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" ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:46 am

" ASTONISHING UNDER VINCENT TANS OWNERSHIP "

How Vincent Tan has run Cardiff City Football Club

Cardiff City have had an astonishing turnover of 126 players incl loan players

Vincent Tan has had 6 different CEO"S

We have signed one player every 25 days during Tans approx 5 year reign

55 players left

We have recouped transfer fee for just 15 players


The total figures

TAN ERA FEES PAID: £69.055m


TAN ERA FEES RECEIVED: £35.775m

TAN ERA PLAYERS OUT: 55

TAN ERA NET SPEND: £33.28m

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:14 am

That is why I get the feeling that if a club offer 5 million for Marshall he will be gone, I also see Manga going once Morrison is fit and players like Fabio, Connelly and Noone being loaned out once we are safe from relegation.

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:15 am

He looks upon us and treats us as nughty schoolkids who would not do as we were told. I wish he could find a buyer and we could all move on, im not bothered about the premiership just a club where everyone is pulling in the same direction and cares about its fans.

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:20 am

Denzil wrote:He looks upon us and treats us as nughty schoolkids who would not do as we were told. I wish he could find a buyer and we could all move on, im not bothered about the premiership just a club where everyone is pulling in the same direction and cares about its fans.


Agree absolutely 100%

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:22 am

Tan has got bored with us...that's why he has cut back his spending on us.....I wouldn't be surprised he puts us up for sale in the summer or he sells the ground and we have to rent it back.

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:24 am

dazza wrote:Tan has got bored with us...that's why he has cut back his spending on us.....I wouldn't be surprised he puts us up for sale in the summer or he sells the ground and we have to rent it back.

He can't sell the ground with out council say so

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:25 am

wez1927 wrote:
dazza wrote:Tan has got bored with us...that's why he has cut back his spending on us.....I wouldn't be surprised he puts us up for sale in the summer or he sells the ground and we have to rent it back.

He can't sell the ground with out council say so



Will the council stop him though....if he offered them a slice of the pie?

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:33 am

The worst thing about all of this is he has the cheek to think we owe him,if he ran his business properly we would still have a good fan base turning up every week to support the club,he's completely alienated us from the club and is clearly not as gd a business man as he believes cos who would still be in a job if their achievements was relegation and millions of pounds worth of debt? Sooner he's gone the better

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:42 am

dazza wrote:Tan has got bored with us...that's why he has cut back his spending on us.....I wouldn't be surprised he puts us up for sale in the summer or he sells the ground and we have to rent it back.


High up there with most ridiculous anti Tan comments I have heard.

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:43 am

Denzil wrote:He looks upon us and treats us as nughty schoolkids who would not do as we were told. I wish he could find a buyer and we could all move on, im not bothered about the premiership just a club where everyone is pulling in the same direction and cares about its fans.


:thumbup:
My thoughts 100%. Tan please go. the Pl is not everything. I would just like our club back.

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:43 am

Annis touting the transfers Tan has made just highlights the part Malky played in 'the circus.'

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:54 am

I'm not sure if he's got bored with us, just sensible.

In all fairness to Tan the club is starting to run more effectively.

Throwing money at the club like Tan had been doing was always unsustainable when we lost our premier league position.

It's the playing side which needs most work now and that includes the manager.

We have a manager who is evidently struggling at this level, have no footballing ethos and a terrible way of treating youngsters. While much of that is down to the managers inability to recognise the young talent at the club and bring them through I think we have a more fundamental problem that needs addressing in terms of the caching at the club. I am not sure if that is wholly Tans fault and it is not something that throwing money at will fix.

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 11:55 am

maccydee wrote:Annis touting the transfers Tan has made just highlights the part Malky played in 'the circus.'

Is this the Malky that arrived at the club with 10 professionals on the books, built a squad that got the club to a League Cup final and play offs, and then promoted (virtually walking the league) within 2 years?
Earn't the club over £100m, from the Pl as hired to do, but that Tan has somehow (through incompetency and bad financial and people skills management) managed to turn into a £180m loss?

The circus is because of Tan and the creeps who suck up to him and support him.

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:23 pm

Here we go the Tan apologist bringing Malky into it and sticking his tongue up Tans arse again.

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:30 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:Here we go the Tan apologist bringing Malky into it and sticking his tongue up Tans arse again.


Not Tan apologist merely a voice of reason.

We can't praise Malky for taking us up without acknowledging who the owner was who was at the helm when we went up. We also can't castigate Ole and Tan for transfers without acknowledging that Malky also wasted money.

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:25 pm

maccydee wrote:Annis touting the transfers Tan has made just highlights the part Malky played in 'the circus.'


Neil, Funny you always Blame Malky yet Tans CEO'S over looked every signing and agreed everything and Tan should take responsibility for all this as after all that guess what?

Vincent Tan then employed Ole :lol:

Total Fees Paid: £21.3m

Total Players In: 16 (plus 1 on loan)

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:27 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:Annis touting the transfers Tan has made just highlights the part Malky played in 'the circus.'


Neil, Funny you always Blame Malky yet Tans CEO'S over looked every signing and agreed everything and Tan should take responsibility for all this as after all that guess what?

Vincent Tan then employed Ole :lol:

Total Fees Paid: £21.3m

Total Players In: 16 (plus 1 on loan)



AND GUESS WHAT TODAYS HEADLINES IN THE ECHO ARE?



' Cardiff City's remarkable transfer activity under Vincent Tan as Solskjaer's failed signings prove to be so costly '


SO WHO EMPLOYED & ALLOWED OLE GUNNAR SOLSKJAER TO SIGN ANOTHER 17 PLAYERS FOR CARDIFF CITY?


AND NEIL WHO DID THE REBRAND?

AND WHO PROMISED NEARLY 4 YRS AGO THAT CARDIFF CITY WOULD BE MADE DEBT FREE?



PLEASE JUST BE HONEST AND ANSWER THE QUESTIONS :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: " ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:19 pm

A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.

Re: " ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:24 pm

Colourblind wrote:A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.


We did not accept the red. We had to suffer it so yes Tan should honour his side.

Re: " ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:35 pm

We need an owner who cares as much as we do about the club....so, what about fan ownership as in the Bundesliga? Dortmund have done pretty well under the 51% ruling. I bet lots of supporters would cough up.

Re: " VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:51 pm

maccydee wrote:
dazza wrote:Tan has got bored with us...that's why he has cut back his spending on us.....I wouldn't be surprised he puts us up for sale in the summer or he sells the ground and we have to rent it back.


High up there with most ridiculous anti Tan comments I have heard.



Its all about cost cutting! get rid 4m off wage bill replace with 2m wages ! save 2m (example ) tan is interested or wouldnt have such things happening to comply with ffp rules? fenandez at qpr been just once this season is he disinterested or bored?? :old:

Re: " ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:00 pm

Colourblind wrote:A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.


Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT :thumbright: :thumbright: :thumbright:

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Re: " ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:00 pm

Bakedalasker wrote:
Colourblind wrote:A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.


We did not accept the red. We had to suffer it so yes Tan should honour his side.


And more than Suffer it Ian.

Re: " ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:07 pm

bluemun wrote:We need an owner who cares as much as we do about the club....so, what about fan ownership as in the Bundesliga? Dortmund have done pretty well under the 51% ruling. I bet lots of supporters would cough up.


I bet they wouldn't.

Think it's a circus under Tan imagine something like the CCST running the club.

Re: " ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:15 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Colourblind wrote:A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.


Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT :thumbright: :thumbright: :thumbright:

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.


But when it suits the argument it is said Tab is disinterested.

Does he decide everything or is he disinterested?

Also, looking back at Tan's quotes the first mention of the debt to equity was a year after the rebrand. This was pointed out in the echo. It was not linked to the the rebrand and even if it was as colourblind says we didn't accept it. You just even said more than suffer it. You can't have it every way Annis.

As I have said the blame is joint. Tan gave Malky carte Blanche in the transfer market and regrets it I am sure. He also gave Ole carte Blanche blinded by his Man U link. Again I am sure he regrets that. Those that were manager and those that allowed the transfers were to blame not just Tan. As soon as Tan saw how much he had spent on such a pile of shit by Malky he quite rightly kicked off. He is now attempting to put it right and stabilise us still he gets shit.

Everything he does is wrong which is why me and others defend him. I am happy to apportion blame to him. He has made mistakes. You (and others) blame him for everything.

I still have gratitude that he saved us from liquidation.
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Re: " ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:15 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Colourblind wrote:A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.


Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT :thumbright: :thumbright: :thumbright:

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Apart from the one interview when tan said he might turn debt to equity once Langston is sorted out did tan say it or did the two faced club director s say it ?

Re: " ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:17 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Colourblind wrote:A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.


Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT :thumbright: :thumbright: :thumbright:

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Apart from the one interview when tan said he might turn debt to equity once Langston is sorted out did tan say it or did the two faced club director s say it ?


Once he said it and he didn't say all the debt to equity.

Why would he? We should be grateful he is still subsidising a club losing loads of money a week. If he was a tw*t he would have binned us ages ago.

Re: " ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:21 pm

maccydee wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Colourblind wrote:A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.


Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT :thumbright: :thumbright: :thumbright:

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Apart from the one interview when tan said he might turn debt to equity once Langston is sorted out did tan say it or did the two faced club director s say it ?


Once he said it and he didn't say all the debt to equity.

Why would he? We should be grateful he is still subsidising a club losing loads of money a week. If he was a tw*t he would have binned us ages ago.

He converted 6 million already hasn't he ?

Re: " ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:26 pm

wez1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Colourblind wrote:A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.


Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT :thumbright: :thumbright: :thumbright:

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Apart from the one interview when tan said he might turn debt to equity once Langston is sorted out did tan say it or did the two faced club director s say it ?


Once he said it and he didn't say all the debt to equity.

Why would he? We should be grateful he is still subsidising a club losing loads of money a week. If he was a tw*t he would have binned us ages ago.

He converted 6 million already hasn't he ?


I believe so but Annis will probably say not or somehow Tan is in the wrong for doing that.

We are still waiting for Isaac's shares to be sold aren't we? Also Langstone issue has flared up again.

Re: " ASTONISHING VINCENT TAN "

Fri Jan 08, 2016 4:28 pm

maccydee wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Colourblind wrote:A message to Annis "Blame Tan for Everything" Abraham. Debt to Equity was linked with Blue to Red. So you expect Tan to keep his part of the bargain when we failed to keep ours do you ? Naive even by your standards.


Your right I do Blame Tan for everything as he decides everything a FACT :thumbright: :thumbright: :thumbright:

Debt to Equity was agreed to be done with in months of the Rebrand, Ive proved this time and time again and I attended all the meetings with Tans representives incl Allan Whitley CEO.

Apart from the one interview when tan said he might turn debt to equity once Langston is sorted out did tan say it or did the two faced club director s say it ?


Once he said it and he didn't say all the debt to equity.

Why would he? We should be grateful he is still subsidising a club losing loads of money a week. If he was a tw*t he would have binned us ages ago.



Neil, Tan said a Debt Free Club, Which surely means All the Debt.