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' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:31 am

' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

My opinion/view

Slade was and still is surrounded by Quality players and his problem is, he does not know what to do with these player,how to handle them, wary of quality players after spending all his career with lower division players.

Slade says when he came to City well over a year ago the squad was unfit,so he reckons he sorted that out.

Sade got rid of what some say were big time charlies and problem players.

Slade has brought in 15 of his own players, yet hardly ever plays most of them and only Peltier is guaranteed to start of Slades players.

Slade can't make up his mind on players like Manga and Fabio?


Slade has not given all the squad a chance?

Slade has No plan B?

Sade gets outwitted by many managers?

Your Opinions Please :thumbright: What is Slades problem as a manager?

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:35 am

Give him a rubber ring and armbands cos he's out of his depth.

By his own admission his job is 80% man management and 20% tactics. His hero is Howard Kendall.

Outdated views I'm afraid but whilst we've got a decent squad he will continue to win some games because we have the quality but the moment he comes up against a tactical manager he gets out thought.

Of 7 subs today we had a GL and 4 defensive players. He then proceeds to just use one sub knowing we've got a busy schedule. The guy is oblivious to the modern times.

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:39 am

Russell has no plan b we all know that he will always play 442 no matter what and doesn't have the right players for it and can't adapt and needs to realize that Jones and Ameobi are no good but i think he is good at man management and probably a good motivator but that's where it ends he has done what he had to do cut the wage bill and stabilize us and with his contract ending at the end of the season there is really no point giving him a transfer window now just let him go after the Forest game which would be fitting as his first game in charge was against Forest at home so get Bellamy or some young manager with fresh ideas see if we can push on and make that extra step for a play off place.

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:43 am

Forever Blue wrote:' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

My opinion/view

Slade was and still is surrounded by Quality players and his problem is, he does not know what to do with these player,how to handle them, wary of quality players after spending all his career with lower division players.

Slade says when he came to City well over a year ago the squad was unfit,so he reckons he sorted that out.

Sade got rid of what some say were big time charlies and problem players.

Slade has brought in 15 of his own players, yet hardly ever plays most of them and only Peltier is guaranteed to start of Slades players.

Slade can't make up his mind on players like Manga and Fabio?


Slade has not given all the squad a chance?

Slade has No plan B?

Sade gets outwitted by many managers?

Your Opinions Please :thumbright: What is Slades problem as a manager?

Slade's problem as a manager is he's our manager

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:53 am

I agree,

He doesn't know how best to use quality players! He says we lack quality infront of goal! We had proven goal scorers but Slade alienated them! We had pace and skill again, we let them go!

Slades team selection and bench is baffling! Ameobis final ball again today on a number of occasions was poor! Our bench though was far too negative! Digacoi. Whitts and Okeefe? Where was some different forward options, ie Kennedy or mancheda! Only positive player was noone and look what he did! Offers far more to the game than Ameobi!

Slades main fault though is that he doesn't know how to change the game, he reacts far too late to the opposition! He doesn't know how best to alter from his current system! This shows he lacks quality! There's a reason why he's managed 700 games or so at league 1,2 and non league! Our last 5 games we were more than capable of taking maximum points! Today's result though shows he is just not the man to take us forward! No wins from Bristol city, Rotherham, Preston or mk Dons who were all in bottom 3 or 4 when we played them, all winless for a long period of time! You could add Leeds to that list too who were on a shocker of a run until they played us!

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 7:11 am

totally aggree m8 out of his depth :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout: :sladeout:

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:15 am

Slade is completely out of his depth. He does not know how and when to use his substitutes and is out thought by other managers in the championship. Luckily for Slade he has a good squad of players, nearly all at the club before he came, and therefore wins some matches because of those players not because of his tactics. A good championship manager would have The City in the top 3 or 4 now and not outside the top 6.
Look what Leicester and Watford have achieved with good managers. We were playing and beating them not so long ago. With a good manager Cardiff City could have been up there with them.

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:31 am

To me it looks like he cant communicate with our team. He is motionless on the side and offers us zero direction in coaching our game plan.
I have wanted him gone since November 14 tbh and strongly feel if he stays we are going to lose many more thousands of bums on seats. As fans we cannot relate to him, he offers the same lame excuses week after week.

A decent manager would have this side in the upper half of play offs by now.

I hope Mamma Tan tells Vince what to do again or RS walks away :sladeout:
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Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:31 am

When I heard we were looking at Russell Slade, I had never really heard of him despite how long he had been in the game!

I looked at his achievements and they were pretty small! He hasn't actually won a promotion with any team he's been In charge of!

3 managers of the month and 2 managers of the year in his whole career! Hardly a suitable candidate to rake a team up from the championship when he's never managed at this level previously and never won promotion at all! Normally when u dip into the lower leagues its for a hungry up and coming younger manager not an aging dinosaur with a similar management style to Mike Bassett! (Prob picks his team the same way)!

I really didn't want us to appoint Slade but understood why we couldn't afford a top manager! There were still other managers available that I would have preffered! I'm struggling to give this guy my support! I've tried to understand what he is doing but he not taking us in the direction we should be going with the squad we have. He can't adapt during a game, he alienates talented players as he doesn't know a system suitable to accommodate! He only knows how to play a game 1 way and he is far to late to make the right changes!

For the good of this club he needs to go! And he needs to go now!! Not end of season! If we wait til then we will have less season ticket sales again!

The fans need a lift, a fresh face, someone with passion and pulling power!

But who is listening to us???

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:45 am

He was brought in to streamline the squad. That is the problem he is facing.

That means it is going to be very difficult to bring in the right players we all want. Our best bet is to go for players who are a high risk but need to prove themselves like Tony Watt. We need 11 of Tony's and that is extremely unlikely.

Of course supporters are questioning his tactics. His one and only preferred 442 comes to mind. Well my opinion is that he could not play 451 until the arrival of Watts. He simple did not have the striker for that. Macheda was the closest he had but he is a crock at the moment. Now Watts is here it will be interesting if he will experiment now.

My real concern about the guy though is the second half syndrome we are suffering at the moment. He sets his team up that has been having the edge for the first 45 minutes. That edge is lost in the second 45 minutes. That is mystifying.

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:50 am

Not even sure he's got a plan A. Makes DJ seem a tactical genius. If we really want to have a shout then he has to go. How about Jimmy Floyd....shit, too late!

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:52 am

Tuesday night is going to be intense unless we start well from the off.

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:52 am

Way out of his depth, he has decent players but doean't have a clue how to use them, but we are sruck with him until at least the end of season when Tan will give him a wedge to say he is leaving us :ayatollah:

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:01 am

polo wrote:Give him a rubber ring and armbands cos he's out of his depth.

By his own admission his job is 80% man management and 20% tactics. His hero is Howard Kendall.

Outdated views I'm afraid but whilst we've got a decent squad he will continue to win some games because we have the quality but the moment he comes up against a tactical manager he gets out thought.

Of 7 subs today we had a GL and 4 defensive players. He then proceeds to just use one sub knowing we've got a busy schedule. The guy is oblivious to the modern times.

Off course he had defensive subs. Has been his biggest problem of late, protecting a lead. Thought he came prepared this
this time. Only it didn't play out like that. Next time he will have 4 strikers though, if we have that many. Wait and see, he IS that stupid :lol:

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:07 am

bluespeers wrote:Way out of his depth, he has decent players but doean't have a clue how to use them, but we are sruck with him until at least the end of season when Tan will give him a wedge to say he is leaving us :ayatollah:



Just not good enough is the phrase and can only get worse :sladeout:

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:18 am

Look I want him gone now

But let's just calm down for a minute and think before shouting the same old same old

Yesterday I was not there ( yes I know but only 3rd away game missed this season ) I did not listen to the game on radio ,but managed to follow the game on this forum
Now most on here including annis was saying we battered them first half and could/ should have been out of site ,so the team that slade put out was doing ok

Those same players then let him, themselves ,and our fans down badly with that 2nd half performance

Fans including annis have been very voiceiferous in calling for Bruno manga to start he did yesterday and we conceded 2 goals and lost ,again letting a goal against us in the 90 minute .

These situations of late goals and points lost late in the game surely are down to the players on the pitch who ever they are

Let's not get carried away ,our squad may be not quite as good as we as fans believe

IMO opinion we are doing as well as I expected (which was that any improvement above last season 11th place ) would be a good season ,

This squad needs taking apart and re building totally with younger hungry players on realistic basic wages with high bonuses for success

Slade is not the man for doing this ,but if that's the way we need to go ,who ever comes in to do that kind of job will need time and more importantly the fans backing from the start

Not the kind of support / criticism that slade has endured from day one

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 10:38 am

All I'm gonna say is we got a promotion contending team which is being managed the wrong way.if we got in a decent manager we would smoke this league.

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:39 am

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
polo wrote:Give him a rubber ring and armbands cos he's out of his depth.

By his own admission his job is 80% man management and 20% tactics. His hero is Howard Kendall.

Outdated views I'm afraid but whilst we've got a decent squad he will continue to win some games because we have the quality but the moment he comes up against a tactical manager he gets out thought.

Of 7 subs today we had a GL and 4 defensive players. He then proceeds to just use one sub knowing we've got a busy schedule. The guy is oblivious to the modern times.

Off course he had defensive subs. Has been his biggest problem of late, protecting a lead. Thought he came prepared this
this time. Only it didn't play out like that. Next time he will have 4 strikers though, if we have that many. Wait and see, he IS that stupid :lol:



You don't prepare defensively against a team struggling in the bottom 3! We had no attacking option on the bench apart from Noone and we saw what happened when he was introduced! We needed a mancheda or a Kennedy as an extra attacking option! Not 3 holding central midfielders who we have failed to use when needed in our last 3 home games!

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 11:43 am

Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
polo wrote:Give him a rubber ring and armbands cos he's out of his depth.

By his own admission his job is 80% man management and 20% tactics. His hero is Howard Kendall.

Outdated views I'm afraid but whilst we've got a decent squad he will continue to win some games because we have the quality but the moment he comes up against a tactical manager he gets out thought.

Of 7 subs today we had a GL and 4 defensive players. He then proceeds to just use one sub knowing we've got a busy schedule. The guy is oblivious to the modern times.

Off course he had defensive subs. Has been his biggest problem of late, protecting a lead. Thought he came prepared this
this time. Only it didn't play out like that. Next time he will have 4 strikers though, if we have that many. Wait and see, he IS that stupid :lol:



You don't prepare defensively against a team struggling in the bottom 3! We had no attacking option on the bench apart from Noone and we saw what happened when he was introduced! We needed a mancheda or a Kennedy as an extra attacking option! Not 3 holding central midfielders who we have failed to use when needed in our last 3 home games!

We dont know all the ins and outs! Maybe O`keefe was an attacking option? Like Ben Turner was brought along as a Striker last year when he had 3 Central defenders on the bench :old:

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:11 pm

Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
Blackwood_Bluebird wrote:
Scandinavianbluebird wrote:
polo wrote:Give him a rubber ring and armbands cos he's out of his depth.

By his own admission his job is 80% man management and 20% tactics. His hero is Howard Kendall.

Outdated views I'm afraid but whilst we've got a decent squad he will continue to win some games because we have the quality but the moment he comes up against a tactical manager he gets out thought.

Of 7 subs today we had a GL and 4 defensive players. He then proceeds to just use one sub knowing we've got a busy schedule. The guy is oblivious to the modern times.

Off course he had defensive subs. Has been his biggest problem of late, protecting a lead. Thought he came prepared this
this time. Only it didn't play out like that. Next time he will have 4 strikers though, if we have that many. Wait and see, he IS that stupid :lol:



You don't prepare defensively against a team struggling in the bottom 3! We had no attacking option on the bench apart from Noone and we saw what happened when he was introduced! We needed a mancheda or a Kennedy as an extra attacking option! Not 3 holding central midfielders who we have failed to use when needed in our last 3 home games!

We dont know all the ins and outs! Maybe O`keefe was an attacking option? Like Ben Turner was brought along as a Striker last year when he had 3 Central defenders on the bench :old:



I really think you're understanding the point! The guy is inept and has no tactical knowledge to change the game as he did not have a point of difference on the bench that could change the game! Like an attacking threat I believe is the point Blackwood Bluebird is making & you can't do that when you have no such players named in your match day squad.

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:13 pm

He has just been found out, that's all. This Mike Bassett experiment has yielded predictable results.

He has steadied the lunacy post Malky and Ole, but this is as far as he can take us, mid-table with a quite large wage bill. Would a new manager be a difference maker, I believe so, but I can't see Tan relinquishing control unless he makes Slade the Director of Football.

Re: ' Russell Slade /His Problem? '

Sun Dec 27, 2015 12:33 pm

llan bluebird wrote:He has just been found out, that's all. This Mike Bassett experiment has yielded predictable results.

He has steadied the lunacy post Malky and Ole, but this is as far as he can take us, mid-table with a quite large wage bill. Would a new manager be a difference maker, I believe so, but I can't see Tan relinquishing control unless he makes Slade the Director of Football.




Good comment, in my opinion we are underachieving with the current squad! It's like we are settling for mid table! Win a couple, lose a couple! Sell a few players, bring 1 or 2 in no better than what we had! Slade has done as much as he can I believe and if we truly want to push on as a club we do need a change! If we continue on this current path, season tkt sales will drop again, crowds will become even lower! A fresh face will bring renewed optimism, there would still be time for a play off push this season!