' ONE WIN IN FIVE YEARS '

Wales have managed to win just once in five years when Gareth Bale hasn't played.

Our national team have played eleven games in the last five years without Bale and the one win came against Macedonia in 2013.

Are we really that reliant on Bale ?

We will get hammered on Friday

in fairness its only past couple years things have looked more promising and dont think we are soley reliant on him but of course hes the main man!!

We will get hammered on Friday

Ramsey and Robson kanu both out to think we will lose Fri aswell but I don't think by much think we will lose 0-2

Wales have managed to win just once in five years when Gareth Bale hasn't played.

Our national team have played eleven games in the last five years without Bale and the one win came against Macedonia in 2013.

Are we really that reliant on Bale ?

Er, yes

We will get hammered on Friday

Depends how up for it the Dutch are. Got a feeling they will be. Doubt it will be 7-1 again, though!

Yes we are reliant on Bale i said that before he is our main source for goals.

We will get hammered on Friday

Depends how up for it the Dutch are. Got a feeling they will be. Doubt it will be 7-1 again, though!

I just can't see who's going to score the goals plus vokes has just pulled out today too

Of course we are reliant on him. Every club and country has that player, some have two or if they're lucky they have 3 but they all exist!

He's one of the top 5 players in the world, not many countries wouldn't be reliant on someone that good.

We will get hammered on Friday

What the f**k makes people think this?! The Dutch are a pile of absolute shite at the moment. Obviously, not everyone has realised!

He's one of the top 5 players in the world, not many countries wouldn't be reliant on someone that good.

Exactly. As if only Wales are reliant on a world-class player! People have evidently forgotten about the likes of Portugal, Argentina and Sweden.

We will get hammered on Friday

Depends how up for it the Dutch are. Got a feeling they will be. Doubt it will be 7-1 again, though!

I just can't see who's going to score the goals plus vokes has just pulled out today too

Depends who plays in the forward positions. Tom Lawrence looked lively against Andorra, and has been playing well for Blackburn, so hopefully he'll get a start (which would be his first for Wales). Many supporters are itching to see Bradshaw make his debut, given that he's been on fire for Walsall so far this season. Don't think he'll start (though you never know), but hopefully he'll get some minutes, at least.

By the way, Vokes' replacement is George Williams. Remember who he made his debut against? The Netherlands. He very nearly scored as well, anyone remember his run?

Of course we depend on Bale but over the last 5 years we haven't exactly had the best defence in the world.... 8 clean sheets out of the last 10 games has shown we are not as reliant on Bale as we used to be for a result... Admittedly we need to score to get a win but we are more likely to knick a goal now than concede so maybe our win ratio without him should start going up.

Wales have managed to win just once in five years when Gareth Bale hasn't played.

Our national team have played eleven games in the last five years without Bale and the one win came against Macedonia in 2013.

Are we really that reliant on Bale ?

Yes and I can't see this changing on Friday,

Wales have managed to win just once in five years when Gareth Bale hasn't played.

Our national team have played eleven games in the last five years without Bale and the one win came against Macedonia in 2013.

Are we really that reliant on Bale ?

And the last time these 2 were out - Holland 2 : 0 Wales .

We will get hammered on Friday

Have you seen their form?

Apparently 3 wins in last 6yrs!