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worcester_ccfc wrote:Corbyn is spot on once again.
Over a hundred innocent people died on Friday. The police in this country have killed loads of innocent people over the years. If we adopted this then more innocent people would die. Is that what you really want?
Action needs to be taken by a group of nations but this is not the answer.
Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:14 am
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Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:34 am
noisycat wrote:I bet he'd feel differently if he was in the same situation as those in Paris on Friday night. As far as my limited knowledge of terrorists goes,if they get shot in the head,they may not be able to detonate their bombs attached to their bodies.
Tue Nov 17, 2015 2:56 pm
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Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:03 pm
bluebird04 wrote:okay, everyone on here thinks shoot to kill is the right move..........but what if they shoot to disable, surely making them talk is better than having no intel at all ?.
Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:05 pm
shinyBlueGlue wrote:bluebird04 wrote:okay, everyone on here thinks shoot to kill is the right move..........but what if they shoot to disable, surely making them talk is better than having no intel at all ?.
So If one of your family was killed because a terrorist was shooting people but we had a no shoot policy, that could have saved them if we shot the scum coward on sight, you would be ok with this ?
Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:11 pm
bluebird04 wrote:shinyBlueGlue wrote:bluebird04 wrote:okay, everyone on here thinks shoot to kill is the right move..........but what if they shoot to disable, surely making them talk is better than having no intel at all ?.
So If one of your family was killed because a terrorist was shooting people but we had a no shoot policy, that could have saved them if we shot the scum coward on sight, you would be ok with this ?
wait, so in your hypothosis, the police would be standing there watching this person shoot my family doing nothing ?....i highly doubt it, if there is NO option other than shoot to kill, then fair enough HOWEVER, LIKE I STATED, surely its better to shoot to disable, i.e. stopping the person from hurting someone else, and therefore using them to get information on who else could be involved preventing others from dying
(i edited a spelling mistake, sorry if theres a few, rush typed)
Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:15 pm
shinyBlueGlue wrote:bluebird04 wrote:shinyBlueGlue wrote:bluebird04 wrote:okay, everyone on here thinks shoot to kill is the right move..........but what if they shoot to disable, surely making them talk is better than having no intel at all ?.
So If one of your family was killed because a terrorist was shooting people but we had a no shoot policy, that could have saved them if we shot the scum coward on sight, you would be ok with this ?
wait, so in your hypothosis, the police would be standing there watching this person shoot my family doing nothing ?....i highly doubt it, if there is NO option other than shoot to kill, then fair enough HOWEVER, LIKE I STATED, surely its better to shoot to disable, i.e. stopping the person from hurting someone else, and therefore using them to get information on who else could be involved preventing others from dying
(i edited a spelling mistake, sorry if theres a few, rush typed)
So someone goes to a shopping centre and tales off his coat and has a bomb strapped to his body shout alah akbar
What do the police do ? Shoot the c**t in the leg to ask questions ?
No chance, we save the innocent civilians first in my opinion
Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:17 pm
Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:18 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Corbyn is spot on once again.
Over a hundred innocent people died on Friday. The police in this country have killed loads of innocent people over the years. If we adopted this then more innocent people would die. Is that what you really want?
Action needs to be taken by a group of nations but this is not the answer.
Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:21 pm
angelis1949 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Corbyn is spot on once again.
Over a hundred innocent people died on Friday. The police in this country have killed loads of innocent people over the years. If we adopted this then more innocent people would die. Is that what you really want?
Action needs to be taken by a group of nations but this is not the answer.
If Corbyns old girlfriend, Diane Abbott was about to be shot by a terrorist, would he not prefer a policeman to shoot to kill the terrorist to save her
Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:23 pm
shinyBlueGlue wrote:So how do you decide on when and when not to shoot ? Does he have a bomb strapped to him ? Can he get a few coward shots off killing one or two children or mothers in the process
Only of there is absolutely no threat to innocent civilians should the leg options be used
Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:28 pm
bluebird04 wrote:shinyBlueGlue wrote:So how do you decide on when and when not to shoot ? Does he have a bomb strapped to him ? Can he get a few coward shots off killing one or two children or mothers in the process
Only of there is absolutely no threat to innocent civilians should the leg options be used
right well first off pal, i aint trying to argue, i was basically askign surely its better to take someone down to get intell rather than just kill them and then find out later 5 other attacks have happened but in response to your question,
again, i will repeat myself "if there is NO option other than shoot to kill, then fair enough"....... if a man removes a coat, shows bombs, and police have enough time to shoot him dead, no arguements here, take him down...end him fine. i never argued against that
if like you said a terrorist was shooting people, then first off, i doubt he was walking round with a gun on show before he did an attack, so chances are he would open fire on innocent lives anyway before police could respond to it. now then maybe....if the police that day thought there wold be multiple attacks, but no idea where and when, our intell would probably know in advance, and would maybe advise to try and shot to take one down for information.
but AGAIN, if there is NO option other than shoot to kill, then fair enough
Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:32 pm
shinyBlueGlue wrote:bluebird04 wrote:shinyBlueGlue wrote:So how do you decide on when and when not to shoot ? Does he have a bomb strapped to him ? Can he get a few coward shots off killing one or two children or mothers in the process
Only of there is absolutely no threat to innocent civilians should the leg options be used
right well first off pal, i aint trying to argue, i was basically askign surely its better to take someone down to get intell rather than just kill them and then find out later 5 other attacks have happened but in response to your question,
again, i will repeat myself "if there is NO option other than shoot to kill, then fair enough"....... if a man removes a coat, shows bombs, and police have enough time to shoot him dead, no arguements here, take him down...end him fine. i never argued against that
if like you said a terrorist was shooting people, then first off, i doubt he was walking round with a gun on show before he did an attack, so chances are he would open fire on innocent lives anyway before police could respond to it. now then maybe....if the police that day thought there wold be multiple attacks, but no idea where and when, our intell would probably know in advance, and would maybe advise to try and shot to take one down for information.
but AGAIN, if there is NO option other than shoot to kill, then fair enough
You can't talk these cunts down, they are ready to die as soon as they make there way to their target, they are fucked up individuals
Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:33 pm
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Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:56 pm
bluebird04 wrote:shinyBlueGlue wrote:So how do you decide on when and when not to shoot ? Does he have a bomb strapped to him ? Can he get a few coward shots off killing one or two children or mothers in the process
Only of there is absolutely no threat to innocent civilians should the leg options be used
right well first off pal, i aint trying to argue, i was basically askign surely its better to take someone down to get intell rather than just kill them and then find out later 5 other attacks have happened but in response to your question,
again, i will repeat myself "if there is NO option other than shoot to kill, then fair enough"....... if a man removes a coat, shows bombs, and police have enough time to shoot him dead, no arguements here, take him down...end him fine. i never argued against that
if like you said a terrorist was shooting people, then first off, i doubt he was walking round with a gun on show before he did an attack, so chances are he would open fire on innocent lives anyway before police could respond to it. now then maybe....if the police that day thought there wold be multiple attacks, but no idea where and when, our intell would probably know in advance, and would maybe advise to try and shot to take one down for information.
but AGAIN, if there is NO option other than shoot to kill, then fair enough
Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:34 pm
Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:34 pm
bluebird04 wrote:okay, everyone on here thinks shoot to kill is the right move..........but what if they shoot to disable, surely making them talk is better than having no intel at all ?.
Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:56 pm