' YOU COULDN'T MAKE IT UP '

' YOU COULDN'T MAKE IT UP '

That was a get out of jail but anyone who was there will surely agree that for the majority of the game we looked excellent.

The " Slade Out " and " Sacked in the morning " chants were premature to say the least and personally I didn't agree with those chants either, I was as frustrated and angered by surrendering a two goal lead yet again but we didn't concede a lead and fall behind and I still believe, like I did on Saturday, that the players must be held responsible for part of the problem.

Let's face it tonight, and on Saturday, we could have been three or even four goals up before the oppositions scored, that is the way we set up to play but players didn't take the chances when they came.

But what worries me the most is when players stop doing the basics, not closing down and losing the 50/50's when the very time we need to be brave, where are the leaders on the pitch to stand up and spur the others on.

Players like Morrison and Gunnarsson should be leading the team when the backs are to the wall.

Slade is not blameless by any stretch but to put all the blame at his door is, in my opinion, unjustified.

Don't forget how many have celebrated and championed Paul Trollope for the upturn in performances since his arrival, but I dint see his name attributed to our collapses when commanding good leads.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Slade is unaccountable but fans should at least be consistent in their views. It seems to me that Slade is the easy target when or if it goes wrong but does not get any credit for the good that we do, that is quite sad.

I thought the substitution of Tony Watt, at 2-0, was the correct decision. We have a game in 3 days, a striker still striving towards full fitness and worked tirelessly this evening and was in my opinion man of the match, but he had done his job and I am assuming the decision was made to at least try and have him fully ready for Birmingham on Friday evening.

Not so long ago, fans including myself were calling for City to be more attacking, to score from open play, provide entertainment, how people expect us to achieve greatness in just a few games beggars belief.

With the squad we have I believe we should be challenging for the play offs at the very least, but in Russell Slade I never had the confidence we had the manager to deliver, so to be fair he has us challenging for the play off positions and that has exceeded my expectations under Slade so far, so try and at least get behind the team and support them and not turn on a manager during the game when there is so much at stake.

I wish I could have focuses on all the positives about us tonight, and I really wish the victory had been far more comfortable, but despite everything that happened on the pitch this evening, I feel more frustrated at the chants from the stands.

In the first half the Canton Stand called for Slade to do the ayatollah, in the second half 'Slade Out' chants and boos rang around the ground, then just five minutes later and the booing stopped, and the supporters cheered the team on the final whistle.

You couldn't make this stuff up !

You honestly could not make it up Carl

Carl that's the modern fan.

We're getting good entertaining football that everyone craved and still they moan
Like I said in another thread the defence needs tightening up and we're good to go. You can't please every one though Carl, if we were top of the league they'd still moan

You honestly could not make it up Carl

Infuriating Annis tbh

Carl that's the modern fan.

Just glad then Ryan I am an old school football fan.

We're getting good entertaining football that everyone craved and still they moan
Like I said in another thread the defence needs tightening up and we're good to go. You can't please every one though Carl, if we were top of the league they'd still moan

Exactly

Club is rotten to the core. Fans eant us to lose or have a negative result. Fits slade and tan out agenda.

Carl that's the modern fan.

Just glad then Ryan I am an old school football fan.

That was a get out of jail but anyone who was there will surely agree that for the majority of the game we looked excellent.

The " Slade Out " and " Sacked in the morning " chants were premature to say the least and personally I didn't agree with those chants either, I was as frustrated and angered by surrendering a two goal lead yet again but we didn't concede a lead and fall behind and I still believe, like I did on Saturday, that the players must be held responsible for part of the problem.

Let's face it tonight, and on Saturday, we could have been three or even four goals up before the oppositions scored, that is the way we set up to play but players didn't take the chances when they came.

But what worries me the most is when players stop doing the basics, not closing down and losing the 50/50's when the very time we need to be brave, where are the leaders on the pitch to stand up and spur the others on.

Players like Morrison and Gunnarsson should be leading the team when the backs are to the wall.

Slade is not blameless by any stretch but to put all the blame at his door is, in my opinion, unjustified.

Don't forget how many have celebrated and championed Paul Trollope for the upturn in performances since his arrival, but I dint see his name attributed to our collapses when commanding good leads.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that Slade is unaccountable but fans should at least be consistent in their views. It seems to me that Slade is the easy target when or if it goes wrong but does not get any credit for the good that we do, that is quite sad.

I thought the substitution of Tony Watt, at 2-0, was the correct decision. We have a game in 3 days, a striker still striving towards full fitness and worked tirelessly this evening and was in my opinion man of the match, but he had done his job and I am assuming the decision was made to at least try and have him fully ready for Birmingham on Friday evening.

Not so long ago, fans including myself were calling for City to be more attacking, to score from open play, provide entertainment, how people expect us to achieve greatness in just a few games beggars belief.

With the squad we have I believe we should be challenging for the play offs at the very least, but in Russell Slade I never had the confidence we had the manager to deliver, so to be fair he has us challenging for the play off positions and that has exceeded my expectations under Slade so far, so try and at least get behind the team and support them and not turn on a manager during the game when there is so much at stake.

I wish I could have focuses on all the positives about us tonight, and I really wish the victory had been far more comfortable, but despite everything that happened on the pitch this evening, I feel more frustrated at the chants from the stands.

In the first half the Canton Stand called for Slade to do the ayatollah, in the second half 'Slade Out' chants and boos rang around the ground, then just five minutes later and the booing stopped, and the supporters cheered the team on the final whistle.

You couldn't make this stuff up !

Carl, at last a decent post just kidding, spot on with that. Enjoyed the last 3 home games, end to end would have taken watt off but not brought Mason on. All smiles at the end

I could not believe the amount of booing when Brentford equalised.

I don't see the benefit in booing at any time but if you want to vent your feelings at least wait until the game is over. It is to the player's credit that they managed to pick themselves up after what must have been a massive blow to them and then show the character to find a winner right at the death.

Booing them was certainly not a good way of encouraging them to find that winning goal!

And how idiotic did those booing appear when then cheering the winning goal?

Excellent post Carl - that's a very fair assessment of where things are at moment with team

Cheers Carl, couldn't make it tonight unfortunately so good to know how our fans reacted - if dissapointed.

Never ever boo Cardiff City, how is that going to help? I've booed managers and owners, but never the team.

You're spot on with your opinion on it

I really don't miss that side of things when watching the city, I have always said we have a fair proportion of delusional fans.

I say it many times, we lost 4 in 21 this season in the league, a lot of draws but still very difficult to beat.

Slade will always be the first one to blame when we lose mainly because supporters didn't want him in charge to start and have this agenda against him.

The basics bit I agree a lot on Carl, let's go to the equaliser Saturday.. no-one followed the run.. surely you don't have to remind a professional football mainly a defender to track the runs when defending which no-one did, it should be ABC stuff for a defender.

The equaliser today you could say Marshall could have done better and not parried it straight into the middle of the box where is the place you don't usually parry it out to.

Question for Russell slade as a football manager what are you supposed to do in order to protect a 2 goal lead ?

If you know the answer Russell , why didn't you apply your tactics against the last 2 home games or even tonight when we were 2 0 up.

My answer is that russell doesn't have a clue, otherwise he would have tried to do something, and for that reason he needs to go RIGHT NOW , f**k OFF AND TAKE SCOTT YOUNG WITH YOU

Awful booing around us tonight after the equaliser, not my kind of supporting but each to their own I suppose.
I cant blame slade for that, I could see with my own eyes how the players reacted after the first goal by Brentford, they were shitting themselves with the reaction of the crowd. We need a leader on the pitch, someone to keep a calm head and sort the teams heads out, that isn't slades doing.
with that as well the crowd were awful at times tonight! Dropped the team like a stone when things started going south. With no money, we're gonna need to do something to convince Watt to sign for us. Who'd want tto come here with such a fickle support?

Carl, I sit about three rows in front of you, and was chuffed to see you celebrating that win as it should be at the end. While those around you were chanting slade out and booing their team, you I feel like myself, saw it as a rollercoaster game with three points to us In the end.

We need a leader on the pitch, someone to keep a calm head and sort the teams heads out, that isn't slades doing.
with that as well the crowd were awful at times tonight!

We need a leader in the dug out to..... Slade is way way way out of his depth at this level as is Scott young

We need a leader on the pitch, someone to keep a calm head and sort the teams heads out, that isn't slades doing.
with that as well the crowd were awful at times tonight!

We need a leader in the dug out to..... Slade is way way way out of his depth at this level as is Scott young

Out of his depth sitting 7th in the championship? I think you'll find there are 17 other championship managers that wish they were as out of their depth as Russell Slade.

He ain't the best manager in the world. He's not the most fashionable or a master tactician. But he's doing the job that is asked of him and that is what really matters.

Carl, just wanted to say that I thought that your post was spot on, very well put together.
Merry Christmas everyone, lets all hope we are all still here kick'en next year. Cheers!

We need a leader on the pitch, someone to keep a calm head and sort the teams heads out, that isn't slades doing.
with that as well the crowd were awful at times tonight!

We need a leader in the dug out to..... Slade is way way way out of his depth at this level as is Scott young

Out of his depth sitting 7th in the championship? I think you'll find there are 17 other championship managers that wish they were as out of their depth as Russell Slade.

He ain't the best manager in the world. He's not the most fashionable or a master tactician. But he's doing the job that is asked of him and that is what really matters.

An excellent post from Carl

But regarding the above comments I would simply remind people that Slade is working with an excellent squad of players most of whom he did not bring into the club and in each of the last three home games (and others before) Cardiff have thrown away a two-goal lead ONLY AFTER SLADE HAS HAD HIS TACTICAL INPUT, i.e. substitutions!

Firstly, Watt looked tired but Mason (sadly) is not the player we thought he was going to be and is very pedestrian in his approach and gave away a crucial ball which allowed Brentford to stream upfield

Thankfully, he left Kenwyne on this time!

Secondly, I could see the Malone substitution (assuming he was going to ask Fabio to move into midfield) BEFORE THE GOAL, but once they scored why did he not change the plan?

Thankfully, Kenwyne (via Fabio) came to the rescue and the blushes were spared!

Players or manager at fault? Well, I have to say both...but decisions from the dugout are consistently poor!

Personally I think Slade's doing a decent job. I can understand why people are booing though, the players seem to think they can score two goals and then go to sleep for an hour.

Well I cannot recall any team that has squandered 3 2-0 leads in such a short period. Any set of fans would boo.

To me there seems to be a lack of ability to close a game down with such a lead. I tend to believe this is a management problem more than a player issue.

There appears to be quite a lot assumption that the boos were directed at the players and how fickle these fans are that booed.

I booed, and all those around me including myself were boing slade, NOT the players so maybe ask the question before waving the finger of disappointment and casting your words of wisdom. Slade is doing the best he can but for me it's simply not good enough for my club and where I want us to be. Nobody can ignore the chap is tactically out of his depth. He was a lucky man last night. Had Kenwyne not scored, those spouting words of wisdom casting opinion in your ivory towers on the "booers" more than likely would have been venting frustration too.

joke of a post Carl. surely you can see the boos was aimed at Slade for yet again sitting back on a 2 goal lead. the late goal has possibly saved his skin but the problems are there for all to see. we need to get Manga in asap and get a leader out there instead of Gunnerson. Someone vocal like Nolan would be ideal.
could even recal Adeyemi who i think may do the job

Booed for not shutting up shop, booed for sitting back, booed for subs, booed for losing goals.

Being a City fan is great these days

2 defeats in 13 games, sitting just outside the playoffs.
10 goals scored in 4 games on the back of criticism for not scoring enough goals.
Give them all a break for fucks sake. The manager and players are all responsible for what's going on, not one or the other.

Club is rotten to the core. Fans eant us to lose or have a negative result. Fits slade and tan out agenda.

I disagree - if the club is rotten to the core than that also means that the fans are too! The football is a lot more exciting now over the last few games and we are picking up quite a few points. We are back in blue which has nearly been a year now and the red is something of the past. Don't forget to celebrate BLUE FRIDAY 09th January!

As to whether we will finish in a play off position, I'm not sure but it's our aim this season and if achieved whatever the outcome after - it would have been a very successful season!

I just think there is apathy right throughout the Club, from the top all the way to the bottom!

You have an owner that does not come anymore, his minions who don't appear to know what to do, spouting a 3 to 5 year plan?
So what exactly a plan is it?

Staff (stewards) who due to conditions they work under as as friendly as Grinch!

There are other staff who for one reason or another have their own agenda.

When you sit back and look at the people that have left the Club over the past 3 yrs or more, good people you have to ask yourself did they see something coming or is it that bad to be down there.

Lastly to the Thousands who have voted with their feet. Yes as I have heard spouted again and again on this site "glory hunters" it's been used far to much. Amongst those thousands are hundreds and hundreds of passionate and loyal City fans who have been touched by that apathy, that they no longer go

What's the answer I don't really know but it's only going to get worse.

Leadership starts from the top as far as I am concerned

In my opinion Carl when it comes to RS we don't need to make anything up as most everything that happens during games is entirely foreseeable. In a few weeks time we will face a struggling League 1 team, Shrewsbury, in the FA Cup and out tactics will be exactly the same. That's it with RS it doesn't matter who we play, home or away, the tactics remain the same and any substitutions involve only like for like within the one dimensional set up he uses.

I know we all see things in different ways but I'm yet to see any of our players "Pressing" the opposition when they have the ball, one thing happens when we lose possession and that is we fall back into 2 lines of four and we allow our opponents, whoever they are, to try and pass through our defensive lines. God forbid we should actually score first because the problem of sitting back trying to protect what we have only gets worse, like last night, and I don't think it has anything to do with our players "doing the basics" because for me they are just doing what they are told.

Watt has made a massive difference to our attack and, in my opinion, having him only papers over the cracks which have highlighted RS lack of tactical experience at this level. He has a gifted and talented squad at his disposal but he simply doesn't know how to use it.

Whittingham is the perfect example who, in my opinion, is our most gifted player but one who has now lost his place Why? because talented players have no place in any team managed by the fuckwit Slade. It is only a matter of time before Ralls and Gunnarsonn start getting the same treatment Whittingham has had from a section of our fans, and like Whitts they won't deserve it.

It will start with suggestions that they are not "Doing the basics" but the reality under RS the "Basics" are sitting back, not pressing the opposition and inviting them to try and pick a pass through our 2 defensive lines. In that respect last night our players did exactly what the manager asked them to do.

We were lucky last night against a Brentford side who, in my opinion, were the weakest team to visit the CCS this season and the reason is the negative almost passive style of football adopted by our management.

Carl that's the modern fan.

There are plenty of theories and opinions in this thread (all very good btw) however it all boils down to the fact that modern or any kind of football fan is a classic case of bipolar.

Over the moon when things go right ragingly depressed when things go wrong.

I know I won't change and I suspect many other will not either

Clubs fucked. Riddled with negativity.

Slade will never win the fans over, no matter what he does. We need a manager to come in for next season and take this club by the reigns similar to how malky did and get the fans onside again.