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' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:23 pm

David marshall has saved us so many times with stunning saves game after game

but once again he is beaten from another shot from outside of the box

is this a coincidence or is it a big problem in his game

for me he does concede too many goals from long shots

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:27 pm

Maybe its the defense in front of him?

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:29 pm

The player had so much time then cut back. I sit behind the goal in the family and my initial though was it was "savable", but the time was frightening

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:31 pm

Im talking about long shots from outside the box

ive not got the stats but would guess we concede a lot of them

is it a weakness in marshalls game ?

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:32 pm

Shouldn't have had that much time but I think he was at fault. Like to see it again.

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:39 pm

Marshall has great reactions from goal bound efforts from inside the box and short range efforts but does get beat from too many long range speculative efforts

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:04 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:David marshall has saved us so many times with stunning saves game after game

but once again he is beaten from another shot from outside of the box

is this a coincidence or is it a big problem in his game

for me he does concede too many goals from long shots


Andy Leggs Reply

andy legg ‏@leggy191 10 minutes ago
@AnnisAbraham I think that Marshall saves you more points than he loses you I can't believe fans even question him #thebestgkoutsidetheprem

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:08 pm

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Gregg Stoneman ‏@gtstoneman 3m3 minutes ago
@leggy191 @AnnisAbraham spot on. If it's shots from outside the box, why are the midfielders/defenders not closing down quicker?

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:17 pm

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@leggy191 @AnnisAbraham definitely, I can't count the amount of times he has saved us over the years. One of city's finest goalkeepers.

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:22 pm

He is annis, it doesn't mean he doesn't make a mistake though. And just seen the goal again and his positioning and concentration is questionable.
Still a huge asset, without a doubt.

Still think he should have been sold after we went down when his value was high.

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:25 pm

2blue2handle wrote:He is annis, it doesn't mean he doesn't make a mistake though. And just seen the goal again and his positioning and concentration is questionable.
Still a huge asset, without a doubt.

Still think he should have been sold after we went down when his value was high.


Luke, he does make mistakes he's only human, but he gets us more points than he loses us :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:26 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:He is annis, it doesn't mean he doesn't make a mistake though. And just seen the goal again and his positioning and concentration is questionable.
Still a huge asset, without a doubt.

Still think he should have been sold after we went down when his value was high.


Luke, he does make mistakes he's only human, but he gets us more points than he loses us :thumbright: :ayatollah:


Without a doubt. Best keeper in the league.
Every keeper makes a mistake.

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:30 pm

Thought it was a fairly good goal myself. He can't save them all.

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:32 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:He is annis, it doesn't mean he doesn't make a mistake though. And just seen the goal again and his positioning and concentration is questionable.
Still a huge asset, without a doubt.

Still think he should have been sold after we went down when his value was high.


Luke, he does make mistakes he's only human, but he gets us more points than he loses us :thumbright: :ayatollah:


Without a doubt. Best keeper in the league.
Every keeper makes a mistake.

But the question is are his mistakes the same time after time ie long range efforts

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 10:44 pm

troobloo3339 wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:He is annis, it doesn't mean he doesn't make a mistake though. And just seen the goal again and his positioning and concentration is questionable.
Still a huge asset, without a doubt.

Still think he should have been sold after we went down when his value was high.


Luke, he does make mistakes he's only human, but he gets us more points than he loses us :thumbright: :ayatollah:


Without a doubt. Best keeper in the league.
Every keeper makes a mistake.

But the question is are his mistakes the same time after time ie long range efforts


He does seem to be caught out from time to time but then even the best keeper of my generation peter schmeicheal struggled with chips.

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Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:07 pm

When an outfield player makes a mistake, its a goal fluffed, a weak pass intercepted, a mistimed tackle or clearance which rarely is punished by a goal. When a GK makes a mistake, a goal is nearly always the punishment. It's harsh. My lad has trained with coaches that have been with Marshall and they would say that Marshall is almost faultless in terms of technicals, attitude and ability which is evident to all. We all have our football views but trying to find a fault in someone who consistently performs for us weekin/week out and is widely recognised as the best GK outside the PL is not the considered critique of the game today or indeed last week. For most of us, the spotlight is shining clearly on tactical errors ultimately undoing games that should have been won. The absolute last thing on most fans minds is Marshall improving his shot-stopping skills.

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:11 pm

GrangeEndStar wrote:When an outfield player makes a mistake, its a goal fluffed, a weak pass intercepted, a mistimed tackle or clearance which rarely is punished by a goal. When a GK makes a mistake, a goal is nearly always the punishment. It's harsh. My lad has trained with coaches that have been with Marshall and they would say that Marshall is almost faultless in terms of technicals, attitude and ability which is evident to all. We all have our football views but trying to find a fault in someone who consistently performs for us weekin/week out and is widely recognised as the best GK outside the PL is not the considered critique of the game today or indeed last week. For most of us, the spotlight is shining clearly on tactical errors ultimately undoing games that should have been won. The absolute last thing on most fans minds is Marshall improving his shot-stopping skills.


You are spot on regarding goalkeepers.
Doesnt mean it wasn't a mistake.

No one is trying to boame him but pointing out a goal was his mistake.

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:32 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:When an outfield player makes a mistake, its a goal fluffed, a weak pass intercepted, a mistimed tackle or clearance which rarely is punished by a goal. When a GK makes a mistake, a goal is nearly always the punishment. It's harsh. My lad has trained with coaches that have been with Marshall and they would say that Marshall is almost faultless in terms of technicals, attitude and ability which is evident to all. We all have our football views but trying to find a fault in someone who consistently performs for us weekin/week out and is widely recognised as the best GK outside the PL is not the considered critique of the game today or indeed last week. For most of us, the spotlight is shining clearly on tactical errors ultimately undoing games that should have been won. The absolute last thing on most fans minds is Marshall improving his shot-stopping skills.


You are spot on regarding goalkeepers.
Doesnt mean it wasn't a mistake.

No one is trying to boame him but pointing out a goal was his mistake.


Agreed. But the OP's concern (and he's every right to have an opinion) is that medium/long range shot-stopping is becoming a weakness in Marshall's game. My opinion is simply that it's not and I believe that if there is a root debate to how we improve performance & results overall, I feel it's now tactical and in-game management, as the squad selection and motivation is now on the money. Marshall is the least of our concerns apart from the risk that he ever decides to leave us.

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:33 pm

Best keeper in this league .

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:36 pm

GrangeEndStar wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:When an outfield player makes a mistake, its a goal fluffed, a weak pass intercepted, a mistimed tackle or clearance which rarely is punished by a goal. When a GK makes a mistake, a goal is nearly always the punishment. It's harsh. My lad has trained with coaches that have been with Marshall and they would say that Marshall is almost faultless in terms of technicals, attitude and ability which is evident to all. We all have our football views but trying to find a fault in someone who consistently performs for us weekin/week out and is widely recognised as the best GK outside the PL is not the considered critique of the game today or indeed last week. For most of us, the spotlight is shining clearly on tactical errors ultimately undoing games that should have been won. The absolute last thing on most fans minds is Marshall improving his shot-stopping skills.


You are spot on regarding goalkeepers.
Doesnt mean it wasn't a mistake.

No one is trying to boame him but pointing out a goal was his mistake.


Agreed. But the OP's concern (and he's every right to have an opinion) is that medium/long range shot-stopping is becoming a weakness in Marshall's game. My opinion is simply that it's not and I believe that if there is a root debate to how we improve performance & results overall, I feel it's now tactical and in-game management, as the squad selection and motivation is now on the money. Marshall is the least of our concerns apart from the risk that he ever decides to leave us.


Are you agring with yourself? ;)

Marshall is a top keeper, am asset for sure.

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:50 pm

2blue2handle wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:
2blue2handle wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:When an outfield player makes a mistake, its a goal fluffed, a weak pass intercepted, a mistimed tackle or clearance which rarely is punished by a goal. When a GK makes a mistake, a goal is nearly always the punishment. It's harsh. My lad has trained with coaches that have been with Marshall and they would say that Marshall is almost faultless in terms of technicals, attitude and ability which is evident to all. We all have our football views but trying to find a fault in someone who consistently performs for us weekin/week out and is widely recognised as the best GK outside the PL is not the considered critique of the game today or indeed last week. For most of us, the spotlight is shining clearly on tactical errors ultimately undoing games that should have been won. The absolute last thing on most fans minds is Marshall improving his shot-stopping skills.


You are spot on regarding goalkeepers.
Doesnt mean it wasn't a mistake.

No one is trying to boame him but pointing out a goal was his mistake.


Agreed. But the OP's concern (and he's every right to have an opinion) is that medium/long range shot-stopping is becoming a weakness in Marshall's game. My opinion is simply that it's not and I believe that if there is a root debate to how we improve performance & results overall, I feel it's now tactical and in-game management, as the squad selection and motivation is now on the money. Marshall is the least of our concerns apart from the risk that he ever decides to leave us.


Are you agreeing with yourself? ;)

Marshall is a top keeper, am asset for sure.


:lol: I have to agree with myself. It makes the voices in my head stop. :crazy:

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sat Dec 12, 2015 11:55 pm

I always win those argunents. I love them.

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sun Dec 13, 2015 1:25 am

Not at fault - simply a great shot - give credit to the striker.

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:45 am

My grandson commented during the warm up that Moore saved more shots than Marshall :lol:
But the game slipped away when we didn't take the numerous amount of chances that came our way

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sun Dec 13, 2015 7:07 am

Lets be honest here, the guy should have been shut down long before he had a chance to shoot, I blame the outfield players, not Marshall, the player had all the time in the world to shoot, marshall probably thought that his players would not have let the goalscorer have a shot :thumbup:

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sun Dec 13, 2015 10:17 am

mugsy wrote:Not at fault - simply a great shot - give credit to the striker.


Exactly. Some people not happy unless their moaning over nothing.
The conditions were horrendous for goalkeepers yesterday as well.

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Sun Dec 13, 2015 11:54 am

troobloo3339 wrote:David marshall has saved us so many times with stunning saves game after game

but once again he is beaten from another shot from outside of the box

is this a coincidence or is it a big problem in his game

Slade got his back 4 wrong in my opinion and I'm a slade in supporter I would of put Fabio in and manga instead of peltier and Connolly but that's just my opinion

for me he does concede too many goals from long shots

Re: ' David Marshall again ??? '

Mon Dec 14, 2015 8:29 am

troobloo3339 wrote:David marshall has saved us so many times with stunning saves game after game

but once again he is beaten from another shot from outside of the box

is this a coincidence or is it a big problem in his game

for me he does concede too many goals from long shots


In my opinion slade got it wrong with the defence, Manga should of been put in, don't know whether for Conners or Morrison because both of them have been decent in their own ways but 100% Fabio should of been put back in, Maybe for Peltier.