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Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:04 pm

How many passes into the front 2 ?

We have been riding the back of Tony Watt, he gets the ball just inside their half and goes for it.

we haven't got the players for yesterdecade 442 system

Re: Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:07 pm

I thought Ameobi had a corker tonight

Re: Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:39 pm

SILKY wrote:I thought Ameobi had a corker tonight


I thought all 4 played well. Finishing let us down. Apart from crap refereeing we had plenty of opportunities to have won. KJ disappointing

Re: Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:43 pm

why is watt dropping so deep to get the ball ? he is not getting the bll in the top third.

creating no chances

Re: Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:30 pm

llan bluebird wrote:why is watt dropping so deep to get the ball ? he is not getting the bll in the top third.

creating no chances


Didn't you not see his runs in the ball?? Besides when gunnar came off, awful decision, seemed like our midfield fell apart.

Re: Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:49 pm

The midfield had an off night i thought we just looked sluggish and lacklustre.

Re: Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:04 am

A couple of months ago it was Whitts fault we never created, bring Joe Ralls in from the left and play Gunnar was the cry. Well we had that and we according to the BBC had 10 chances, four fewer than Brum whilst both teams had three on target.

This isn't an anti Joe or Gunnar post, but an anti 442 without the players post !!!

Wingers who don't cross, a non moving target man. Ralls is now a sitting midfielder whilst Gunnar often charges up field leaving acres of space. Brum were poor, their best players sidelined and we couldn't score against a top half team again.......

The 4 players are not playing to their strength and we play 10 metres too deep. Drop Jones, push the midfield up and have a sitting midfielder Whitts home Dikgacoi away. All those four have goals in them. If we are losing take of our sitting midfielder and push another forward on.

I am just pissed off I have to endure another half season of this 1980's dogma.

Re: Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:26 pm

llan bluebird wrote:A couple of months ago it was Whitts fault we never created, bring Joe Ralls in from the left and play Gunnar was the cry. Well we had that and we according to the BBC had 10 chances, four fewer than Brum whilst both teams had three on target.

This isn't an anti Joe or Gunnar post, but an anti 442 without the players post !!!

Wingers who don't cross, a non moving target man. Ralls is now a sitting midfielder whilst Gunnar often charges up field leaving acres of space. Brum were poor, their best players sidelined and we couldn't score against a top half team again.......

The 4 players are not playing to their strength and we play 10 metres too deep. Drop Jones, push the midfield up and have a sitting midfielder Whitts home Dikgacoi away. All those four have goals in them. If we are losing take of our sitting midfielder and push another forward on.

I am just pissed off I have to endure another half season of this 1980's dogma.


And maybe the season beyond. ;)

Re: Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:53 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:A couple of months ago it was Whitts fault we never created, bring Joe Ralls in from the left and play Gunnar was the cry. Well we had that and we according to the BBC had 10 chances, four fewer than Brum whilst both teams had three on target.

This isn't an anti Joe or Gunnar post, but an anti 442 without the players post !!!

Wingers who don't cross, a non moving target man. Ralls is now a sitting midfielder whilst Gunnar often charges up field leaving acres of space. Brum were poor, their best players sidelined and we couldn't score against a top half team again.......

The 4 players are not playing to their strength and we play 10 metres too deep. Drop Jones, push the midfield up and have a sitting midfielder Whitts home Dikgacoi away. All those four have goals in them. If we are losing take of our sitting midfielder and push another forward on.

I am just pissed off I have to endure another half season of this 1980's dogma.


And maybe the season beyond. ;)


There is no way he is kept on........ The season tickets will barely pay the electricity bill.

Re: Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:08 pm

llan bluebird wrote:A couple of months ago it was Whitts fault we never created, bring Joe Ralls in from the left and play Gunnar was the cry. Well we had that and we according to the BBC had 10 chances, four fewer than Brum whilst both teams had three on target.

This isn't an anti Joe or Gunnar post, but an anti 442 without the players post !!!

Wingers who don't cross, a non moving target man. Ralls is now a sitting midfielder whilst Gunnar often charges up field leaving acres of space. Brum were poor, their best players sidelined and we couldn't score against a top half team again.......

The 4 players are not playing to their strength and we play 10 metres too deep. Drop Jones, push the midfield up and have a sitting midfielder Whitts home Dikgacoi away. All those four have goals in them. If we are losing take of our sitting midfielder and push another forward on.

I am just pissed off I have to endure another half season of this 1980's dogma.


I agree with this, Ralls infield has improved our play but he is starting to drop deeper for the ball. With Manga at centre half I think our defenders can move another 5 yards further forward because of his pace.

Re: Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:39 pm

KBK-13 wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:A couple of months ago it was Whitts fault we never created, bring Joe Ralls in from the left and play Gunnar was the cry. Well we had that and we according to the BBC had 10 chances, four fewer than Brum whilst both teams had three on target.

This isn't an anti Joe or Gunnar post, but an anti 442 without the players post !!!

Wingers who don't cross, a non moving target man. Ralls is now a sitting midfielder whilst Gunnar often charges up field leaving acres of space. Brum were poor, their best players sidelined and we couldn't score against a top half team again.......

The 4 players are not playing to their strength and we play 10 metres too deep. Drop Jones, push the midfield up and have a sitting midfielder Whitts home Dikgacoi away. All those four have goals in them. If we are losing take of our sitting midfielder and push another forward on.

I am just pissed off I have to endure another half season of this 1980's dogma.




I agree with this, Ralls infield has improved our play but he is starting to drop deeper for the ball. With Manga at centre half I think our defenders can move another 5 yards further forward because of his pace.


The answer is Digkacoi between Gunnar/Ralls and the back 4. Simples!

Re: Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:44 pm

llan bluebird wrote:why is watt dropping so deep to get the ball ? he is not getting the bll in the top third.

creating no chances


Only person with confidence looking to do anything. Only one usinbthe space to go past people.

No double noone could do the same given the freedom.

Re: Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:00 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:why is watt dropping so deep to get the ball ? he is not getting the bll in the top third.

creating no chances


Only person with confidence looking to do anything. Only one usinbthe space to go past people.

No double noone could do the same given the freedom.



We tried Nooney there last season and he couldn't do it.

Shit system, shit manager and i doubt any of the decent players actually listen t him as they know he won't be there next season

Re: Ameobi Ralls Gunnar Pilkington

Sat Dec 19, 2015 11:03 pm

The tactics don't suit him he looks shit scared of taking anyone on, IMO because he will be be done for losing the ball. He has adapted but half the player. He needs a move and will be a huge player for someone.