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" 8 goals conceded in 4 games "

Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:36 am

A 2 goal lead thrown away twice, and lead lost twice against Bolton where fortunately we went on to win in spite of them missing some sitters.

Therefore if Manga is not brought back in on Tuesday I have to question whether or not we are trying to unsettle him and he's the next big earner we want off the books.

It does not make sense to keep your best defender on the bench when we are conceding so many goals.

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:49 am

polo wrote:A 2 goal lead thrown away twice, and lead lost twice against Bolton where fortunately we went on to win in spite of them missing some sitters.

Therefore if Manga is not brought back in on Tuesday I have to question whether or not we are trying to unsettle him and he's the next big earner we want off the books.

It does not make sense to keep your best defender on the bench when we are conceding so many goals.


I was going to post something along these lines. Very worrying if he is not selected for next match. We have seen similar patterns of players being frozen out of selection due to there contract and not ability :ayatollah:

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:53 am

It's crazy, Our 2 best defenders are not playing. Manga is rotting on the bench while Turner has been shoved out on loan "to gain fitness". Surely there are enough development games to get him fit here?

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:55 am

polo wrote:A 2 goal lead thrown away twice, and lead lost twice against Bolton where fortunately we went on to win in spite of them missing some sitters.

Therefore if Manga is not brought back in on Tuesday I have to question whether or not we are trying to unsettle him and he's the next big earner we want off the books.

It does not make sense to keep your best defender on the bench when we are conceding so many goals.



It's a strange one polo, when we couldn't buy a goal last month our saving grace was the defence, i think we only conceaded two in six games?? now we have started scoring we are also leaking goals with the same defence, i'm with you about manga, it has to be the right time to bring him back into the starting elleven. :thumbup:

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:59 pm

polo wrote:A 2 goal lead thrown away twice, and lead lost twice against Bolton where fortunately we went on to win in spite of them missing some sitters.

Therefore if Manga is not brought back in on Tuesday I have to question whether or not we are trying to unsettle him and he's the next big earner we want off the books.

It does not make sense to keep your best defender on the bench when we are conceding so many goals.


I agree. Piss take.
Its like man city keeping a fit vincent kompany on the bench game after game, it wouldnt happen.

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:02 pm

I would take the gamble and bring Manga back.

My worry is if we tighten the defence we will lose out up front. With Manga though he can add to the attack and well as shore up the defence.

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:09 pm

After yesterday the two players I would drop for Wednesday would be Connolly and Malone for manga and Fabio. I used to think Morrison was poor last year but I think he has improved a lot this year and played well yesterday where as Connolly seemed out of sorts, letting ball bounce and reckless in possession. He has played really well most of he season but his form has dropped recently and was out muscled last week for Bolton goal. Malone also was suspect and didn't offer as much going forward as usual. I rate both Connolly and Malone as decent players but Morrison is probably behind Joe Ralls as Citys most improved player and seems to be up for the battle and a leader. Just prefer Fabio to Malone due to his 100% commitment and drive going forward.

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:14 pm

Manga is the best defender in the Championship and yet not the first name down on our team sheet despite conceding a bag full of goals - tells you all you need to know about Russell Slade.

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:22 pm

It's the midfield pairing which is making this happen but it's made us a more pleasing team to watch on the eye these last 3 games just hope Slade learns on how to close games out or we are going to have to score 3 or more goals on a regular basis.

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:30 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:It's the midfield pairing which is making this happen but it's made us a more pleasing team to watch on the eye these last 3 games just hope Slade learns on how to close games out or we are going to have to score 3 or more goals on a regular basis.

Hmmm. Id say Tony Watts pace is just as big a reason for out more attacking play personally as weve not had anyone stretching the opposition defence since Frazier Campbell.

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:35 pm

Something clearly needs to change. Bring back Manga. :thumbright:

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:53 pm

polo wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:It's the midfield pairing which is making this happen but it's made us a more pleasing team to watch on the eye these last 3 games just hope Slade learns on how to close games out or we are going to have to score 3 or more goals on a regular basis.

Hmmm. Id say Tony Watts pace is just as big a reason for out more attacking play personally as weve not had anyone stretching the opposition defence since Frazier Campbell.


We are much more forward thinking with Ralls and Gunnar rather than backward sideways passing Whitts and Diki.

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:57 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
polo wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:It's the midfield pairing which is making this happen but it's made us a more pleasing team to watch on the eye these last 3 games just hope Slade learns on how to close games out or we are going to have to score 3 or more goals on a regular basis.

Hmmm. Id say Tony Watts pace is just as big a reason for out more attacking play personally as weve not had anyone stretching the opposition defence since Frazier Campbell.


We are much more forward thinking with Ralls and Gunnar rather than backward sideways passing Whitts and Diki.


It's no coincidence that since we changed Midfield we've leaked more goals, this is what was wanted by fans more attacking unfortunately that will also cost us to concede more

However I agree with polo based on the performance of connoly yesterday I would drop him and bring manga back in

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:58 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
polo wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:It's the midfield pairing which is making this happen but it's made us a more pleasing team to watch on the eye these last 3 games just hope Slade learns on how to close games out or we are going to have to score 3 or more goals on a regular basis.

Hmmm. Id say Tony Watts pace is just as big a reason for out more attacking play personally as weve not had anyone stretching the opposition defence since Frazier Campbell.


We are much more forward thinking with Ralls and Gunnar rather than backward sideways passing Whitts and Diki.


Yes because when you have pace in the team it is easier to pass the ball forward into the space. Mason and Jones dont give you that option, and when Whitts and Digi were in the centre Ralls was being used on the left and he doesnt give you that option either so thats why the ball had to go into feet rather than into the space.

When Whitts was playing with Bellamy, Chopra, Mcormack, Burke.etc who will make the runs for him thats when he was at his passing best.

You cant just pass the ball forward for the sake of it if theres no movement which as a team weve clearly lacked under Slade so the next best thing is to keep the ball rather than give it away.

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:04 pm

polo wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
polo wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:It's the midfield pairing which is making this happen but it's made us a more pleasing team to watch on the eye these last 3 games just hope Slade learns on how to close games out or we are going to have to score 3 or more goals on a regular basis.

Hmmm. Id say Tony Watts pace is just as big a reason for out more attacking play personally as weve not had anyone stretching the opposition defence since Frazier Campbell.


We are much more forward thinking with Ralls and Gunnar rather than backward sideways passing Whitts and Diki.


Yes because when you have pace in the team it is easier to pass the ball forward into the space. Mason and Jones dont give you that option, and when Whitts and Digi were in the centre Ralls was being used on the left and he doesnt give you that option either so thats why the ball had to go into feet rather than into the space.

When Whitts was playing with Bellamy, Chopra, Mcormack, Burke.etc who will make the runs for him thats when he was at his passing best.

You cant just pass the ball forward for the sake of it if theres no movement which as a team weve clearly lacked under Slade so the next best thing is to keep the ball rather than give it away.


Agree and you are right Watts pace and movement is playing a big part in it he is our main priority in the January window. :thumbright:

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:09 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
polo wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:It's the midfield pairing which is making this happen but it's made us a more pleasing team to watch on the eye these last 3 games just hope Slade learns on how to close games out or we are going to have to score 3 or more goals on a regular basis.

Hmmm. Id say Tony Watts pace is just as big a reason for out more attacking play personally as weve not had anyone stretching the opposition defence since Frazier Campbell.


We are much more forward thinking with Ralls and Gunnar rather than backward sideways passing Whitts and Diki.


It's no coincidence that since we changed Midfield we've leaked more goals, this is what was wanted by fans more attacking unfortunately that will also cost us to concede more

However I agree with polo based on the performance of connoly yesterday I would drop him and bring manga back in


Yes considering Whitts cant tackle and is a defensive liability according to some we havent stopped leaking goals since hes out of the team. :lol:

Id like to see us go Whitts behind Ralls and Gunnarson in the middle with Watt and Noone or Pilkington off Jones and maybe then we could find the balance between attack and defence but thats not going to happen under Slade.

Id still rather the waqy we currently play to the way we played previously at least we are showing some attacking intent.

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:15 pm

smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
polo wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:It's the midfield pairing which is making this happen but it's made us a more pleasing team to watch on the eye these last 3 games just hope Slade learns on how to close games out or we are going to have to score 3 or more goals on a regular basis.

Hmmm. Id say Tony Watts pace is just as big a reason for out more attacking play personally as weve not had anyone stretching the opposition defence since Frazier Campbell.


We are much more forward thinking with Ralls and Gunnar rather than backward sideways passing Whitts and Diki.


It's no coincidence that since we changed Midfield we've leaked more goals, this is what was wanted by fans more attacking unfortunately that will also cost us to concede more

However I agree with polo based on the performance of connoly yesterday I would drop him and bring manga back in



Ralls with Diki, and Manga and either, and we should have the right balance IMO, although it's nice we have a bit of choice again and competition for places.

Agree wit above aswell, Watts direct running is making a massive difference and making the games better to watch......

Re: " 8 goals conceded in 4 games "

Sun Dec 13, 2015 3:47 pm

If the right offer comes in I think Manga will go.

Re: 8 goals conceded in 4 games

Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:20 pm

polo wrote:
smakerzthebluebird wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:
polo wrote:
Rydogsccfc wrote:It's the midfield pairing which is making this happen but it's made us a more pleasing team to watch on the eye these last 3 games just hope Slade learns on how to close games out or we are going to have to score 3 or more goals on a regular basis.

Hmmm. Id say Tony Watts pace is just as big a reason for out more attacking play personally as weve not had anyone stretching the opposition defence since Frazier Campbell.


We are much more forward thinking with Ralls and Gunnar rather than backward sideways passing Whitts and Diki.


It's no coincidence that since we changed Midfield we've leaked more goals, this is what was wanted by fans more attacking unfortunately that will also cost us to concede more

However I agree with polo based on the performance of connoly yesterday I would drop him and bring manga back in


Yes considering Whitts cant tackle and is a defensive liability according to some we havent stopped leaking goals since hes out of the team. :lol:

Id like to see us go Whitts behind Ralls and Gunnarson in the middle with Watt and Noone or Pilkington off Jones and maybe then we could find the balance between attack and defence but thats not going to happen under Slade.

Id still rather the waqy we currently play to the way we played previously at least we are showing some attacking intent.


I agree whitts better in a 3 man midfield than two man

Be interesting to see if he makes changes

Re: " 8 goals conceded in 4 games "

Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:26 pm

SILKY wrote:If the right offer comes in I think Manga will go.


And if he does go I for one would not blame him when we have a dick of a manager who thinks that Sean Morrison and Matt Connolly are both deserving of being in the team ahead of him.

:sladeout:

Re: " 8 goals conceded in 4 games "

Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:39 pm

Time to bring Manga in if. It will take slade another 3/4 games to realise this however

Re: " 8 goals conceded in 4 games "

Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:04 pm

Agree 100%. Either Manga start Tuesday, or he is gone.