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How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:01 am

Marshall
Peltier,manga,Connelly,Malone
Gunnerson,ralls
Noone, watts,pilkington
Jones
Now this is the team I believe slade will start with against Forrest tonight but it will 4-4-2 in most fans eyes
But it could quite easily be 4-2-3-1
IMO I would play Fabio instead of Malone as I believe he gives that bit more going foreword
However you look at it either formation of4-4-2 or4-2-3-1 most would still pick the same players
Note I said most not all
Anyway soon find out looking foreword to the game tonight
Come on bloobirds 3 points is a must

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:37 am

Never going to happen.

4-4-2.

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 8:56 am

Would love that to happen

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:12 am

davids wrote:Never going to happen.

4-4-2.

Your missing the point
IMO if we play 4-4-2or4-2-3-1
I believe most fans would still use the same 11 players

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:14 am

KBK-13 wrote:Would love that to happen

My point is wether it's 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 it would more than likely be the same 11 players
Name your team in a 4-2-3-1 formation

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:21 am

Not too bad, but what about dropping Jones and pushing Watt and Ralls up a position and playing KD alongside Gunner in DM.

Maybe also Fabio in for Malone or even No one ?

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:25 am

I would have 4-1-4-1. For the first time play Dikgacoi like Medel, where he's at his best. Have two attack minded fullbacks in Fabio and Malone and try Watt on his own up front. Jones is a liability.

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:25 am

What about shooting on target and simple defending and in between straight passes ? :bluescarf:

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:28 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:Would love that to happen

My point is wether it's 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 it would more than likely be the same 11 players
Name your team in a 4-2-3-1 formation


Marshall

Peltier manga Connolly Fabio

-- Gunnarson Whitts

Kennedy Ralls Pilkington

----- Watt

I don't want to see Ralls picking the short passes up from the centre backs like he has the last few games.

Against the better sides in the division I would play Dikgachoi next to Gunnarson but don't believe we need to be that defensive tonight against Forest.

Gunnarson and Whitts don't work together in a 442 but with Ralls energy in there to help I think we won't have that problem.

The formation suits both KJ and Ameobi but after both of their performance on Saturday they are in need of a 'rest'

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:55 am

I'd is injured if I'm not mistaken

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:58 am

troobloo3339 wrote:I'd is injured if I'm not mistaken


Dikgachoi was on the bench Boxing Day

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 9:58 am

KBK-13 wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:Would love that to happen

My point is wether it's 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 it would more than likely be the same 11 players
Name your team in a 4-2-3-1 formation


Marshall

Peltier manga Connolly Fabio

-- Gunnarson Whitts

Kennedy Ralls Pilkington

----- Watt

I don't want to see Ralls picking the short passes up from the centre backs like he has the last few games.

Against the better sides in the division I would play Dikgachoi next to Gunnarson but don't believe we need to be that defensive tonight against Forest.

Gunnarson and Whitts don't work together in a 442 but with Ralls energy in there to help I think we won't have that problem.

The formation suits both KJ and Ameobi but after both of their performance on Saturday they are in need of a 'rest'

Like I said most fans would use most of the same players in a 4-2-3-1 formation that slade is using in a 4-4-2- formation
Just a quick question how do we know it's a4-4-2 formation ?!

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:09 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:Would love that to happen

My point is wether it's 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 it would more than likely be the same 11 players
Name your team in a 4-2-3-1 formation


Marshall

Peltier manga Connolly Fabio

-- Gunnarson Whitts

Kennedy Ralls Pilkington

----- Watt

I don't want to see Ralls picking the short passes up from the centre backs like he has the last few games.

Against the better sides in the division I would play Dikgachoi next to Gunnarson but don't believe we need to be that defensive tonight against Forest.

Gunnarson and Whitts don't work together in a 442 but with Ralls energy in there to help I think we won't have that problem.

The formation suits both KJ and Ameobi but after both of their performance on Saturday they are in need of a 'rest'

Like I said most fans would use most of the same players in a 4-2-3-1 formation that slade is using in a 4-4-2- formation
Just a quick question how do we know it's a4-4-2 formation ?!


Because I watch the game

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 10:28 am

troobloo3339 wrote:Marshall
Peltier,manga,Connelly,Malone
Gunnerson,ralls
Noone, watts,pilkington
Jones
Now this is the team I believe slade will start with against Forrest tonight but it will 4-4-2 in most fans eyes
But it could quite easily be 4-2-3-1
IMO I would play Fabio instead of Malone as I believe he gives that bit more going foreword
However you look at it either formation of4-4-2 or4-2-3-1 most would still pick the same players
Note I said most not all
Anyway soon find out looking foreword to the game tonight
Come on bloobirds 3 points is a must


What do you base that on re Fabio offering more than Malone going forward?

Malone has 19 games v Fabio 13 and he has 2 goals to Fabio's 0 and 3 assists to Fabio's 2.

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:07 am

I'd stick Whitts behind the striker, Watt up top and drop Jones.

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:30 am

KBK-13 wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:Would love that to happen

My point is wether it's 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 it would more than likely be the same 11 players
Name your team in a 4-2-3-1 formation


Marshall

Peltier manga Connolly Fabio

-- Gunnarson Whitts

Kennedy Ralls Pilkington

----- Watt

I don't want to see Ralls picking the short passes up from the centre backs like he has the last few games.

Against the better sides in the division I would play Dikgachoi next to Gunnarson but don't believe we need to be that defensive tonight against Forest.

Gunnarson and Whitts don't work together in a 442 but with Ralls energy in there to help I think we won't have that problem.

The formation suits both KJ and Ameobi but after both of their performance on Saturday they are in need of a 'rest'

Like I said most fans would use most of the same players in a 4-2-3-1 formation that slade is using in a 4-4-2- formation
Just a quick question how do we know it's a4-4-2 formation ?!


Because I watch the game

So you see.ralls and guners in central mid with pilks consistantly coming inside .watt dropping back behind Jones to pick up the ball and run with it and one wide player .making us look more 4-2-3-1 than a rigid 4-4-2 hmmmm

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 11:51 am

troobloo3339 wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:
troobloo3339 wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:Would love that to happen

My point is wether it's 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 it would more than likely be the same 11 players
Name your team in a 4-2-3-1 formation


Marshall

Peltier manga Connolly Fabio

-- Gunnarson Whitts

Kennedy Ralls Pilkington

----- Watt

I don't want to see Ralls picking the short passes up from the centre backs like he has the last few games.

Against the better sides in the division I would play Dikgachoi next to Gunnarson but don't believe we need to be that defensive tonight against Forest.

Gunnarson and Whitts don't work together in a 442 but with Ralls energy in there to help I think we won't have that problem.

The formation suits both KJ and Ameobi but after both of their performance on Saturday they are in need of a 'rest'

Like I said most fans would use most of the same players in a 4-2-3-1 formation that slade is using in a 4-4-2- formation
Just a quick question how do we know it's a4-4-2 formation ?!


Because I watch the game

So you see.ralls and guners in central mid with pilks consistantly coming inside .watt dropping back behind Jones to pick up the ball and run with it and one wide player .making us look more 4-2-3-1 than a rigid 4-4-2 hmmmm


No 442 is rigid, but if that's the way we play, can you please explain why against MK Dons, Ameobi (our right and only winger that you must be talking about in the last comment) got into 3 excellent positions away from the left back, but was then switched to left wing meaning we had no one on the right to keep getting into these dangerous positions? Would you say that was good game management?

After that switch we hardly saw Ameobi and he looked disinterested. Then come the substitution that should've been done earlier and it results in the goal. That was the only substitute made, and even after the goal we never threatened. Why not bring Pilkingnton off who starts out wide, then almost goes upfront and doesn't threaten the full back and put on Kennedy, another winger who will stay wide and attack a full back who started shakily but never really got tested afterwards because of a cracking bit of tactical awareness. Oh yeh Kennedy wasn't even on the bench :lol:

I don't mind if we start the game with 4-4-2, I don't think it suits our players as well as 4-2-3-1 or even 3-5-2 but when it's obvious we are getting over run there has to be some sort of decision made on how to counteract what is going on and not just hoping we can cling on to what we have.

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:26 pm

You've just asked the impossible Steve. :laughing6:

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:30 pm

You have to be joking, dinosaur Slade only has one tactic (win, loose or draw) and thats 4-4-2.

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 12:58 pm

T1JMO wrote:You have to be joking, dinosaur Slade only has one tactic (win, loose or draw) and thats 4-4-2.


LOSE :lol:

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:02 pm

The whole point of this thread was to show that what ever formation we want it will usually be formed from the same players
No one has put up alternative players in many positions of various formations
Yes some want Fabio instead of Malone ,some even want Fabio on the wing instead of a winger
Yes some want watt instead of Jones up front ,which would leave a place for whitts or dk
But on the whole it's mainly the same players

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:11 pm

Why would he play Fabio, he leaves our best defenders on the bench remeber

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:40 pm

Gunnar as a holding midfielder ?

Why would any one want gunnarson is a position on the field where his obligatory three or four poor first touches gives the ball to the opposition in a dangerous position. There was a reason that Malky and Ole (as if that means anything) often played him in the tip of a diamond, not because he is David Silva, just to keep his fcuk ups further up field.

If there is one thing I agree with Angelis 49 on it Whitts and Gunnar can't play together, as Whitts needs players to receive the ball and will gladly take the return, he can't do that with Gunnar as it plays into his weakness, his lack of a decent first touch. I don't think it would be any different with Dikgacoi instead of Whitts.

Gunnar is a rampager (not sure if that word exists) he needs to be further up field and wreak havoc.

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 1:47 pm

Peltier Manga Connolly Fabio
..........Whitts
..... Ralls Gunnar
.Noone.................Watt
............Jones


Noone and Watt buzzing around Jones when we have the ball, dropping back either side of Ralls & Gunnar whilst defending.


But its not a 442, so be of a waste of time

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:06 pm

My 4-2-3-1 would be:

Marshall

Malone
Connolly
Manga
Peltier

Ralls
Dikgacoi

Noone
Gunnarsson
Pilkington

Watt

Ralls alongside Dikgacoi to pick up the ball from the defence and dictate the tempo, but driving forwards with Gunnarsson to turn it into a 4-1-4-1 system when attacking.

Gunnarsson, although not a number 10 is valuable away from home with his box to box engine and we all know what a threat he is driving forward and ghosting late into the box.

I think this is a very solid line up, I don't see us giving much away with this team which is what we need away from home.

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:08 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Peltier Manga Connolly Fabio
..........Whitts
..... Ralls Gunnar
.Noone.................Watt
............Jones


Noone and Watt buzzing around Jones when we have the ball, dropping back either side of Ralls & Gunnar whilst defending.


But its not a 442, so be of a waste of time

Take whitts out ,move watt central behind Jones and bring in a wide man on left pilks or Kennedy ,or even Fabio and I would be very happy

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:10 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Peltier Manga Connolly Fabio
..........Whitts
..... Ralls Gunnar
.Noone.................Watt
............Jones


Noone and Watt buzzing around Jones when we have the ball, dropping back either side of Ralls & Gunnar whilst defending.


But its not a 442, so be of a waste of time

Take whitts out ,move watt central behind Jones and bring in a wide man on left pilks or Kennedy ,or even Fabio and I would be very happy

Haha as much as I would like two Fabios you know what I meant

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:06 pm

4231 slade will think it's a dance step

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:18 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
KBK-13 wrote:Would love that to happen

My point is wether it's 4-4-2 or 4-2-3-1 it would more than likely be the same 11 players
Name your team in a 4-2-3-1 formation


Seeing as we're being accused of not being able to hold on to the good enough, I'd brings whitts back in.

Marshall
Peltier
Manga
Connolly
Fabio

Whitts
Gunnars
Ralls

Noone
Pilkington

Watt

Re: How about 4-2-3-1tonight

Tue Dec 29, 2015 7:11 pm

Not sure where the Kennedy live came from. McAleny was the player who actually showed promise from Everton. We rarely played Kennedy when we got him as far as I remember. Why is he suddenly the go to player to get in the squad?