Mon Nov 16, 2015 12:25 am
Mon Nov 16, 2015 1:27 am
Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:15 am
Theblues2 wrote:If I may add as a Muslim-Cardiff supporter please re evaluate what you think is Islam and f**k off to a political forum, Isis has about 32'000 members compared to 1.6 billion Muslims across the world, which if you know math is a minority, the rest of the 1.6 billion Muslims do not condone what Isis have done, my dad who is Muslim works damn f*cking hard for his family, to have people disrespect him and his faith, and no Islam is not about whoever doesn't believe in Allah, which may I add is only the Arabic word for God, he's not a different God, is a enemy, within the Qu'ran it says "a man who kills another human being shall be judged by Allah as if he has killed the whole of humanity" and also adds "a man who saves another human being shall be judged by allah as if he has saved the whole of mankind" go read it for yourself, also of like to add you may of heard of Russia taking back a very large amount of territory in Syria and also you may not of heard of a Muslim rebel group who are fighting Isis who are combined between both Sunnis and And Shias having also taken back territory within Syria, before you judge a religion within he context you have, pick up a book, read it, meet a man who follows it and follows it correctly and come back and tell me, I'm sure you'll have a very different opinion. Also on the case of refugees, the only opinion on this horrible crisis in Syria is the Syrians opinions, they live this horrible nightmare day in day out, if taking in families of men women and children to save their lives then as a country along with America and most of the NATO countries in which have a common goal in saving innocents and fighting a war against terror then that's what must be done
Mon Nov 16, 2015 3:32 am
neathbluebird wrote:Islam is a religion that says if you do not believe then you are an infadel, & as infadels you should either convert or die-thats what it says in their so called holy book the koran.So if you dont believe then you are fair game for the muslim terrorists to kill you -hence their " jihad" or" holy war against us non believers in the uk & the rest of europe..But it does get a bit more complicated than that-ISIS are SUNNI MUSLIMS who believe SHIA MUSLIMS are inferior & on a par with us infadels and should also die.The shia are basically assad syrian government,iran & hezbollah (from lebanon) & they are fighting tooth & nail against ISIS-and now winning with the help of their russian friends airstrikes.Iran & Syria want to be the local superpowers in the middle east-they hate the saudis-(who are sunni & have been funding isis) & israel & isis but have no ambitions beyond being the regional superpower.ISIS on the other hand want to establish an islamic caliphate (ie a country to you and me)to replicate the old ottaman empire which stretched across half of europe & all of north africa & would be subject to their strict sharia law.In the north of syria & iraq you have the kurds who are now also making inroads against isis-with the help of american airstrikes-however the kurds are bitter enemies of turkey(who are sunni muslims) who regard the kurds as terrorists and are bombing the kurds but are telling the world their airstrikes are predominatly against isis ?in the the east of iraq the shia militias are a more effective fighting force than the corrupt iraqi army and are also making inroads against isis but despite requests the americans have refused to provide airstikes to support them because they are almost entirely funded by iran.
Its all so complicated & i say keep our boys out of it-whatever we do will be wrong.leave them fight it out amongst themselves-
That leads to the problem of the refugees-which is problably our biggest prob at the moment as europeans-my & everyones concern is that there are isis amongst the genuine refugees so in my opininion they should be interned in camps & most appropiate place would be cyprus to set up the camps.Cyprus has the advantage of being a huge island just off the coast of lebanon?turkey/syria ^& could accomadate a vast amount of people.I am not in any way way suggesting concentration style camps!!!! they could be funded by eu/un/us/saudi oil money etc & the peoples could be placed according to their religion?ethnic origin etc -then when its all over in iraq/syria they can be given the choice as where they want to go back to-for example a christian syrian would probably want to go back to syria but only if assad was still in power as he protected the minorites-converserly a sunni iraqi for example could opt for sunni saudi arabia fellow sunnis are highly regarded.This solution may be regarded as expensive by some in the short term but in the long term it will protect our european culture.
As far as the muslims who are already here-then i can see no ideal solution-but welcome anyone who can suggest a realistic solution!
I am ready to be slagged off as a nazi racist putting people into camps-but this is is war against an ideology from the middle ages which has no place in modern european society.
Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:28 am
Sven wrote:Theblues2 wrote:If I may add as a Muslim-Cardiff supporter please re evaluate what you think is Islam and f**k off to a political forum, Isis has about 32'000 members compared to 1.6 billion Muslims across the world, which if you know math is a minority, the rest of the 1.6 billion Muslims do not condone what Isis have done, my dad who is Muslim works damn f*cking hard for his family, to have people disrespect him and his faith, and no Islam is not about whoever doesn't believe in Allah, which may I add is only the Arabic word for God, he's not a different God, is a enemy, within the Qu'ran it says "a man who kills another human being shall be judged by Allah as if he has killed the whole of humanity" and also adds "a man who saves another human being shall be judged by allah as if he has saved the whole of mankind" go read it for yourself, also of like to add you may of heard of Russia taking back a very large amount of territory in Syria and also you may not of heard of a Muslim rebel group who are fighting Isis who are combined between both Sunnis and And Shias having also taken back territory within Syria, before you judge a religion within he context you have, pick up a book, read it, meet a man who follows it and follows it correctly and come back and tell me, I'm sure you'll have a very different opinion. Also on the case of refugees, the only opinion on this horrible crisis in Syria is the Syrians opinions, they live this horrible nightmare day in day out, if taking in families of men women and children to save their lives then as a country along with America and most of the NATO countries in which have a common goal in saving innocents and fighting a war against terror then that's what must be done
Well said. I have some very good friends who (as well as being Muslim) are simply good people!![]()
And well done on managing to read what is a very poorly constructed OP (never heard of paragraphs!)