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' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:14 pm

My opinion, I rate Kenwyne Jones when he's at his best :ayatollah: :ayatollah: But not worth £37,500 a week basic.





Kenwyne Jones failed to win the hearts of Cardiff City fans but finding the right replacement will define play-off hopes


31 DEC 2015


By Steve Tucker


Football correspondent Steve Tucker says Cardiff City must bring in a man of quality if they are to have a chance of making the play-offs



So Kenwyne Jones looks set to leave Cardiff City in January , but does the Bluebirds’ star striker take his side’s Championship play-off hopes with him?

The loss of Jones, of course, is a blow in many ways. The departure of a man of that stature would be a loss for any side.

But Jones’ time at Cardiff has always seemed a strange one in many ways. Since his arrival from Stoke in January 2014, the 31-year-old may have won the minds of many Cardiff City supporters, but rarely their hearts.

The capital club has always been the same when it comes to its heroes. The Cardiff legends always seem blood and thunder types, the 110 per-centers, those with socks round their ankles and blood trickling from their noses. Jones' laid back style always seemed designed to garner heckles rather than praise.

Jones is hardly a finesse player, he remains a battering ram in many ways, but if his charms were sometimes hidden to the Cardiff-faithful, his statistics at the Welsh club could not lie.


He was Cardiff’s top scorer last season and he remains for many the best striker at the club, capable of terrorising any Championship defence.

Nathan Blake has always maintained that those at the club have always failed to ‘love’ Jones enough and you have to say that stretches right across the fan base too.

But it wold be wrong to say Jones takes the Bluebirds’ play-off hopes with him. Let's be honest, Slade and his men have been doing a good enough job of derailing their promotion push of late with the Trinidad & Tobago striker still in their midst.



But what remains crucial now for Slade is that the right replacement is found for Jones in the January transfer window because, make no mistake, the man to step in for Jones is not currently in the Bluebirds squad.

Alex Revell may be back from his loan spell at Wigan, but despite opportunities, the striker has proved not effective enough to lead the Cardiff line at Championship level. Federicio Macheda and Idriss Saadi are other options but both have much to prove for different reasons.




The Bluebirds are going to need to bring someone in to partner Tony Watt, who now looks like he will be signed permanently and handed massive responsibility by Slade for the second half of the season. The hunt needs to be to find the man to complement Watt and to forge an excellent partnership.

It seems likely that search will take the Bluebirds to the Premier League with perhaps a loan signing until the end of the season.

Can the Bluebirds achieve it? Why not? They have done it before. Back in January 2013, then-manager Malky Mackay brought in Fraizer Campbell from Sunderland and his seven goals in the latter half of the campaign helped push the Bluebirds to the Championship title.

Jones (at his best) will be missed by Cardiff but what they need now is the right replacement in the January window. Finding that man might just be the biggest test Slade has faced since taking the job in the first place.

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:20 pm

Last season would have been difficult but now well it won't take much as he has done very little this time around.

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:20 pm

Forever Blue wrote:My opinion, I rate Kenwyne Jones when he's at his best :ayatollah: :ayatollah: But not worth £37,500 a week basic.





Kenwyne Jones failed to win the hearts of Cardiff City fans but finding the right replacement will define play-off hopes


31 DEC 2015


By Steve Tucker


Football correspondent Steve Tucker says Cardiff City must bring in a man of quality if they are to have a chance of making the play-offs



So Kenwyne Jones looks set to leave Cardiff City in January , but does the Bluebirds’ star striker take his side’s Championship play-off hopes with him?

The loss of Jones, of course, is a blow in many ways. The departure of a man of that stature would be a loss for any side.

But Jones’ time at Cardiff has always seemed a strange one in many ways. Since his arrival from Stoke in January 2014, the 31-year-old may have won the minds of many Cardiff City supporters, but rarely their hearts.

The capital club has always been the same when it comes to its heroes. The Cardiff legends always seem blood and thunder types, the 110 per-centers, those with socks round their ankles and blood trickling from their noses. Jones' laid back style always seemed designed to garner heckles rather than praise.

Jones is hardly a finesse player, he remains a battering ram in many ways, but if his charms were sometimes hidden to the Cardiff-faithful, his statistics at the Welsh club could not lie.


He was Cardiff’s top scorer last season and he remains for many the best striker at the club, capable of terrorising any Championship defence.

Nathan Blake has always maintained that those at the club have always failed to ‘love’ Jones enough and you have to say that stretches right across the fan base too.

But it wold be wrong to say Jones takes the Bluebirds’ play-off hopes with him. Let's be honest, Slade and his men have been doing a good enough job of derailing their promotion push of late with the Trinidad & Tobago striker still in their midst.



But what remains crucial now for Slade is that the right replacement is found for Jones in the January transfer window because, make no mistake, the man to step in for Jones is not currently in the Bluebirds squad.

Alex Revell may be back from his loan spell at Wigan, but despite opportunities, the striker has proved not effective enough to lead the Cardiff line at Championship level. Federicio Macheda and Idriss Saadi are other options but both have much to prove for different reasons.




The Bluebirds are going to need to bring someone in to partner Tony Watt, who now looks like he will be signed permanently and handed massive responsibility by Slade for the second half of the season. The hunt needs to be to find the man to complement Watt and to forge an excellent partnership.

It seems likely that search will take the Bluebirds to the Premier League with perhaps a loan signing until the end of the season.

Can the Bluebirds achieve it? Why not? They have done it before. Back in January 2013, then-manager Malky Mackay brought in Fraizer Campbell from Sunderland and his seven goals in the latter half of the campaign helped push the Bluebirds to the Championship title.

Jones (at his best) will be missed by Cardiff but what they need now is the right replacement in the January window. Finding that man might just be the biggest test Slade has faced since taking the job in the first place.

Problem is Annis he just hadn't shown enough of his best

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:23 pm

Peter Crouch stuck on the bench at Stoke City and a fair bit ore mobile than KJ ;)

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:29 pm

Forever Blue wrote:My opinion, I rate Kenwyne Jones when he's at his best :ayatollah: :ayatollah: But not worth £37,500 a week basic.





Kenwyne Jones failed to win the hearts of Cardiff City fans but finding the right replacement will define play-off hopes


31 DEC 2015


By Steve Tucker


Football correspondent Steve Tucker says Cardiff City must bring in a man of quality if they are to have a chance of making the play-offs



So Kenwyne Jones looks set to leave Cardiff City in January , but does the Bluebirds’ star striker take his side’s Championship play-off hopes with him?

The loss of Jones, of course, is a blow in many ways. The departure of a man of that stature would be a loss for any side.

But Jones’ time at Cardiff has always seemed a strange one in many ways. Since his arrival from Stoke in January 2014, the 31-year-old may have won the minds of many Cardiff City supporters, but rarely their hearts.

The capital club has always been the same when it comes to its heroes. The Cardiff legends always seem blood and thunder types, the 110 per-centers, those with socks round their ankles and blood trickling from their noses. Jones' laid back style always seemed designed to garner heckles rather than praise.

Jones is hardly a finesse player, he remains a battering ram in many ways, but if his charms were sometimes hidden to the Cardiff-faithful, his statistics at the Welsh club could not lie.


He was Cardiff’s top scorer last season and he remains for many the best striker at the club, capable of terrorising any Championship defence.

Nathan Blake has always maintained that those at the club have always failed to ‘love’ Jones enough and you have to say that stretches right across the fan base too.

But it wold be wrong to say Jones takes the Bluebirds’ play-off hopes with him. Let's be honest, Slade and his men have been doing a good enough job of derailing their promotion push of late with the Trinidad & Tobago striker still in their midst.



But what remains crucial now for Slade is that the right replacement is found for Jones in the January transfer window because, make no mistake, the man to step in for Jones is not currently in the Bluebirds squad.

Alex Revell may be back from his loan spell at Wigan, but despite opportunities, the striker has proved not effective enough to lead the Cardiff line at Championship level. Federicio Macheda and Idriss Saadi are other options but both have much to prove for different reasons.




The Bluebirds are going to need to bring someone in to partner Tony Watt, who now looks like he will be signed permanently and handed massive responsibility by Slade for the second half of the season. The hunt needs to be to find the man to complement Watt and to forge an excellent partnership.

It seems likely that search will take the Bluebirds to the Premier League with perhaps a loan signing until the end of the season.

Can the Bluebirds achieve it? Why not? They have done it before. Back in January 2013, then-manager Malky Mackay brought in Fraizer Campbell from Sunderland and his seven goals in the latter half of the campaign helped push the Bluebirds to the Championship title.

Jones (at his best) will be missed by Cardiff but what they need now is the right replacement in the January window. Finding that man might just be the biggest test Slade has faced since taking the job in the first place.



Getting just 9 from the last 24 points has already defined our playoff hopes in my opinion. As regards KJ getting rid of a player on £37k a week is good business.


:sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout:

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:36 pm

No KJ is nowhere near irreplaceable But what I want is to give Saadi or sign another pacy mobile striker to partner Watt. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:37 pm

We can get better and cheaper.... I was amazed at how many thought he played well against Bradford.... I saw a lazy tw*t that managed 2 simple goals :ayatollah:

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:15 pm

krabb wrote:We can get better and cheaper....

Good luck with that in the January window! Also, Watt has not been all that these last 3 games either has he!?

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:17 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
krabb wrote:We can get better and cheaper....

Good luck with that in the January window! Also, Watt has not been all that these last 3 games either has he!?


And neither has most of the players.

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:21 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
krabb wrote:We can get better and cheaper....

Good luck with that in the January window! Also, Watt has not been all that these last 3 games either has he!?

So you think jones is quality and worth a staggering £37,000 a week.???

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:29 pm

I wish people would stop banging on about his contract. No he isn't worth 37k a week no player in the championship is but he signed it wen we was in the premier league :roll:

If people think Tan is going to release all of that 37k a week for another player or two then they are deluded. We will end up with another Revell and Doyle on about a fifth / quarter each of that 37k.

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:30 pm

polo wrote:I wish people would stop banging on about his contract. No he isn't worth 37k a week no player in the championship is but he signed it wen we was in the premier league :roll:

If people think Tan is going to release all of that 37k a week for another player or two then they are deluded. We will end up with another Revell and Doyle on about a fifth / quarter each of that 37k.


At least they will put a shift in. :lol:

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:32 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
polo wrote:I wish people would stop banging on about his contract. No he isn't worth 37k a week no player in the championship is but he signed it wen we was in the premier league :roll:

If people think Tan is going to release all of that 37k a week for another player or two then they are deluded. We will end up with another Revell and Doyle on about a fifth / quarter each of that 37k.


At least they will put a shift in. :lol:

:ayatollah:

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:34 pm

krabb wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
krabb wrote:We can get better and cheaper....

Good luck with that in the January window! Also, Watt has not been all that these last 3 games either has he!?

So you think jones is quality and worth a staggering £37,000 a week.???

No and no. But I'm stupid enough to think promotion still is the target.. If so, he won't be replaced in this window on a budget -
Where does that leave us? I didn't see the last two games, but i saw the Birmingham game. He was feeding on absolute crap, mostly supply in hip hight. No wonder he got fed up.. And there are no player at this club who can make the impact that Kenwyne can on a good day! Not even close.
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Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:35 pm

People can make all the excuses in the world for Kenwynne.
They can say he's a Premier League player... But really he isn't, he had a ok career in the Prem but never a prolific goal scorer. His goals to game record shows that.
For Cardiff to progress we need to stop playing Kenwynne and get him of the wage bill. Kenwynne is slow and his on the ball ability is dreadful, he offers Russels 4-4-2 nothing apart from at corners.
He in my opinion will not be missed

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:38 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
krabb wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
krabb wrote:We can get better and cheaper....

Good luck with that in the January window! Also, Watt has not been all that these last 3 games either has he!?

So you think jones is quality and worth a staggering £37,000 a week.???

No and no. But I'm stupid enough to think promotion still is the target.. If so, he won't be replaced in this window on a budget -
Where does that leave us? I didn't see the last two games, but i saw the Birmingham game. He was feeding on absolute crap, mostly supply in hip hight. No wonder he got fed up..

Getting fed up is not an option, you keep going....and that was the reason I thought he was poor against Brentford,I'm not a fan of whittling ham but he came on against forest, played high up the pitch and pinged some nice balls.Maybe this could be an option ,pushing whittlingham high up....and watt is a trier and wins a lot more than jones ever will :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Thu Dec 31, 2015 6:03 pm

I have no problem with Jones going for financial reasons but it will be virtually impossible to replace him with a big target man who can score without spending a lot of money.

This season, whenever we played without Jones we never looked like scoring. The prospect of watching Ravell and Mason upfront again fills me with dread !! Until we actually sign Watt that is our only fit pairing.

Mason and Ravell means no goals and a very real possibility of being dragged into a relegation battle.

A good Prem target man on loan would do but replacing Jones has to be the priority after signing Watt.

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Fri Jan 01, 2016 9:53 am

krabb wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
krabb wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
krabb wrote:We can get better and cheaper....

Good luck with that in the January window! Also, Watt has not been all that these last 3 games either has he!?

So you think jones is quality and worth a staggering £37,000 a week.???

No and no. But I'm stupid enough to think promotion still is the target.. If so, he won't be replaced in this window on a budget -
Where does that leave us? I didn't see the last two games, but i saw the Birmingham game. He was feeding on absolute crap, mostly supply in hip hight. No wonder he got fed up..

Getting fed up is not an option, you keep going....and that was the reason I thought he was poor against Brentford,I'm not a fan of whittling ham but he came on against forest, played high up the pitch and pinged some nice balls.Maybe this could be an option ,pushing whittlingham high up....and watt is a trier and wins a lot more than jones ever will :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Sorry but I have a different view of whitts when he came on against forest IMO the game got even slower than it was and he offered very little in going forward ,don't remember him venturing over the half way line much

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Fri Jan 01, 2016 10:33 am

At the end of the day his best days at city are behind him and he looks like someone who has lost all interest in representing what the blue shirt of city stands for, what ever a player earns each week is irrelevant when it comes to on the pitch performance and he just does not have it anymore, I've no doubt he will go somewhere else and start performing but his days with us are gone, he doesn't seem interested at all, his head is always down he very rarely runs or makes runs his distribution has gone completely and those are all reasons why he must go
Thankyou for your time at the club (well not this season really) I appreciate all you've done but it's time to go and prove your worth elsewhere

As for a replacement there are so many out there It's just picking the right one. Personally I would go knocking on west broms door for anichebe

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:36 am

krabb wrote:We can get better and cheaper.... I was amazed at how many thought he played well against Bradford.... I saw a lazy tw*t that managed 2 simple goals :ayatollah:


to be fair, after having le fondre here who was pitifully bad in front of goal (the worst we've had in 5 years i'd say), i don't regard that sort of goal as 'simple'. firstly you have to get in the position, and then you have to put your foot through it.

he isn't worth £37k a week, and for that reason alone he goes. there are players who can do a similar job for less money.

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:53 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
krabb wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
krabb wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
krabb wrote:We can get better and cheaper....

Good luck with that in the January window! Also, Watt has not been all that these last 3 games either has he!?

So you think jones is quality and worth a staggering £37,000 a week.???

No and no. But I'm stupid enough to think promotion still is the target.. If so, he won't be replaced in this window on a budget -
Where does that leave us? I didn't see the last two games, but i saw the Birmingham game. He was feeding on absolute crap, mostly supply in hip hight. No wonder he got fed up..

Getting fed up is not an option, you keep going....and that was the reason I thought he was poor against Brentford,I'm not a fan of whittling ham but he came on against forest, played high up the pitch and pinged some nice balls.Maybe this could be an option ,pushing whittlingham high up....and watt is a trier and wins a lot more than jones ever will :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Sorry but I have a different view of whitts when he came on against forest IMO the game got even slower than it was and he offered very little in going forward ,don't remember him venturing over the half way line much

He then got moved back info to find back 4..... He looks lost here :ayatollah:

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Fri Jan 01, 2016 11:56 am

SwampCCFC wrote:
krabb wrote:We can get better and cheaper.... I was amazed at how many thought he played well against Bradford.... I saw a lazy tw*t that managed 2 simple goals :ayatollah:


to be fair, after having le fondre here who was pitifully bad in front of goal (the worst we've had in 5 years i'd say), i don't regard that sort of goal as 'simple'. firstly you have to get in the position, and then you have to put your foot through it.

he isn't worth £37k a week, and for that reason alone he goes. there are players who can do a similar job for less money.

Let's be honest, they were no more than easy goals, any professional even a part timer should slot them home..... And as I said we can get better cheaper....simple as that :ayatollah:

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:26 pm

who the hell is Kenwyn Jones? thought we been playing with 10 men

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:27 pm

If we had Carlton Cole or shola ameobi they'd be on a fraction of what kj is on and would do the same job imo,personally I don't get players not putting 100% into games I'd gladly pay dues to play for Cardiff and at the min I reckon I'd do as gd a job as our strike force to

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:09 pm

I'm disappointed that kenwyne Jones has opted not to sign a new contract I would keep him until the end of the season unless we can bring in Kyle lafferty as a replacement

Re: ' Will it be hard to Replace Him? '

Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:29 pm

We have to find our own talent !!

There is a boxing quote that I can never remember, but it goes along the lines of Its not the opponent that defeats a champion its the soft living. Too many of our players are coasting, riding the football gravy train. Sammy Ameobi is probably made for life by our standards for a questionable player. According to a quick search he is on 2 million Euros a season :o :o

Players like Ralls are still hungry, you can see it in Kennedy although he may be going about it the wrong way. I don't want kyle lafferty. I want our next Earnie,ledley,gunther,Rambo although i wouldn't mind another Chopra.