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" Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch? "

Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:48 am

Was thinking about the Whitts "problem" this morning and come to the conclusion that unless he has a speed/movement weapons theres little point in playing him in the middle over Ralls whose power and mobility suits Slade 442 better than Whitts possession based game.

Malky used Whitts as the free player in a 5 man midfield, later that season Malky used Mutch in that free position but further up the field.

Mutch is now a premier league player, but i think Ralls at his position is far more effective.

Do any of you agree ?


Needs to be on a massive contract.....

Re: Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch ?

Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:54 am

No. Not yet anyway

Re: Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch ?

Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:06 am

llan bluebird wrote:Was thinking about the Whitts "problem" this morning and come to the conclusion that unless he has a speed/movement weapons theres little point in playing him in the middle over Ralls whose power and mobility suits Slade 442 better than Whitts possession based game.

Malky used Whitts as the free player in a 5 man midfield, later that season Malky used Mutch in that free position but further up the field.

Mutch is now a premier league player, but i think Ralls at his position is far more effective.

Do any of you agree ?


Needs to be on a massive contract.....


Mutch has had a hard time getting anywhere near the Premiership standard as an attacking midfielder. I think you could be right in suggesting in a few years time, Ralls could keep his place in a Premiership team playing centre mid

Re: Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch ?

Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:16 am

Imagine if we had a midfield of Ralls, Mutch and a defensive enforcer. My word

Re: Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch ?

Sun Nov 15, 2015 11:54 am

At the moment no, but I can see Ralls only getting better :ayatollah:

Re: " Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch? "

Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:44 pm

Both very talented players, very similar :ayatollah:

Re: " Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch? "

Sun Nov 15, 2015 12:46 pm

Santa Ponsa Blue wrote:Both very talented players, very similar :ayatollah:


I agree there Mason, both quality Championship players :ayatollah:

Re: " Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch? "

Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:13 pm

Mutch was one of our better performers in the premier league. And s scored vital goals. He has obviously stagnated at present, but to judge on what we see ralls has a way to go yet

Re: " Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch? "

Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:25 pm

I think the only thing Mutch is better at is running with the ball and of course because of the position we played him his goals. Ralls in a traditional 442 but will get to double figures.

I love Whitts because i want to watch footballers not limited footballer but good athletes, but I think Ralls is the full package a footballer and athlete.

Ralls is a 442 CM, there will always be a demand for those.

Whitts as a right sided attacking midfielder as Jones played him max'd his ability
Mutch as a deep second striker/Attacking midfilder max'd his abilities

For those two they had to fit into the perfect system that didn't rely on them to do much of the heavy yards, Ralls gives you the heavy yards as well end product.

I believe we must get Ralls on a long term contract, it will be money in the bank for Tan. To be able to control a game at 21 shows immense potential far beyond the championship.

Not sure Mutch stays in the premier league......

Re: " Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch? "

Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:02 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I think the only thing Mutch is better at is running with the ball and of course because of the position we played him his goals. Ralls in a traditional 442 but will get to double figures.

I love Whitts because i want to watch footballers not limited footballer but good athletes, but I think Ralls is the full package a footballer and athlete.

Ralls is a 442 CM, there will always be a demand for those.

Whitts as a right sided attacking midfielder as Jones played him max'd his ability
Mutch as a deep second striker/Attacking midfilder max'd his abilities

For those two they had to fit into the perfect system that didn't rely on them to do much of the heavy yards, Ralls gives you the heavy yards as well end product.

I believe we must get Ralls on a long term contract, it will be money in the bank for Tan. To be able to control a game at 21 shows immense potential far beyond the championship.

Not sure Mutch stays in the premier league......


Great post

Re: " Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch? "

Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:42 pm

Not just yet but I can see Ralls going one better than Mutch over time. :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: " Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch? "

Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:57 pm

Different players but for me yes due to one thing. Mutch wasn't fit enough and went missing for periods in matches. I like him though direct :thumbup:

Re: Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch ?

Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:08 pm

paulh_85 wrote:No. Not yet anyway


Agreed. Ralls has great potential but still has to fulfil it.

Mutch was immense during our promoton season (when he was on the pitch at least!) :D

Re: " Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch? "

Sun Nov 15, 2015 4:37 pm

Two very different footballers to compare; both equally exciting. Mutch and Medel were easily our best midfielders during our Premiership season and I for one would love Mutch back with us. A CM pairing with Ralls could be wonderful. With Gunnar, Digkacoi and a good winger, Kennedy maybe, we could have one of the best midfield set ups in the Championship.

Re: " Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch? "

Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:25 am

Mutch was more influencial on the game when on form, but I believe ralls could surpass what mutch done.

Re: " Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch? "

Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:56 am

llan bluebird wrote:Malky used Whitts as the free player in a 5 man midfield, later that season Malky used Mutch in that free position but further up the field.


No he didn't - Malky always played him in front of the back 4 sat deep.

Re: " Is Joe Ralls better than Jordon Mutch? "

Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:23 am

T1JMO wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Malky used Whitts as the free player in a 5 man midfield, later that season Malky used Mutch in that free position but further up the field.


No he didn't - Malky always played him in front of the back 4 sat deep.


Correct