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" Time to offload Kenwyne "

Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:56 am

I strongly believe Kenwyne is the main reason we have lost our last 2 games and he will continually let us down for the rest of the season now he's sulking after our new contract offer. I have never seen a player get slated as much as Kenwyne by the pundits during the Birmingham game, and rightfully so.

Personally, I would currently play 4-5-1 and play Watt up front on his own, as we have no other decent strikers. Even if we only offload Kenwyne on a free, we could use his £37,500 a week wages to bring in a more consistent, dependable striker on loan. Someone like Jelavic perhaps?

Who would currently want a lazy, unreliable, frustrating, inconsistent mercenary like Kenwyne at their club on a £37,500 a week wage mind? I'm just pleased Slade is looking to sign Watt permanently, plus bring in another striker who could hopefully have a similar impact to Watt, or at the very least, TRY to give his all for us.

Re: Time to offload Kenwyne

Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:15 pm

Agree he's just not worth the money you could get a top class foreign striker for that money

Re: Time to offload Kenwyne

Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:48 pm

I also agree but it's a shame as on his day he can be superb at this level.
His days are few and far between unfortunately.

You can bet though that if he does depart we won't bring in a player like Jelavic or someone on anywhere near the salary that Kenwynne earns.

Re: Time to offload Kenwyne

Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:02 pm

OriginalGrangeEndBlue wrote:I also agree but it's a shame as on his day he can be superb at this level.
His days are few and far between unfortunately.

You can bet though that if he does depart we won't bring in a player like Jelavic or someone on anywhere near the salary that Kenwynne earns.


Rightly so.

Re: Time to offload Kenwyne

Sun Dec 27, 2015 3:36 pm

I do love these posts... You realize there has to be a buyer to sell to.

We have a contract of employment with Jones until June 2016, in that time he will be paid around a million pound if the weekly figure is correct. For him to sign a contract to transfer to another club he would have to be on a similar amount of a lesser amount but with a couple of years, probably 2.5. How many clubs are going to stump up that.

It will cost us half a million to let him go on a free. Our best hope is a club like WBA or Sunderland have a gamble and offer him a decent 18 month contract and we let him go with no compensation. But, i can't see that happening, so we will be stuck with him until the summer, caring less and less as the weeks go by.

Re: Time to offload Kenwyne

Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:45 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I do love these posts... You realize there has to be a buyer to sell to.

We have a contract of employment with Jones until June 2016, in that time he will be paid around a million pound if the weekly figure is correct. For him to sign a contract to transfer to another club he would have to be on a similar amount of a lesser amount but with a couple of years, probably 2.5. How many clubs are going to stump up that.

It will cost us half a million to let him go on a free. Our best hope is a club like WBA or Sunderland have a gamble and offer him a decent 18 month contract and we let him go with no compensation. But, i can't see that happening, so we will be stuck with him until the summer, caring less and less as the weeks go by.


Did you read the last paragraph of my post? Bournemouth took him on loan last season so hopefully someone else will take a gamble on him to make a short term impact until the end of the season. At least that way we will get rid of the majority of his wages until his contract runs out.

Re: Time to offload Kenwyne

Sun Dec 27, 2015 4:47 pm

Just support another club, its less stressful. ;)

Re: Time to offload Kenwyne

Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:27 pm

I'd drop him. He's lazy, disinterested and dragging us down with him. I've been saying this for a long time, often amazed by posts singing his praises.

He might have scored a few goals but that was when we really had no other real strikers. Watt's work rate, skill and attitude put Jones to shame.

Get rid in January anyway possible and leave him on the bench till then.

Worst kind of footballer in my books!

Re: Time to offload Kenwyne

Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:28 pm

Here f*cking Here and Ameobi aswell.

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Sun Dec 27, 2015 5:52 pm

Hes a waste of space he should never be in the team the lazy useless b*stard !

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:14 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I strongly believe Kenwyne is the main reason we have lost our last 2 games and he will continually let us down for the rest of the season now he's sulking after our new contract offer. I have never seen a player get slated as much as Kenwyne by the pundits during the Birmingham game, and rightfully so.

Personally, I would currently play 4-5-1 and play Watt up front on his own, as we have no other decent strikers. Even if we only offload Kenwyne on a free, we could use his £37,500 a week wages to bring in a more consistent, dependable striker on loan. Someone like Jelavic perhaps?

Who would currently want a lazy, unreliable, frustrating, inconsistent mercenary like Kenwyne at their club on a £37,500 a week wage mind? I'm just pleased Slade is looking to sign Watt permanently, plus bring in another striker who could hopefully have a similar impact to Watt, or at the very least, TRY to give his all for us.

He's just another football mercenary! Too many of these in football these days I'm afraid! Get rid as soon as possible!

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:22 pm

Nothing wrong with kenweyne. SLADE is the problem :sladeout: asap.

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:26 pm

drivingblue wrote:Nothing wrong with kenweyne. SLADE is the problem :sladeout: asap.

Plenty wrong with both of them IMO throw in Tan as well to make it a threesome!

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:27 pm

drivingblue wrote:Nothing wrong with kenweyne. SLADE is the problem :sladeout: asap.

Plenty wrong with both of them IMO throw in Tan as well to make it a threesome!

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:36 pm

Both jones and ameobi should not be playing.

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Sun Dec 27, 2015 6:41 pm

drivingblue wrote:Nothing wrong with kenweyne. SLADE is the problem :sladeout: asap.

Agreed. Watching the highlights from yesterday the OP is talking out of his arse as usual.

He set up a couple of chances with good hold up play, was denied a goal by brilliant defending, lost his marker for a tap in if he got a cut back from Gunarsson who selfishly went himself, and cleared one off the line at 1-1.

Let's get rid of KJ and bring the headless chicken Revell back in shall we. Dear lord.

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:07 pm

polo wrote:
drivingblue wrote:Nothing wrong with kenweyne. SLADE is the problem :sladeout: asap.

Agreed. Watching the highlights from yesterday the OP is talking out of his arse as usual.

He set up a couple of chances with good hold up play, was denied a goal by brilliant defending, lost his marker for a tap in if he got a cut back from Gunarsson who selfishly went himself, and cleared one off the line at 1-1.

Let's get rid of KJ and bring the headless chicken Revell back in shall we. Dear lord.

Polo you speak so much sense? I enjoy most of your posts but honestly do you really think Kenwyne is the right sort of player for City? Can you ever see Kenwyne busting a gut to get to a near post cross with boots flying to score a winning goal in the last few minutes? He's not worth the money he gets paid he just doesn't do enough!

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:16 pm

He can't be bothered to celebrate his goals or the goals of fellow team mates. A sure sign that he doesn't give a shit. Let him go and get two players in on his wages. Hopefully with a bit of skill, pace and willing to run through brick walls for team mates and our fans. :bluescarf:

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:38 pm

polo wrote:
drivingblue wrote:Nothing wrong with kenweyne. SLADE is the problem :sladeout: asap.

Agreed. Watching the highlights from yesterday the OP is talking out of his arse as usual.

He set up a couple of chances with good hold up play, was denied a goal by brilliant defending, lost his marker for a tap in if he got a cut back from Gunarsson who selfishly went himself, and cleared one off the line at 1-1.

Let's get rid of KJ and bring the headless chicken Revell back in shall we. Dear lord.


It's a valid opinion.

Considering Jones was utter shit last year.

Put it this way as well, last year he scored 13 goals,9 of them coming at the beginning of the campaign. That is his highest goal tally in one season since 2005. That is the striker we pay 40 grand a week.

He was non existent under Solksjaer. I can remember sitting there in the ground thinking he was one of the least determined players ive ever witnessed. No skill on the ball whatsoever. But he can win a few headers. And is the focal point of all our play, so winning some headers and making simply passes is guaranteed.

Career total 328 games 105 goals - With half of them being scored in the championship.

He will never, ever score the goals the goals to get us promoted

He scored 28 goals in ALL competitions for Stoke, in over a 4 year period. That was him at his peak.

People give him too much credit. When the occasional good performance makes up for the awful games surrounding it.

And strikers like him are a dime a dozen. Heskey still does kenwynes jones' job equally or better and he is close to retirement at 37.

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:47 pm

polo wrote:
drivingblue wrote:Nothing wrong with kenweyne. SLADE is the problem :sladeout: asap.

Agreed. Watching the highlights from yesterday the OP is talking out of his arse as usual.

He set up a couple of chances with good hold up play, was denied a goal by brilliant defending, lost his marker for a tap in if he got a cut back from Gunarsson who selfishly went himself, and cleared one off the line at 1-1.

Let's get rid of KJ and bring the headless chicken Revell back in shall we. Dear lord.


I was at the game, and that was the worst I've ever seen KJ play. Strolled around the pitch, made no effort to challenge for most balls in the air and just looked disinterested

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:34 am

Lanwood wrote:
polo wrote:
drivingblue wrote:Nothing wrong with kenweyne. SLADE is the problem :sladeout: asap.

Agreed. Watching the highlights from yesterday the OP is talking out of his arse as usual.

He set up a couple of chances with good hold up play, was denied a goal by brilliant defending, lost his marker for a tap in if he got a cut back from Gunarsson who selfishly went himself, and cleared one off the line at 1-1.

Let's get rid of KJ and bring the headless chicken Revell back in shall we. Dear lord.

Polo you speak so much sense? I enjoy most of your posts but honestly do you really think Kenwyne is the right sort of player for City? Can you ever see Kenwyne busting a gut to get to a near post cross with boots flying to score a winning goal in the last few minutes? He's not worth the money he gets paid he just doesn't do enough!


Jones isn't that type of player never will be anyone that thinks that is what he should be doing has no idea about the game

Should he Be on the money we pay him NO that I'll agree with but to suggest a player over 6ft who has very little pace should be making runs to the near post is ludicrous especially when this player even in his prime didn't have the pace to beat a central defender IMO makes you a total buffoon

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Mon Dec 28, 2015 12:39 am

Depressed Blue wrote:
polo wrote:
drivingblue wrote:Nothing wrong with kenweyne. SLADE is the problem :sladeout: asap.

Agreed. Watching the highlights from yesterday the OP is talking out of his arse as usual.

He set up a couple of chances with good hold up play, was denied a goal by brilliant defending, lost his marker for a tap in if he got a cut back from Gunarsson who selfishly went himself, and cleared one off the line at 1-1.

Let's get rid of KJ and bring the headless chicken Revell back in shall we. Dear lord.


It's a valid opinion.

Considering Jones was utter shit last year.

Put it this way as well, last year he scored 13 goals,9 of them coming at the beginning of the campaign. That is his highest goal tally in one season since 2005. That is the striker we pay 40 grand a week.

He was non existent under Solksjaer. I can remember sitting there in the ground thinking he was one of the least determined players ive ever witnessed. No skill on the ball whatsoever. But he can win a few headers. And is the focal point of all our play, so winning some headers and making simply passes is guaranteed.

Career total 328 games 105 goals - With half of them being scored in the championship.

He will never, ever score the goals the goals to get us promoted

He scored 28 goals in ALL competitions for Stoke, in over a 4 year period. That was him at his peak.

People give him too much credit. When the occasional good performance makes up for the awful games surrounding it.

And strikers like him are a dime a dozen. Heskey still does kenwynes jones' job equally or better and he is close to retirement at 37.



Another idiot he's not in the side to be the main goalscorer

Did crouch in his prime ever score 20 goals season in season out?

If you think he's here to run close down defenders put himself about your very deluded

His role is to win headers flick ons hold the ball up and link play if he chips in with 10 Goals a season from set plays and the odd one in open play then he's done what the manager wants if you think he's gonna bust a gut to beat men or chase down lost causes you really have no clue and you'd be better off train spotting

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Mon Dec 28, 2015 10:19 am

Smakz has more or less answered for me. He's never going to run around like a headless chicken and doesn't have the pace to make these near post runs in front of the defender. The one Holloway was getting his little bald head wobbling over against Brum I don't think Usain Bolton would have got there.

He's in the team to get it into him and work off him. If we played 433/451 like Derby do with Watt and No one off him and Ralls / Gunnar supporting, Whitts holding then I'm sure it would work better for us. The way we currently set up we've got touch line wingers who don't even got crossed in for him to feed off, and the CMs are expected to make up too much ground to support the forwards. He also doesn't get the credit for his defending at oppositions set pieces.

No I don't think he should be on the money he's on it he was given the contract in the premiership. If the club then didn't put a relegation clause in then that's not his fault. Do you expect him to say "half my wages" of his own accord?!? Get real. Not one person on this forum would go and ask for or agree to a pay cut in the region of 50% when the owner of their company is a billionaire!!!!

There's no doubt he's frustrating, massively frustrating on times but you can't change someone's demeanour not at his age. Then again I've always liked players who are laid back such as Bothroyd, Whitts, The 3 Jason's - Koumas, Bowen and Fowler, Nathan Blake. Etc. All players who look as if they can't be arsed but have magic in their boots to change the game.

Give me players like that over your Stokers, Ainsworths, Cowies, Revells any day of the week.

People are saying to get rid but with no transfer fee to regenerate what is the alternative? Alex f*cking Revell just cos he "puts a shift in" then god f*cking help.

So thanks but no thanks I'll take a hit and miss Kenwynne over someone who puts a shift in but no actual ability.

Re: " Time to offload Kenwyne "

Mon Dec 28, 2015 4:04 pm

moonboots wrote:He can't be bothered to celebrate his goals or the goals of fellow team mates. A sure sign that he doesn't give a shit. Let him go and get two players in on his wages. Hopefully with a bit of skill, pace and willing to run through brick walls for team mates and our fans. :bluescarf:

I think that was taking out of context you do realise that our players smothered him after the first goal he scored and he was limping after the second goal I hardly expect him to do a cartwheel