KENWYNE JONES ISNT LAZY

As some of you know or may not know i do a lot of running and i weigh around 10st 4lbs when racing fit ... well my natural weight is 12st 10lbs but the reason i dont race at that weight is because its bloody hard work carrying that extra weight around and i would end up running much slower times BUT that wouldnt mean i was a LAZY runner. Now look at the size of Kenwyne Jones and the weight he carries around and please explain to me why you think he can be chasing every ball. The truth of the matter is he CANT CHASE every ball because like an heavyweight boxer he tires quicker. How many of you bigger [not fat] supporters on here can run around for 10 mins and not get tired? not many i bet ... Running after every ball isnt what Kenwynes game is about and its about time supporters realized that and get off his back on match days. One thing that Kenwyne isnt and thats lazy.
P.s. He isnt worth the reported £40,000 a week either mind, but that`s not the argument.

I'm not convinced and either way with Kenwyne going in the summer because no club is going to take him on his wage packet at the moment and not wanted by the club why should he put in the effort anyway like he has been doing the last few games.

I'm not convinced and either way with Kenwyne going in the summer because no club is going to take him on his wage packet at the moment and not wanted by the club why should he put in the effort anyway like he has been doing the last few games.

I was watching him yesterday and he was trying to get involved and at one point he made a brilliant tackle in our own box before running the length of the field to try and catch up with the attack. He`s a bloody big bloke who needs quality balls played to him not chasing every ball.
Look i`m not a huge fan of his because i like pace throughout the team. Look at the speed Forest attacked yesterday for example but fans shouting out "jones you lazy b*stard" within earshot is just so wide of the mark. With what we have i`d still rather him IN the team than OUT.

I'm not convinced and either way with Kenwyne going in the summer because no club is going to take him on his wage packet at the moment and not wanted by the club why should he put in the effort anyway like he has been doing the last few games.

I was watching him yesterday and he was trying to get involved and at one point he made a brilliant tackle in our own box before running the length of the field to try and catch up with the attack. He`s a bloody big bloke who needs quality balls played to him not chasing every ball.
Look i`m not a huge fan of his because i like pace throughout the team. Look at the speed Forest attacked yesterday for example but fans shouting out "jones you lazy b*stard" within earshot is just so wide of the mark. With what we have i`d still rather him IN the team than OUT.

We are playing 442 without the the wingers suited for it to whip in crosses for him to head.

Some interesting points Aherne

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I'm not convinced and either way with Kenwyne going in the summer because no club is going to take him on his wage packet at the moment and not wanted by the club why should he put in the effort anyway like he has been doing the last few games.

I was watching him yesterday and he was trying to get involved and at one point he made a brilliant tackle in our own box before running the length of the field to try and catch up with the attack. He`s a bloody big bloke who needs quality balls played to him not chasing every ball.
Look i`m not a huge fan of his because i like pace throughout the team. Look at the speed Forest attacked yesterday for example but fans shouting out "jones you lazy b*stard" within earshot is just so wide of the mark. With what we have i`d still rather him IN the team than OUT.

We are playing 442 without the the wingers suited for it to whip in crosses for him to head.

Well if a winger can't cross the ball he's not a winger and that's not Kenwynnes fault

I'm not convinced and either way with Kenwyne going in the summer because no club is going to take him on his wage packet at the moment and not wanted by the club why should he put in the effort anyway like he has been doing the last few games.

I was watching him yesterday and he was trying to get involved and at one point he made a brilliant tackle in our own box before running the length of the field to try and catch up with the attack. He`s a bloody big bloke who needs quality balls played to him not chasing every ball.
Look i`m not a huge fan of his because i like pace throughout the team. Look at the speed Forest attacked yesterday for example but fans shouting out "jones you lazy b*stard" within earshot is just so wide of the mark. With what we have i`d still rather him IN the team than OUT.

We are playing 442 without the the wingers suited for it to whip in crosses for him to head.

Well if a winger can't cross the ball he's not a winger and that's not Kenwynnes fault

No it isn't and with Pilkington and Noone they always cut in all the time when they should be whipping high crosses in from the far side of the box which is what Wingers in a 442 should do instead of cutting in all the time.

Find it disgraceful the way our fans treat him.

Take your points on board fully, but how can you explain when his back is facing marshals kick outs. Running alone doesn't dispel his laziness. Body language shows He just isn't interested !

And he sits on his arse with arms outstretched appealing to the ref. Get up for f**k sake and get on with the game,that might get fans off his back.

Great post. Jones needs Pilks and Noone to whip balls in on our heavy pitch. Slade doesn't coach them to. Not Jones fault.

I'm not convinced and either way with Kenwyne going in the summer because no club is going to take him on his wage packet at the moment and not wanted by the club why should he put in the effort anyway like he has been doing the last few games.

I was watching him yesterday and he was trying to get involved and at one point he made a brilliant tackle in our own box before running the length of the field to try and catch up with the attack. He`s a bloody big bloke who needs quality balls played to him not chasing every ball.
Look i`m not a huge fan of his because i like pace throughout the team. Look at the speed Forest attacked yesterday for example but fans shouting out "jones you lazy b*stard" within earshot is just so wide of the mark. With what we have i`d still rather him IN the team than OUT.

We are playing 442 without the the wingers suited for it to whip in crosses for him to head.

Well if a winger can't cross the ball he's not a winger and that's not Kenwynnes fault

What we got wingers now, I remember wingers took players on had a go back in the day now its pass back or hit and hope with tippy tappy crap back and forth

The counter argument would be that he is too big, could do with a lighter frame. You can drop the weight why can't he?

His movement in the box is my worry, I agree that he shouldn't be pressing defenders, that's not his game and it would be ineffective/detrimental to his objective, score goals

Watch some rugby it can be done!

These guys are meant to be pros and should be fit enough to run around without getting out of steam so early.

Watch some rugby it can be done!

These guys are meant to be pros and should be fit enough to run around without getting out of steam so early.

Rugby is a bad example here. Saw some technical info on professional rugby and they only play/move about for about 18 minutes per game. They run around for a minute or so, then rest, while kicks, injuries, subs or refs watch tele replays.
Don't watch it myself, as its too boring with all the stops (get frustrated at the time wasting/hold ups in football) but saw this info. and was surprised.

Good points Aherne. His game is about bullying defenders and getting on the end of crosses, not chasing around every lost cause of a wasted pass.
Wingers who can cross will bring the best of him.

I was watching him closely in the first half on Tuesday, he was up for the fight but as the game wore on he became disinterested. Countless times we had the opportunity to coss it and didn't, he made little runs that were not seen.
He needs the ball earlier, but we have stopped the deep ball in. This maybe because Ralls is not on the left any more or Fabio hasn't been playing or god forbid Whitts isn't controlling the pace. But, he has been shit in December and i don't think this is due to laziness either.

Watch some rugby it can be done!

These guys are meant to be pros and should be fit enough to run around without getting out of steam so early.

Rugby is a bad example here. Saw some technical info on professional rugby and they only play/move about for about 18 minutes per game. They run around for a minute or so, then rest, while kicks, injuries, subs or refs watch tele replays.
Don't watch it myself, as its too boring with all the stops (get frustrated at the time wasting/hold ups in football) but saw this info. and was surprised.

I would say its highly relevant as you say move for 18 mins per game, KJ stats about that lol

Play to his strengths, he shouldn't need to be running g about like a mad man

I think kenwyne is sheer class but he doesn't fit I to our team as I don't think we play the right football for him and don't have players of a high enough standard to supply him. Put him in a better team where he supplied with quality balls and he will show his class. To good a player for our team. But I agree he shouldn't be playing as we unable to get any balls of worth to him.
That said he set up out goal. Let the ball round through to watt where he should have scored it for a brilliant save. If it wasn't for manga brilliant display think he did more than the rest on Tuesday.

As some of you know or may not know i do a lot of running and i weigh around 10st 4lbs when racing fit ... well my natural weight is 12st 10lbs but the reason i dont race at that weight is because its bloody hard work carrying that extra weight around and i would end up running much slower times BUT that wouldnt mean i was a LAZY runner. Now look at the size of Kenwyne Jones and the weight he carries around and please explain to me why you think he can be chasing every ball. The truth of the matter is he CANT CHASE every ball because like an heavyweight boxer he tires quicker. How many of you bigger [not fat] supporters on here can run around for 10 mins and not get tired? not many i bet ... Running after every ball isnt what Kenwynes game is about and its about time supporters realized that and get off his back on match days. One thing that Kenwyne isnt and thats lazy.
P.s. He isnt worth the reported £40,000 a week either mind, but that`s not the argument.

been saying it all season mate he's a targetman that does that little bit more for us.quality striker and will be sad to see him go

All technicalities.

Forwards in rugby union put far more effort in and theyre 16 stone +

He is skinny ish and tall. If he cant keep running them lose some of the muscle.

Weight and size doesnt give an indication of peak fitness.

All technicalities.

Forwards in rugby union put far more effort in and theyre 16 stone +

He is skinny ish and tall. If he cant keep running them lose some of the muscle.

Weight and size doesnt give an indication of peak fitness.

So your advice is for Kenwyn to sacrifice his best features, that makes him a threat, loose the muscle so he can adapt to pointless running in the champinship? I think Kenwyn is making the right choice for himself leaving.. After all, he is at that age..

We can all see the difference when Kenwyne has a go. It's not about running himself into the ground, it's actually bothering to TRY to challenge for a header, TRY to get onto the end of a cross, TRY to compete and be a nuisance for the opposing defenders.

When Kenwyne has a go, we can all see he's actually quite mobile for his size. He can get around the pitch fine when he can be bothered, so when I see him standing still and not running 5 yards to get involved, it infuriates me!

In the Premiership, Kenwyne battled with Brede Hangeland all game, won the majority of headers against him and won the battle. Why doesn't he perform like that every game?

When we all see Kenwyne not bothering to challenge for a header or not bothering to run towards the ball within the first 5 minutes of a Championship game, are you honestly saying it's because of his weight? It's easy to spot the difference between a player too tired/unfit to give anymore and a player who won't try at all!

Not really.

Id just say get more fit.

I'm not convinced and either way with Kenwyne going in the summer because no club is going to take him on his wage packet at the moment and not wanted by the club why should he put in the effort anyway like he has been doing the last few games.

I was watching him yesterday and he was trying to get involved and at one point he made a brilliant tackle in our own box before running the length of the field to try and catch up with the attack. He`s a bloody big bloke who needs quality balls played to him not chasing every ball.
Look i`m not a huge fan of his because i like pace throughout the team. Look at the speed Forest attacked yesterday for example but fans shouting out "jones you lazy b*stard" within earshot is just so wide of the mark. With what we have i`d still rather him IN the team than OUT.

We are playing 442 without the the wingers suited for it to whip in crosses for him to head.

Well if a winger can't cross the ball he's not a winger and that's not Kenwynnes fault

What we got wingers now, I remember wingers took players on had a go back in the day now its pass back or hit and hope with tippy tappy crap back and forth

And cutting in all the time.

He makes Jay Bothroyd look like Usain Bolt

Thanks for your efforts but time to go