Malky and leadership

I didn't like Malky. I though his brand of football was awful and didn't like the way some players were treated. I thought many fans too easily accepted 'anti football' because it was successful in our promotion year. For the money spent I expected better quality football. I understand though we are all different and that's football.

However where I have to give Malky huge credit was his ability to inspire leadership in a team. Hudson, a limited footballer, turned out to be one of city's greatest captains. Additionally all over the pitch players took responsibility and put in more than a shift demonstrating great character.

Literally we have no leaders and those players who lead well under Malky have either bizarrely left the club or are a shadow of their malky days.

There's no point in speculating about January and transfers because I haven't met one single fan who has faith in Slade. The only movement I'd like to see in January is Slade leaving.

After that then anything else would be a bonus. A new manager surely has to bring in an experianced outfield captain.

So many of us are so lethargic about Slade's Cardiff team that a January transfer window hardly seems like a positive opportunity.

VT needs to recoup £150m.

Now if I was the owner and my manager turned around to me and said that he would guarantee me a top 6 finish I would be absolutely livid.

If I am owed £150m and I provided the manager with the quality of players that we have at our disposal I would be wanting the manager to guarantee me top two.

Now some may say I am wrong but what do we have:

Scottish International Goalkeeper

4 Defenders each of whom would walk into most top 6 sides - (including a Brazilian International)

Iceland Captain who took them to Euro 2016
Several promising youngsters - one of whom has been compared to Aaron Ramsey
Other Midfielders who have played in the Premiership

Up fronton KWJ. Premiership Striker who still plays at International Level
Tony Watt. Champions League player who scored against Barcelona.

Now Im sorry. If that £150m was owed to you and you had this at your disposal - I am sure many of you would be p****d off if your manager couldnt guarantee you a return to the Premiership and a return on your investment.

I didn't like Malky both as a person and his brand of football but I will concede he did lead from the front and was out there on the touch line kicking every ball and barking orders to the players to do what he wanted them to do.

Hudson was signed by DJ so Malky can't take all the credit for him but as a group of players under Malky there was evidently more leaders.

VT needs to recoup £150m.

Now if I was the owner and my manager turned around to me and said that he would guarantee me a top 6 finish I would be absolutely livid.

If I am owed £150m and I provided the manager with the quality of players that we have at our disposal I would be wanting the manager to guarantee me top two.

Now some may say I am wrong but what do we have:

Scottish International Goalkeeper

4 Defenders each of whom would walk into most top 6 sides - (including a Brazilian International)

Iceland Captain who took them to Euro 2016
Several promising youngsters - one of whom has been compared to Aaron Ramsey
Other Midfielders who have played in the Premiership

Up fronton KWJ. Premiership Striker who still plays at International Level
Tony Watt. Champions League player who scored against Barcelona.

Now Im sorry. If that £150m was owed to you and you had this at your disposal - I am sure many of you would be p****d off if your manager couldnt guarantee you a return to the Premiership and a return on your investment.

A very interesting post, & one to which I have had similar thoughts. What I can't really understand is why VT would appoint & support someone with such limited, or no experience at all, at Championship level that is???

VT needs to recoup £150m.

Now if I was the owner and my manager turned around to me and said that he would guarantee me a top 6 finish I would be absolutely livid.

If I am owed £150m and I provided the manager with the quality of players that we have at our disposal I would be wanting the manager to guarantee me top two.

Now some may say I am wrong but what do we have:

Scottish International Goalkeeper

4 Defenders each of whom would walk into most top 6 sides - (including a Brazilian International)

Iceland Captain who took them to Euro 2016
Several promising youngsters - one of whom has been compared to Aaron Ramsey
Other Midfielders who have played in the Premiership

Up fronton KWJ. Premiership Striker who still plays at International Level
Tony Watt. Champions League player who scored against Barcelona.

Now Im sorry. If that £150m was owed to you and you had this at your disposal - I am sure many of you would be p****d off if your manager couldnt guarantee you a return to the Premiership and a return on your investment.

Sorry as much as I think Slade isn't getting the best out the squad at his disposal there's no way we should be guaranteed top 2.

Hull, Middlesbrough and Derby have far better squads and that's why they are contesting the autos.

We do have the best goalkeeper in the league but the defence wouldn't walk into The 3 sides mentioned a defence. Fabio is hardly a Brazilian international he played 2 games for them over 4 years ago and George Friend or the kid Robertson at Hull are as good as him going forward and far better defenders. Much is made of Manga who is a nice footballer no doubt but is he better at this level of football than the likes of Curtis Davies and Michael Turner at Hull or Ayala at Middlesbrough? I dnt think so.

Whoever compared Ralls to Ramsey, needs to give me the number to their dealer cos they must be smoking some good shit. He wouldn't get in any of their midfield with the likes of Clayton / Leadbitter at Boro, Livermore / Huddlestone / Diame at Hull and Derby have so many options in CM it's untrue. George Thorne, Jacob Butterfield, Bradley Johnson, Jeff Hendrick and that's without the injured Craig Bryson and Will Hughes, two of the best CMs in the division.

Then there's the attacking players would you take Tony Watt, Kenwynne Jones, Pilkington, No one and Ameobi over the likes of Martin, Ince, Weimann, Russell and Bent at Derby? No chance. Hull have got Hernandez, Akpom, Maloney, Snodgrass, Elamodhy and a lad Clucas who maybe we should have signed from Chesterfield instead of Doyle. I know we were linked with both.
Middlesbrough have Stewart Downing, once sold for nearly 20m and still only 31 plus players they've paid millions for such as David Nugent, Albert Adomah and Kike.

Of the rest I'd prob take Burnleys squad over ours, especially 9m striker Andre Gray so that leaves 5th and 6th we should really be competing for. The teams who are competing around there such as Brighton, Ipswich, Wednesday, Brum, Reading, QPR, Brentford.etc then I would take our squad all day long but would also take every one of their managers over ours too.

Finally, most of the 150m you talk about has been spent and long gone so as much as I can't stand Slade you can't put that down to him. There's no way Tans going to recoup anywhere near that it's dead money.

I think what won us promotion was we were fitter than every other team, so we got to every first ball, we tracked every opposition player back etc, that's why we managed a cup final with I think 4 extra times, and getting to thr play offs. He demanded every player work hard, we no longer have that. Yes under Malky we played anti football however when we played palace in the second leg of the league cup I have never seen city play so comfortable since. We played the 2 full backs to attack, had Mcphail play just in front of the back 4 and he dictated play with his passing, Whitts was immense and cowie and Conway both lacked pace but dominated the width

Malky was a pragmatist. I used to go home and moan about the oppression he handed out to the opposition, we didn't win through skill we beat them because we made fewer mistakes, that was our skill. The x factor was our set plays, Whitts was in a zone for the middle third of that season that made him almost score from corners they were that good and scarey for the goalies.
Malky achieved this through dominance, he was the leader of the club, the fans and the players, this is why i feel he can never be the same force, because he is weakened.
He realized that traditional wingers are useless, they both can't be in the game at the same time, so you are playing with a man down most of the time. Players like Nooney are great from the bench if you are down and need to gamble. Conway and Cowie bulked up the midfield and allowed Whitts to dictate the pace, they could deliver crosses if needed but why do you need crosses with one striker.
Hudson was a great leader but you felt that there was a bond between malky and the slipper and he lead the lads how Malky wanted.
I don't care how he treated the players, Malky was only just from being a player and knew they are mercenary t**ts, so fcuk them

The players played out of their skins under Malky it wasn't pretty we all know but it was effective and everyone was happy with the results until he got found out in the Prem I found Malky to be a passionate man and that was evident on the sidelines and his text book press conferences got boring after a while but we need someone inspiring like him at the moment.

VT needs to recoup £150m.

Now if I was the owner and my manager turned around to me and said that he would guarantee me a top 6 finish I would be absolutely livid.

If I am owed £150m and I provided the manager with the quality of players that we have at our disposal I would be wanting the manager to guarantee me top two.

Now some may say I am wrong but what do we have:

Scottish International Goalkeeper

4 Defenders each of whom would walk into most top 6 sides - (including a Brazilian International)

Iceland Captain who took them to Euro 2016
Several promising youngsters - one of whom has been compared to Aaron Ramsey
Other Midfielders who have played in the Premiership

Up fronton KWJ. Premiership Striker who still plays at International Level
Tony Watt. Champions League player who scored against Barcelona.

Now Im sorry. If that £150m was owed to you and you had this at your disposal - I am sure many of you would be p****d off if your manager couldnt guarantee you a return to the Premiership and a return on your investment.

There's not one player in our squad who comes close to Ramsey.

Kenwyn is past his best and is not a PL player any more. He's a championship player and one that's underperforming.

Just because a player scored one goal against Barcelona doesn't mean he's worthy of being a champions league regular which I assume champions league player means.

Ok perhaps there was some "artistic licence" in my comments in respect to certain players. However the point I make is a clear one. We have a squad of very good players. RS should be saying to VT we will aim for top 2. Ok if we fail we might finish 4,5 or 6. The thing is when you aim for 6th the chances are you will miss your target and finish 8,9 or 10th.

Its the old boxing analogy. Punch beyond the brick wall and aim your sights high.

Now yesterday I was allocated the Everton-v-Stoke game to photograph. Our supporters deserve games like that week in week out and it is incredibly frustrating that those in charge dont set there targets higher.

Ok perhaps there was some "artistic licence" in my comments in respect to certain players. However the point I make is a clear one. We have a squad of very good players. RS should be saying to VT we will aim for top 2. Ok if we fail we might finish 4,5 or 6. The thing is when you aim for 6th the chances are you will miss your target and finish 8,9 or 10th.

Its the old boxing analogy. Punch beyond the brick wall and aim your sights high.

Now yesterday I was allocated the Everton-v-Stoke game to photograph. Our supporters deserve games like that week in week out and it is incredibly frustrating that those in charge dont set there targets higher.

Good post, Paul

If he was still in charge we would still be in the Premier

If he was still in charge we would still be in the Premier

Malky let the fans down badly by getting into a petty argument with Tan, where we backed him when if we had been in full possession of the facts we probably shouldn't have. He then failed badly at Wigan. Football clubs care little about off field activities if results are achieved, but the fact that he is still out of work says it all. Although Slade is uninspiring in many ways, I prefer him to Malky at the moment

He also let the fans down by going fecking nuts with a transfer budget when we went up. However, surely the club also have to take some responsibility as they let him get away with it.