Nuclear Weapons

Most people in the world would probably want a nuclear free world. However, the world is not a Disney film.
Your thoughts on Corbyn and our nuclear deterrent

We don't need nuclear weapons. We wouldn't use them anyway so why have it. Hardly any countries have nuclear weapons and those that don't get by just fine.

Nuclear weapons did not save Lee Rigby or stop the attacks in London ten years ago.

The problem is a clear definition of deterrent is required in this case.Might make the Russians and the Chineese think about it for 10 secs before obliterating us but not the terrorists.For that reason I'll abstain.

This issue was dominant in the 80s and we needed it against the communist block because without it they would have rolled us over.

Communism is dead so where is the threat today? Only danger I see is ISIL which is not a force that's going to roll us over like the threat from communism. So my answer is no.

The problem is a clear definition of deterrent is required in this case.Might make the Russians and the Chineese think about it for 10 secs before obliterating us but not the terrorists.For that reason I'll abstain.

Why would China and Russia choose to obliterate us?

I like to think that if faced with a nuclear attack one of our many allies with nuclear weapons will come to our aid and bomb them back, I highly doubt it ever come to that anyway.

The problem is a clear definition of deterrent is required in this case.Might make the Russians and the Chineese think about it for 10 secs before obliterating us but not the terrorists.For that reason I'll abstain.

Why would China and Russia choose to obliterate us?

I like to think that if faced with a nuclear attack one of our many allies with nuclear weapons will come to our aid and bomb them back, I highly doubt it ever come to that anyway.

So are you saying it is ok for other countries to have nuclear weapons to come to our aid, but not have them ourself as a deterrence

Don't you think that nuclear weapons have probably stopped a 3rd and maybe a 4th world war ?

Also, if say the West did not have nuclear weapons and say Russia, Pakistan, North Korea, China, India decided to take over the middle east for its oil.. what could the West do without nuclear weapons ? We would be toothless and defenceless

No I am not saying that. What I am saying is what is the point in spunking a ridiculous amount of money up the wall on something we don't need. We have allies for a reason. Quite frankly when you look at the list of countries with nukes it's embarrassing that we are apart of that list.

Your'e second point about all those countries having nuclear weapons and not the west is ridiculous. We have invaded the middle east for oil many times, if they chose to do so who the hell are we to stop them after our previous behaviour. The Americans will never get rid of their nukes anyway.

We all need abit of insurance .

No I am not saying that. What I am saying is what is the point in spunking a ridiculous amount of money up the wall on something we don't need. We have allies for a reason. Quite frankly when you look at the list of countries with nukes it's embarrassing that we are apart of that list.

Your'e second point about all those countries having nuclear weapons and not the west is ridiculous. We have invaded the middle east for oil many times, if they chose to do so who the hell are we to stop them after our previous behaviour. The Americans will never get rid of their nukes anyway.

Who could say that America would protect us in a stand off with a nuclear attack on the UK. The US will probably disown us if we got rid of our deterrent.

Look at Ukraine and Russia, would Russia have taken over the East of Ukraine if the still had nuclear weapons

Let's hope they are never used by anyone or a religious maniac don't become leader of Pakistan or India and we have nothing to threaten back with

Agreed with others

If a nuclear war ever started it would be the end of civilisation so I don't ever see any country launching them so it begs the question why do we all have them?

I get the detterant idea but I don't think any country wuld use them if terrorists got hold of them possibly they would but most of those groups don't have the means to obtain them and even then I think there own countries would have no choice but to hunt them down themselves as they would be at massive risk of being wiped out themselves if they didn't act

I actually think NATO should make every country decommission every nuclear weapon on the planet

No I am not saying that. What I am saying is what is the point in spunking a ridiculous amount of money up the wall on something we don't need. We have allies for a reason. Quite frankly when you look at the list of countries with nukes it's embarrassing that we are apart of that list.

Your'e second point about all those countries having nuclear weapons and not the west is ridiculous. We have invaded the middle east for oil many times, if they chose to do so who the hell are we to stop them after our previous behaviour. The Americans will never get rid of their nukes anyway.

Who could say that America would protect us in a stand off with a nuclear attack on the UK. The US will probably disown us if we got rid of our deterrent.

Look at Ukraine and Russia, would Russia have taken over the East of Ukraine if the still had nuclear weapons

Let's hope they are never used by anyone or a religious maniac don't become leader of Pakistan or India and we have nothing to threaten back with

The Americans would be involved somehow, in fact if we did get involved in a war that spiralled out of control and nuclear bombs were threatened it would be because of our blind support of America and their foreign policy. They won't disown us. The Russians and the Chinese are not the big baddies the media try and portray them as.

The Pakistanis have got enough problems at home and near to them to be concerned with us, the only time we come into direct conflict with anyone in the middle east is when WE invade them.

Agreed with others

If a nuclear war ever started it would be the end of civilisation so I don't ever see any country launching them so it begs the question why do we all have them?

I get the detterant idea but I don't think any country wuld use them if terrorists got hold of them possibly they would but most of those groups don't have the means to obtain them and even then I think there own countries would have no choice but to hunt them down themselves as they would be at massive risk of being wiped out themselves if they didn't act

I actually think NATO should make every country decommission every nuclear weapon on the planet

Problem here is that if Nato got rid of their nuclear deterrent, then the world could not blow itself up because it would be a one sided obliteration

So we would get rid of our Nukes (not me lol) and then expect America to protect us from not just Russia. Many unpredictable states have them such as Pakistan and North Korea soon to be Iran and the list is getting bigger. So yes we need them without a doubt and to have better than the rest that may threaten us. Yes other countries do well without them. But without NATO looking after them how threatened would they feel if they was left on there own ? They have kept us safe for decades why change now ?

So we would get rid of our Nukes (not me lol) and then expect America to protect us from not just Russia. Many unpredictable states have them such as Pakistan and North Korea soon to be Iran and the list is getting bigger. So yes we need them without a doubt and to have better than the rest that may threaten us. Yes other countries do well without them. But without NATO looking after them how threatened would they feel if they was left on there own ? They have kept us safe for decades why change now ?

Because they cost a fortune and most countries including countries like Germany and Australia do not have them. I'd rather spend our money on protecting us from acts of terrorism like the beheading of Lee Rigby etc. Remember this, nuclear weapons did not stop 9/11.

Also are Pakistan an unpredictable state? We've been working with them for decades in Afghanistan.

So we would get rid of our Nukes (not me lol) and then expect America to protect us from not just Russia. Many unpredictable states have them such as Pakistan and North Korea soon to be Iran and the list is getting bigger. So yes we need them without a doubt and to have better than the rest that may threaten us. Yes other countries do well without them. But without NATO looking after them how threatened would they feel if they was left on there own ? They have kept us safe for decades why change now ?

Because they cost a fortune and most countries including countries like Germany and Australia do not have them. I'd rather spend our money on protecting us from acts of terrorism like the beheading of Lee Rigby etc. Remember this, nuclear weapons did not stop 9/11.

Also are Pakistan an unpredictable state? We've been working with them for decades in Afghanistan.

9/11 was a conspiracy !!! No planes hit those towers, they were brought down by controlled explosives

So we would get rid of our Nukes (not me lol) and then expect America to protect us from not just Russia. Many unpredictable states have them such as Pakistan and North Korea soon to be Iran and the list is getting bigger. So yes we need them without a doubt and to have better than the rest that may threaten us. Yes other countries do well without them. But without NATO looking after them how threatened would they feel if they was left on there own ? They have kept us safe for decades why change now ?

Because they cost a fortune and most countries including countries like Germany and Australia do not have them. I'd rather spend our money on protecting us from acts of terrorism like the beheading of Lee Rigby etc. Remember this, nuclear weapons did not stop 9/11.

Also are Pakistan an unpredictable state? We've been working with them for decades in Afghanistan.

9/11 was a conspiracy !!! No planes hit those towers, they were brought down by controlled explosives

Well the fact remains nuclear weapons didn't stop it from happening.

So we would get rid of our Nukes (not me lol) and then expect America to protect us from not just Russia. Many unpredictable states have them such as Pakistan and North Korea soon to be Iran and the list is getting bigger. So yes we need them without a doubt and to have better than the rest that may threaten us. Yes other countries do well without them. But without NATO looking after them how threatened would they feel if they was left on there own ? They have kept us safe for decades why change now ?

Because they cost a fortune and most countries including countries like Germany and Australia do not have them. I'd rather spend our money on protecting us from acts of terrorism like the beheading of Lee Rigby etc. Remember this, nuclear weapons did not stop 9/11.

Also are Pakistan an unpredictable state? We've been working with them for decades in Afghanistan.

9/11 was a conspiracy !!! No planes hit those towers, they were brought down by controlled explosives

Well the fact remains nuclear weapons didn't stop it from happening.

No it didn't stop those planes hitting the tower. ( obscured claims it didn't happen. At most the yanks new it was gonna happen and let it) We have been working with them for decades ? Maybe so but they have also been working against us as well. No you ain't gonna stop terrorism with them but the likes of Russia and many more states are very dangerous. Germany doesn't have them and for a reason but they are protected 100% by NATO, so they as good as have them.

So we would get rid of our Nukes (not me lol) and then expect America to protect us from not just Russia. Many unpredictable states have them such as Pakistan and North Korea soon to be Iran and the list is getting bigger. So yes we need them without a doubt and to have better than the rest that may threaten us. Yes other countries do well without them. But without NATO looking after them how threatened would they feel if they was left on there own ? They have kept us safe for decades why change now ?

Because they cost a fortune and most countries including countries like Germany and Australia do not have them. I'd rather spend our money on protecting us from acts of terrorism like the beheading of Lee Rigby etc. Remember this, nuclear weapons did not stop 9/11.

Also are Pakistan an unpredictable state? We've been working with them for decades in Afghanistan.

9/11 was a conspiracy !!! No planes hit those towers, they were brought down by controlled explosives

What utter bollocks. So thousands was in on this conspiracy then ? Those that witnessed it. Those that recorded it. I do have this feeling and that's all it is that the American government knew about the plan and let it happen. But I doubt we will ever find out. A bit like who shot Kennedy

So we would get rid of our Nukes (not me lol) and then expect America to protect us from not just Russia. Many unpredictable states have them such as Pakistan and North Korea soon to be Iran and the list is getting bigger. So yes we need them without a doubt and to have better than the rest that may threaten us. Yes other countries do well without them. But without NATO looking after them how threatened would they feel if they was left on there own ? They have kept us safe for decades why change now ?

Because they cost a fortune and most countries including countries like Germany and Australia do not have them. I'd rather spend our money on protecting us from acts of terrorism like the beheading of Lee Rigby etc. Remember this, nuclear weapons did not stop 9/11.

Also are Pakistan an unpredictable state? We've been working with them for decades in Afghanistan.

9/11 was a conspiracy !!! No planes hit those towers, they were brought down by controlled explosives

Well the fact remains nuclear weapons didn't stop it from happening.

Hidden agenda here. There's an awful lot of money to be made out of nuclear weapons which will never ever be used!

With out nuclear DETERRENT this country would be steam rolled. We have a highly trained armed forces but unfortunately hasn't the strength, equipment or funding to be able to fight multiple major conflicts.

I say spend more on defence.

Nukes you do know that we are also in NATO as well? Why can't we be protected 100% by NATO? Nothing sopping us signing up to the sharing programme. Everyone saying we would be steamrolled if we didn't have nukes are making me laugh. You mean just like the whole of Scandinavia, Australia and all of central and South America have been steamrolled?

Looking at the list of countries with Nukes most of them have come under attack recently. 7/7 bombs in the UK, Charlie Hebdo and numerous other attacks in France, Mumbai killings in India, Russian plane downed last week abd constant terrorism attacks form chechnya, 9/11 etc.

Nukes bare a deterrent to other countries with nuclear arms that they will get back what they do to us if we didn't have them we would of been steam rolled already

So we would get rid of our Nukes (not me lol) and then expect America to protect us from not just Russia. Many unpredictable states have them such as Pakistan and North Korea soon to be Iran and the list is getting bigger. So yes we need them without a doubt and to have better than the rest that may threaten us. Yes other countries do well without them. But without NATO looking after them how threatened would they feel if they was left on there own ? They have kept us safe for decades why change now ?

Because they cost a fortune and most countries including countries like Germany and Australia do not have them. I'd rather spend our money on protecting us from acts of terrorism like the beheading of Lee Rigby etc. Remember this, nuclear weapons did not stop 9/11.

Also are Pakistan an unpredictable state? We've been working with them for decades in Afghanistan.

9/11 was a conspiracy !!! No planes hit those towers, they were brought down by controlled explosives

Planes 100% hit the twin towers that's not in question mate who done it could be

Get rid and put it into RAF defence.

We don't need nuclear weapons. We wouldn't use them anyway so why have it. Hardly any countries have nuclear weapons and those that don't get by just fine.

Nuclear weapons did not save Lee Rigby or stop the attacks in London ten years ago.

For goodness sake let's have a grownup debate on this issue, to say that nuclear weapons didn't save Lee Rugby or stop the bombings in London is absolutely nonsense, those attacks were carried out by individual terrorists, what is the case though, Japan surrendered in the second world war,saving countless number of lives,by the use of two nuclear bombs

We don't need nuclear weapons. We wouldn't use them anyway so why have it. Hardly any countries have nuclear weapons and those that don't get by just fine.

Nuclear weapons did not save Lee Rigby or stop the attacks in London ten years ago.

For goodness sake let's have a grownup debate on this issue, to say that nuclear weapons didn't save Lee Rugby or stop the bombings in London is absolutely nonsense, those attacks were carried out by individual terrorists, what is the case though, Japan surrendered in the second world war,saving countless number of lives,by the use of two nuclear bombs

And thousands of innocents were killed to save our own skin

We don't need nuclear weapons. We wouldn't use them anyway so why have it. Hardly any countries have nuclear weapons and those that don't get by just fine.

Nuclear weapons did not save Lee Rigby or stop the attacks in London ten years ago.

For goodness sake let's have a grownup debate on this issue, to say that nuclear weapons didn't save Lee Rugby or stop the bombings in London is absolutely nonsense, those attacks were carried out by individual terrorists, what is the case though, Japan surrendered in the second world war,saving countless number of lives,by the use of two nuclear bombs

Individual terrorists are the threat of the day. Nuclear weapons will not save us from that. You need to stop living in the cold war era, Russia, China or anyone else for that matter are not going to nuke us anytime soon.

I'd rather have them than not and I don't care how much it costs