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" Seen that different to the critics "

Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:05 am

Sorry but I seen last nights game totally different to the critics just waiting to pounce because hey we lost a game one nil. We are what we are at the moment. I thought CArdiff played some really decent stuff, it certanily wasn't boring. Birmingham deserved nothing had the luck with the pen and was always going to be difficult after that.

We massively lacked with that final ball, didn't punish them and it was a dissapointing result against a side struggling. Our away form continues to be a problem. Fabio aside and maybe sammy is debatable that was our strongest team and one which most have asked for. Just fooyball and we lost. 1win 1draw 1defeat against out rivals, not great not s travesty.

On to the next game :thumbup:

Re: Seen that different to the critics

Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:13 am

Agreed, it was frustrating because we deserved at least a point, but we didn't really create any clear cut chances, but Ameobi and Manga both should've scored.

We very rarely peg a team back and put them under constant pressure, when you look at how Burnley, Sheffield Wednesday and Brentford made us drop back and didn't allow us to get out I just wonder why can't we do that to teams. You could see all 3 sides mentioned were going to score, but we didn't look likely.

Tony Watt, different class again

Re: Seen that different to the critics

Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:16 am

That's a good honest opinion,I just don't think our players are as good as some posters think they are.Having scored 10 goals in our last 4 matches I was optimistic before the game but our final ball/finishing was not there last night.

Re: Seen that different to the critics

Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:30 am

I think Slade is riding the back of Tony Watt. If Tan doesn't stump up the cash its going to be a boring second half of the season.

Its all about your football perspective. I like to see us owning and controlling the game more. Every game recently is like an FA cup do or die, we never appear to be in control of our own destiny. Wednesday and Burnley came back, we scored a last kick winner on Tuesday and yesterday looked toothless with a gaping hole in the middle of the park.Its exciting but is it professional ?

I agree with Slicker we'll win more than we lose at home, but won't win many away. I had us down as 8th ~ 12th in the league and i can not see a reason for revising that opinion. With that in mind, if Bellers is the plan, bring him in now to see what he has to work with.

Re: Seen that different to the critics

Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:01 am

KBK-13 wrote:Agreed, it was frustrating because we deserved at least a point, but we didn't really create any clear cut chances, but Ameobi and Manga both should've scored.

We very rarely peg a team back and put them under constant pressure, when you look at how Burnley, Sheffield Wednesday and Brentford made us drop back and didn't allow us to get out I just wonder why can't we do that to teams. You could see all 3 sides mentioned were going to score, but we didn't look likely.

Tony Watt, different class again


I agree we don't peg teams back until they ultimately buckle, our home form is tremendous and away we still haven't found the magic formula. Watt is different class, strong as well :thumbup:

Re: Seen that different to the critics

Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:03 am

theclaw wrote:That's a good honest opinion,I just don't think our players are as good as some posters think they are.Having scored 10 goals in our last 4 matches I was optimistic before the game but our final ball/finishing was not there last night.


I agree but they certanily not as bad as others also think. Such unrealistic demanding fans. We are CArdiff not Madrid. :thumbup:

Re: Seen that different to the critics

Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:05 am

llan bluebird wrote:I think Slade is riding the back of Tony Watt. If Tan doesn't stump up the cash its going to be a boring second half of the season.

Its all about your football perspective. I like to see us owning and controlling the game more. Every game recently is like an FA cup do or die, we never appear to be in control of our own destiny. Wednesday and Burnley came back, we scored a last kick winner on Tuesday and yesterday looked toothless with a gaping hole in the middle of the park.Its exciting but is it professional ?

I agree with Slicker we'll win more than we lose at home, but won't win many away. I had us down as 8th ~ 12th in the league and i can not see a reason for revising that opinion. With that in mind, if Bellers is the plan, bring him in now to see what he has to work with.


Decent post, got to agree with that and on current form your prediction won't be wrong. I do still feel we are very close to being a side that will win two out of three instead of one and a draw like recently. We aren't far off but fine lines :thumbup:

Re: Seen that different to the critics

Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:38 am

Stringfellow wrote:
theclaw wrote:That's a good honest opinion,I just don't think our players are as good as some posters think they are.Having scored 10 goals in our last 4 matches I was optimistic before the game but our final ball/finishing was not there last night.


I agree but they certanily not as bad as others also think. Such unrealistic demanding fans. We are CArdiff not Madrid. :thumbup:

We have failed to see off a few sides this season that have been on a poor runs themselves , our record is poor against lowly opposition

Re: Seen that different to the critics

Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:54 am

7777 glt wrote:
Stringfellow wrote:
theclaw wrote:That's a good honest opinion,I just don't think our players are as good as some posters think they are.Having scored 10 goals in our last 4 matches I was optimistic before the game but our final ball/finishing was not there last night.


I agree but they certanily not as bad as others also think. Such unrealistic demanding fans. We are CArdiff not Madrid. :thumbup:

We have failed to see off a few sides this season that have been on a poor runs themselves , our record is poor against lowly opposition


Totally agree, and we made a habit of this over the years but equally sides in the Championship don't just roll over especially away. Dissapointed

Re: " Seen that different to the critics "

Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:02 pm

We didnt play with enough intensity yesterday and looked sluggish hopefully it was a one off.

Re: " Seen that different to the critics "

Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:09 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:We didnt play with enough intensity yesterday and looked sluggish hopefully it was a one off.


Could be the fact that it's 3 games in 6 days

Re: " Seen that different to the critics "

Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:11 pm

gwentbluebirds wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:We didnt play with enough intensity yesterday and looked sluggish hopefully it was a one off.


Could be the fact that it's 3 games in 6 days


Yeah i would put it down to that aswell.

Re: " Seen that different to the critics "

Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:13 pm

Birmingham, by their own manager's admission, always allow the opposition plenty of possession and base their game on a counter attacking approach.

Rowett said after the game that they have tried to play in different ways but they haven't suited his players and therefore, quite correctly, having tried to play in different ways, he resorted to a system which best suits his players.

That's why we had so much possession during the game -they were happy to let us have the ball, particularly when they saw how wasteful we were being with it.

Slade, however, by starting Malone in front of Fabio, was obviously trying to make sure that we were stronger defensively due to Fabio's perceived weakness at defending ( which I don't agree with).

Another example of Slade's conservative approach to games - his first thought is always to worry about the oppositon rather than being positive with the players we have.

Re: " Seen that different to the critics "

Sat Dec 19, 2015 3:24 pm

davids wrote:Birmingham, by their own manager's admission, always allow the opposition plenty of possession and base their game on a counter attacking approach.

Rowett said after the game that they have tried to play in different ways but they haven't suited his players and therefore, quite correctly, having tried to play in different ways, he resorted to a system which best suits his players.

That's why we had so much possession during the game -they were happy to let us have the ball, particularly when they saw how wasteful we were being with it.

Slade, however, by starting Malone in front of Fabio, was obviously trying to make sure that we were stronger defensively due to Fabio's perceived weakness at defending ( which I don't agree with).

Another example of Slade's conservative approach to games - his first thought is always to worry about the oppositon rather than being positive with the players we have.

Or maybe just maybe Slade was telling it as it is when he said the changes were due to fresh legs. Malone is still a decent attack minded full back and 3 in 6 requires rotation

Re: " Seen that different to the critics "

Sat Dec 19, 2015 4:46 pm

Usually agree with you mate, and although I agree that it's not a tragedy I'm starting to get very frustrated about players like Fabio being on the bench and Manga only being forced in through injury. Also, I thought the game was very boring and although we kept possession well we didn't get out of second gear

Re: " Seen that different to the critics "

Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:11 pm

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
davids wrote:Birmingham, by their own manager's admission, always allow the opposition plenty of possession and base their game on a counter attacking approach.

Rowett said after the game that they have tried to play in different ways but they haven't suited his players and therefore, quite correctly, having tried to play in different ways, he resorted to a system which best suits his players.

That's why we had so much possession during the game -they were happy to let us have the ball, particularly when they saw how wasteful we were being with it.

Slade, however, by starting Malone in front of Fabio, was obviously trying to make sure that we were stronger defensively due to Fabio's perceived weakness at defending ( which I don't agree with).

Another example of Slade's conservative approach to games - his first thought is always to worry about the oppositon rather than being positive with the players we have.

Or maybe just maybe Slade was telling it as it is when he said the changes were due to fresh legs. Malone is still a decent attack minded full back and 3 in 6 requires rotation


Why on earth did he pick Connolly and Morrison for all 3 games then if he wanted some fresh legs?

The best footballer at the club would have been sitting on the bench again for the whole match if Morrison had not been injured yesterday.

If he wanted to give a full back a rest then Peltier has been playing more than Malone recently so it would have made sense to rotate Fabio for Peltier.

No, Russel was being his usual conservative self again, giving the opposition far too much respect with his small club mentality.

Re: " Seen that different to the critics "

Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:30 pm

Some good, some bad and an abysmal ref. Defence good, midfield good, finishing awful. You win some, you lose some! However, more tactical awareness required!

Re: " Seen that different to the critics "

Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:07 pm

These games happen, bad decisions, poor finishing. Put it down as a bad day.
Bigger issue is the theme in performances and decisions

Re: " Seen that different to the critics "

Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:29 pm

I believe we are riding lady luck and hey ho we get what we get....

I wouldn't manage my business like this.