watching Oxford tonight a young, hungry coach with fresh ideas is the way forward for me.

It's mad that this is on the forum,I was talking to my mate today at training and when I told him my happiest times as a Cardiff fan was under Dave Jones when we was knocking on the door of the playoffs playing great exciting football,I'd take that again now any day,if we are doing things on a budget which we clearly are he's perfect also,the amount of loans and cheap signings we made under him was great management especially thinking we had Welsh boys coming through the academy into the first team,is that not exactly what u want? Without the youth coming through teams not in the Prem can't survive without a owner willing to splash t cash which we don't have so yeah would love for him to come back

You are preaching the gospel I obviously grew up watching Dave jones Cardiff teams and he was the biggest factor why I decided not to support the liverpools, man utds etc because Cardiff was playing exciting attacking football, there was always welsh players to relate too. My two favourite players being bothroyd and chopra and we was always competing for a trophy or a promotion at the end of each season. I am telling you Dave Jones spoilt us Cardiff fans and I think only now we are starting to have withdrawl symptoms that we are no longer compeating for promotions or cups. If Dave Jones had a david marshall in his team we may of had a fa cup and another promotion to our name. Get Jones back please!!!!

It's mad that this is on the forum,I was talking to my mate today at training and when I told him my happiest times as a Cardiff fan was under Dave Jones when we was knocking on the door of the playoffs playing great exciting football,I'd take that again now any day,if we are doing things on a budget which we clearly are he's perfect also,the amount of loans and cheap signings we made under him was great management especially thinking we had Welsh boys coming through the academy into the first team,is that not exactly what u want? Without the youth coming through teams not in the Prem can't survive without a owner willing to splash t cash which we don't have so yeah would love for him to come back

You are preaching the gospel I obviously grew up watching Dave jones Cardiff teams and he was the biggest factor why I decided not to support the liverpools, man utds etc because Cardiff was playing exciting attacking football, there was always welsh players to relate too. My two favourite players being bothroyd and chopra and we was always competing for a trophy or a promotion at the end of each season. I am telling you Dave Jones spoilt us Cardiff fans and I think only now we are starting to have withdrawl symptoms that we are no longer compeating for promotions or cups. If Dave Jones had a david marshall in his team we may of had a fa cup and another promotion to our name. Get Jones back please!!!!

He did have a David Marshall he was his f*cking signing!