Ralls set pieces

Im fed up of all pundits etc saying whitts is a set piece specialist, when was the last time he did anything special? His corners are all one dimensional and hasn't scored a free kick.
Ralls created 2 goals yesterday from set pieces, now surely everyone can jump off the whitts needs to play band wagon and let Ralls develop

If Whitts is available Slade WILL pick him and Whitts WILL take every corner and attacking free kick.

That's just the way it is so we'd better get used to it.

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

We played 3 games without Whittingham last season and won them all, scoring 8 goals. Yesterday without Whittingham, we win 2-0 and score the first goals from outfield players since Mason scored at Birmingham. Both goals were created from Ralls set pieces, which puts the myth about Whittingham needing to play for his set pieces to rest.

Do you even look at statistics?

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

Ffs rfmh heres a stat for you this season whitts has not played in 4 of our league games so far
we have won all 4 scoring 10 goals
ralls has had 1 game as our dead ball taker and we have scored 2 goals from his delivery into the box
how many games has whitts had taking our free kicks and corners to get his 4 assists
whitts is history , ralls is the future

I have to say that Rall's delivery reminded me of Whitts. of old.

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

We played 3 games without Whittingham last season and won them all, scoring 8 goals. Yesterday without Whittingham, we win 2-0 and score the first goals from outfield players since Mason scored at Birmingham. Both goals were created from Ralls set pieces, which puts the myth about Whittingham needing to play for his set pieces to rest.

Do you even look at statistics?

I'm a massive Whitts fan and the two Ralls assists puts him level with Whitts now on 4 a piece. Ralls did well yesterday I must say and don't expect Slade to change it come the Derby game. I've been pro Whitts for a long time but with him not playing yesterday the anti Whitts fans will now get their wish after a decent Ralls performance.

I see Mason is now the focus of the fans because Cardiff fans love a scapegoat.

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

We played 3 games without Whittingham last season and won them all, scoring 8 goals. Yesterday without Whittingham, we win 2-0 and score the first goals from outfield players since Mason scored at Birmingham. Both goals were created from Ralls set pieces, which puts the myth about Whittingham needing to play for his set pieces to rest.

Do you even look at statistics?

Where did I say Whitts had to take all set pieces

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

We played 3 games without Whittingham last season and won them all, scoring 8 goals. Yesterday without Whittingham, we win 2-0 and score the first goals from outfield players since Mason scored at Birmingham. Both goals were created from Ralls set pieces, which puts the myth about Whittingham needing to play for his set pieces to rest.

Do you even look at statistics?

Where did I say Whitts had to take all set pieces

What else can he f*cking do then.

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

We played 3 games without Whittingham last season and won them all, scoring 8 goals. Yesterday without Whittingham, we win 2-0 and score the first goals from outfield players since Mason scored at Birmingham. Both goals were created from Ralls set pieces, which puts the myth about Whittingham needing to play for his set pieces to rest.

Do you even look at statistics?

I'm a massive Whitts fan and the two Ralls assists puts him level with Whitts now on 4 a piece. Ralls did well yesterday I must say and don't expect Slade to change it come the Derby game. I've been pro Whitts for a long time but with him not playing yesterday the anti Whitts fans will now get their wish after a decent Ralls performance.

I see Mason is now the focus of the fans because Cardiff fans love a scapegoat.

I have been a Whitts fan for years but we have to be realistic and accept at 31 years old, he isn't getting any younger and his fitness and performances will start gradually declining now. Whitts currently doesn't deserve to be in the team and I hope Slade gives Ralls a run in the middle now.

As for Mason, I had high hopes for him when he initially joined us, but it's looking obvious we're going to need a lot better to look a threat up front. Mason is good at finding space to tuck a chance away, but unless he's given service, he doesn't contribute anything. He isn't pacey, he isn't strong, he isn't a threat in the air, he can't beat players, he gets outmuscled, he's simply way too easy to play against. Centre backs must be rubbing their hands when they know they're marking Mason at the moment, as they know they will have an easy game dealing with Mason.

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

We played 3 games without Whittingham last season and won them all, scoring 8 goals. Yesterday without Whittingham, we win 2-0 and score the first goals from outfield players since Mason scored at Birmingham. Both goals were created from Ralls set pieces, which puts the myth about Whittingham needing to play for his set pieces to rest.

Do you even look at statistics?

Where did I say Whitts had to take all set pieces

What else can he f*cking do then.

He's got four assists this season.

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

We played 3 games without Whittingham last season and won them all, scoring 8 goals. Yesterday without Whittingham, we win 2-0 and score the first goals from outfield players since Mason scored at Birmingham. Both goals were created from Ralls set pieces, which puts the myth about Whittingham needing to play for his set pieces to rest.

Do you even look at statistics?

Where did I say Whitts had to take all set pieces

What else can he f*cking do then.

oh comecome
he can slow play down
he can pass sideways
he can even pass backwards
just have another look at the leeds goal just before that guy let his shot go
whitts was just jogging along side him no intention to close him down
so he can also do bugger all

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

We played 3 games without Whittingham last season and won them all, scoring 8 goals. Yesterday without Whittingham, we win 2-0 and score the first goals from outfield players since Mason scored at Birmingham. Both goals were created from Ralls set pieces, which puts the myth about Whittingham needing to play for his set pieces to rest.

Do you even look at statistics?

I'm a massive Whitts fan and the two Ralls assists puts him level with Whitts now on 4 a piece. Ralls did well yesterday I must say and don't expect Slade to change it come the Derby game. I've been pro Whitts for a long time but with him not playing yesterday the anti Whitts fans will now get their wish after a decent Ralls performance.

I see Mason is now the focus of the fans because Cardiff fans love a scapegoat.

I have been a Whitts fan for years but we have to be realistic and accept at 31 years old, he isn't getting any younger and his fitness and performances will start gradually declining now. Whitts currently doesn't deserve to be in the team and I hope Slade gives Ralls a run in the middle now.

As for Mason, I had high hopes for him when he initially joined us, but it's looking obvious we're going to need a lot better to look a threat up front. Mason is good at finding space to tuck a chance away, but unless he's given service, he doesn't contribute anything. He isn't pacey, he isn't strong, he isn't a threat in the air, he can't beat players, he gets outmuscled, he's simply way too easy to play against. Centre backs must be rubbing their hands when they know they're marking Mason at the moment, as they know they will have an easy game dealing with Mason.

Up until 3 years ago I thought Wittingham was God. But then I came to realise he was becoming a luxury we couldn't afford to have.

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

Really bad English but I think I grasp what you mean, I'm not disputing assists, but how many have we conceded because he lost his man or didn't get stuck in.
Yesterday was the 1st time I've seen a one two in the middle for ages. Time to move on now.

Ralls is what Whitts needs to be but he can't because he is not a cm he is a winger for me and its pleasing that Ralls is great with set pieces as well.

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

I am a HUGE Ralls fan and to me he can do everything Whittingham can and a lot more. Thankfully some things he chooses not to do. However, as much as I rate the guy and will always sing his praises, Ralls did not have 2 assists yesterday, he just took 2 set pieces which I would expect ANY professional footballer to do without breaking sweat. So in my book there were nil assists yesterday, just full marks to the scorers!

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

Really bad English but I think I grasp what you mean, I'm not disputing assists, but how many have we conceded because he lost his man or didn't get stuck in.
Yesterday was the 1st time I've seen a one two in the middle for ages. Time to move on now.

If you can't google a meme I feel for you.

Your initial post discussed set pieces, yet now you talk about getting stuck in. So good to know you admit you're wrong on the initial front.

Won't find me disputing that Gunnar, Ralls and Dikgacoi are all better at breaking down play, Whitts in a three with and two of the former with fast wingers and KJ up front would be great to see. But under Slade it's not going to happen, so Whitts plays more or less out of position, still gets assists and plays as well as someone playing out of position can. Yet our fans slate someone who deserves far more respect but because our fans love a scapegoat (Hudson, McPhail, Miller, (whisper it even Marshall once upon a time)).

Ralls is what Whitts needs to be but he can't because he is not a cm he is a winger for me and its pleasing that Ralls is great with set pieces as well.

This did make my laugh, how can Whittingham be classed as a winger? He has the pace of a rocking horse and the heart of a mouse. Left sided midfield palyer at a push but never a winger. If he is to be played as a left sided midfield player, the left back, Fabio or Malone need to be consistently over lapping to provide width further up the field. A particularly difficult job away from home.

Personally, I don't think has has played well enough to be in the team since half-way through our promotion season. He is one paced, pedestrian, lacking strength and half hearted in the tackle. Opposition teams know if you press him quickly when he has the ball, he is completely ineffective.

Ralls is a much better player, with real potential, our side should be built around that ability.

Ralls is what Whitts needs to be but he can't because he is not a cm he is a winger for me and its pleasing that Ralls is great with set pieces as well.

This did make my laugh, how can Whittingham be classed as a winger? He has the pace of a rocking horse and the heart of a mouse. Left sided midfield palyer at a push but never a winger. If he is to be played as a left sided midfield player, the left back, Fabio or Malone need to be consistently over lapping to provide width further up the field. A particularly difficult job away from home.

Personally, I don't think has has played well enough to be in the team since half-way through our promotion season. He is one paced, pedestrian, lacking strength and half hearted in the tackle. Opposition teams know if you press him quickly when he has the ball, he is completely ineffective.

Ralls is a much better player, with real potential, our side should be built around that ability.

When Whitts played on the wing under DJ he was at his very best I don't why Malky turned him a defensive minded midfielder he should of kept him how he was but he is getting old and said so himself so for me now he should be on the bench and Ralls take over.

Ralls is what Whitts needs to be but he can't because he is not a cm he is a winger for me and its pleasing that Ralls is great with set pieces as well.

This did make my laugh, how can Whittingham be classed as a winger? He has the pace of a rocking horse and the heart of a mouse. Left sided midfield palyer at a push but never a winger. If he is to be played as a left sided midfield player, the left back, Fabio or Malone need to be consistently over lapping to provide width further up the field. A particularly difficult job away from home.

Personally, I don't think has has played well enough to be in the team since half-way through our promotion season. He is one paced, pedestrian, lacking strength and half hearted in the tackle. Opposition teams know if you press him quickly when he has the ball, he is completely ineffective.

Ralls is a much better player, with real potential, our side should be built around that ability.

Absolutely correct but Whittingham did start out as a winger with Villa and its his best position but hes too old and slow to carry it off now.

Whitts has 4 assists his season, the championship high is 6.

Do you even statistic?

Really bad English but I think I grasp what you mean, I'm not disputing assists, but how many have we conceded because he lost his man or didn't get stuck in.
Yesterday was the 1st time I've seen a one two in the middle for ages. Time to move on now.

If you can't google a meme I feel for you.

Your initial post discussed set pieces, yet now you talk about getting stuck in. So good to know you admit you're wrong on the initial front.

Won't find me disputing that Gunnar, Ralls and Dikgacoi are all better at breaking down play, Whitts in a three with and two of the former with fast wingers and KJ up front would be great to see. But under Slade it's not going to happen, so Whitts plays more or less out of position, still gets assists and plays as well as someone playing out of position can. Yet our fans slate someone who deserves far more respect but because our fans love a scapegoat (Hudson, McPhail, Miller, (whisper it even Marshall once upon a time)).

I wish i could google a meme - sounds a lot of fun!

Ralls is what Whitts needs to be but he can't because he is not a cm he is a winger for me and its pleasing that Ralls is great with set pieces as well.

This did make my laugh, how can Whittingham be classed as a winger? He has the pace of a rocking horse and the heart of a mouse. Left sided midfield palyer at a push but never a winger. If he is to be played as a left sided midfield player, the left back, Fabio or Malone need to be consistently over lapping to provide width further up the field. A particularly difficult job away from home.

Personally, I don't think has has played well enough to be in the team since half-way through our promotion season. He is one paced, pedestrian, lacking strength and half hearted in the tackle. Opposition teams know if you press him quickly when he has the ball, he is completely ineffective.

Ralls is a much better player, with real potential, our side should be built around that ability.

Absolutely correct but Whittingham did start out as a winger with Villa and its his best position but hes too old and slow to carry it off now.

Yes.

Ralls is what Whitts needs to be but he can't because he is not a cm he is a winger for me and its pleasing that Ralls is great with set pieces as well.

This did make my laugh, how can Whittingham be classed as a winger? He has the pace of a rocking horse and the heart of a mouse. Left sided midfield palyer at a push but never a winger. If he is to be played as a left sided midfield player, the left back, Fabio or Malone need to be consistently over lapping to provide width further up the field. A particularly difficult job away from home.

Personally, I don't think has has played well enough to be in the team since half-way through our promotion season. He is one paced, pedestrian, lacking strength and half hearted in the tackle. Opposition teams know if you press him quickly when he has the ball, he is completely ineffective.

Ralls is a much better player, with real potential, our side should be built around that ability.

Absolutely correct but Whittingham did start out as a winger with Villa and its his best position but hes too old and slow to carry it off now.

Yes.

He was never a traditional winger even in his early days at Aston Villa, he palyed wide left as a midfield palyer in the mound of Graeme Rix or Liam Brady at Arsenal. He was never quick and he struggled to go past defenders like a true winger. People like Jimmy Johnstone, Ryan Giggs, Andre Kanchelskis, Willie Morgan and our own Wilie Anderson or Paul Parry would smile at Whittingham being classified as a winger.

Ralls is what Whitts needs to be but he can't because he is not a cm he is a winger for me and its pleasing that Ralls is great with set pieces as well.

This did make my laugh, how can Whittingham be classed as a winger? He has the pace of a rocking horse and the heart of a mouse. Left sided midfield palyer at a push but never a winger. If he is to be played as a left sided midfield player, the left back, Fabio or Malone need to be consistently over lapping to provide width further up the field. A particularly difficult job away from home.

Personally, I don't think has has played well enough to be in the team since half-way through our promotion season. He is one paced, pedestrian, lacking strength and half hearted in the tackle. Opposition teams know if you press him quickly when he has the ball, he is completely ineffective.

Ralls is a much better player, with real potential, our side should be built around that ability.

Absolutely correct but Whittingham did start out as a winger with Villa and its his best position but hes too old and slow to carry it off now.

Yes.

He was never a traditional winger even in his early days at Aston Villa, he palyed wide left as a midfield palyer in the mound of Graeme Rix or Liam Brady at Arsenal. He was never quick and he struggled to go past defenders like a true winger. People like Jimmy Johnstone, Ryan Giggs, Andre Kanchelskis, Willie Morgan and our own Wilie Anderson or Paul Parry would smile at Whittingham being classified as a winger.

He was no George Best!

Ralls is what Whitts needs to be but he can't because he is not a cm he is a winger for me and its pleasing that Ralls is great with set pieces as well.

This did make my laugh, how can Whittingham be classed as a winger? He has the pace of a rocking horse and the heart of a mouse. Left sided midfield palyer at a push but never a winger. If he is to be played as a left sided midfield player, the left back, Fabio or Malone need to be consistently over lapping to provide width further up the field. A particularly difficult job away from home.

Personally, I don't think has has played well enough to be in the team since half-way through our promotion season. He is one paced, pedestrian, lacking strength and half hearted in the tackle. Opposition teams know if you press him quickly when he has the ball, he is completely ineffective.

Ralls is a much better player, with real potential, our side should be built around that ability.

Absolutely correct but Whittingham did start out as a winger with Villa and its his best position but hes too old and slow to carry it off now.

Yes.

He was never a traditional winger even in his early days at Aston Villa, he palyed wide left as a midfield palyer in the mound of Graeme Rix or Liam Brady at Arsenal. He was never quick and he struggled to go past defenders like a true winger. People like Jimmy Johnstone, Ryan Giggs, Andre Kanchelskis, Willie Morgan and our own Wilie Anderson or Paul Parry would smile at Whittingham being classified as a winger.

But he scored a shitload of goals when he was there under DJ.

Ralls is what Whitts needs to be but he can't because he is not a cm he is a winger for me and its pleasing that Ralls is great with set pieces as well.

This did make my laugh, how can Whittingham be classed as a winger? He has the pace of a rocking horse and the heart of a mouse. Left sided midfield palyer at a push but never a winger. If he is to be played as a left sided midfield player, the left back, Fabio or Malone need to be consistently over lapping to provide width further up the field. A particularly difficult job away from home.

Personally, I don't think has has played well enough to be in the team since half-way through our promotion season. He is one paced, pedestrian, lacking strength and half hearted in the tackle. Opposition teams know if you press him quickly when he has the ball, he is completely ineffective.

Ralls is a much better player, with real potential, our side should be built around that ability.

Absolutely correct but Whittingham did start out as a winger with Villa and its his best position but hes too old and slow to carry it off now.

Yes.

He was never a traditional winger even in his early days at Aston Villa, he palyed wide left as a midfield palyer in the mound of Graeme Rix or Liam Brady at Arsenal. He was never quick and he struggled to go past defenders like a true winger. People like Jimmy Johnstone, Ryan Giggs, Andre Kanchelskis, Willie Morgan and our own Wilie Anderson or Paul Parry would smile at Whittingham being classified as a winger.

He was no George Best!

His major asset as a player, even a young one, has been his ability to deliver passes with his left foot and strike a ball from a dead ball situation. I remember him playing for England U21 as a left back behind Stewart Downing. The manger wanted to make the most of their contrasting attributes on that left hand side. Problem was Whittingham couldn't tackle or run so he was totally exposed defensively.

Ahh Paul Parry, awesome for 20mins in a row at some point, every 90mins.

Ralls is what Whitts needs to be but he can't because he is not a cm he is a winger for me and its pleasing that Ralls is great with set pieces as well.

This did make my laugh, how can Whittingham be classed as a winger? He has the pace of a rocking horse and the heart of a mouse. Left sided midfield palyer at a push but never a winger. If he is to be played as a left sided midfield player, the left back, Fabio or Malone need to be consistently over lapping to provide width further up the field. A particularly difficult job away from home.

Personally, I don't think has has played well enough to be in the team since half-way through our promotion season. He is one paced, pedestrian, lacking strength and half hearted in the tackle. Opposition teams know if you press him quickly when he has the ball, he is completely ineffective.

Ralls is a much better player, with real potential, our side should be built around that ability.

Absolutely correct but Whittingham did start out as a winger with Villa and its his best position but hes too old and slow to carry it off now.

Yes.

He was never a traditional winger even in his early days at Aston Villa, he palyed wide left as a midfield palyer in the mound of Graeme Rix or Liam Brady at Arsenal. He was never quick and he struggled to go past defenders like a true winger. People like Jimmy Johnstone, Ryan Giggs, Andre Kanchelskis, Willie Morgan and our own Wilie Anderson or Paul Parry would smile at Whittingham being classified as a winger.

He was no George Best!

His major asset as a player, even a young one, has been his ability to deliver passes with his left foot and strike a ball from a dead ball situation. I remember him playing for England U21 as a left back behind Stewart Downing. The manger wanted to make the most of their contrasting attributes on that left hand side. Problem was Whittingham couldn't tackle or run so he was totally exposed defensively.

I agree with your summing up. I never saw him play England U21 but will see if I can pick up anything on the web. That could prove interesting to watch. I imagine he was at Villa then. Who was England U21 Manager then, was it Stuart Pearce?

Ralls is what Whitts needs to be but he can't because he is not a cm he is a winger for me and its pleasing that Ralls is great with set pieces as well.

This did make my laugh, how can Whittingham be classed as a winger? He has the pace of a rocking horse and the heart of a mouse. Left sided midfield palyer at a push but never a winger. If he is to be played as a left sided midfield player, the left back, Fabio or Malone need to be consistently over lapping to provide width further up the field. A particularly difficult job away from home.

Personally, I don't think has has played well enough to be in the team since half-way through our promotion season. He is one paced, pedestrian, lacking strength and half hearted in the tackle. Opposition teams know if you press him quickly when he has the ball, he is completely ineffective.

Ralls is a much better player, with real potential, our side should be built around that ability.

Absolutely correct but Whittingham did start out as a winger with Villa and its his best position but hes too old and slow to carry it off now.

Yes.

He was never a traditional winger even in his early days at Aston Villa, he palyed wide left as a midfield palyer in the mound of Graeme Rix or Liam Brady at Arsenal. He was never quick and he struggled to go past defenders like a true winger. People like Jimmy Johnstone, Ryan Giggs, Andre Kanchelskis, Willie Morgan and our own Wilie Anderson or Paul Parry would smile at Whittingham being classified as a winger.

He was no George Best!

His major asset as a player, even a young one, has been his ability to deliver passes with his left foot and strike a ball from a dead ball situation. I remember him playing for England U21 as a left back behind Stewart Downing. The manger wanted to make the most of their contrasting attributes on that left hand side. Problem was Whittingham couldn't tackle or run so he was totally exposed defensively.

I agree with your summing up. I never saw him play England U21 but will see if I can pick up anything on the web. That could prove interesting to watch. I imagine he was at Villa then. Who was England U21 Manager then, was it Stuart Pearce?

I have a feeling it was Peter Taylor. I am not absolutely certain!

Ralls is what Whitts needs to be but he can't because he is not a cm he is a winger for me and its pleasing that Ralls is great with set pieces as well.

This did make my laugh, how can Whittingham be classed as a winger? He has the pace of a rocking horse and the heart of a mouse. Left sided midfield palyer at a push but never a winger. If he is to be played as a left sided midfield player, the left back, Fabio or Malone need to be consistently over lapping to provide width further up the field. A particularly difficult job away from home.

Personally, I don't think has has played well enough to be in the team since half-way through our promotion season. He is one paced, pedestrian, lacking strength and half hearted in the tackle. Opposition teams know if you press him quickly when he has the ball, he is completely ineffective.

Ralls is a much better player, with real potential, our side should be built around that ability.

Absolutely correct but Whittingham did start out as a winger with Villa and its his best position but hes too old and slow to carry it off now.

Yes.

He was never a traditional winger even in his early days at Aston Villa, he palyed wide left as a midfield palyer in the mound of Graeme Rix or Liam Brady at Arsenal. He was never quick and he struggled to go past defenders like a true winger. People like Jimmy Johnstone, Ryan Giggs, Andre Kanchelskis, Willie Morgan and our own Wilie Anderson or Paul Parry would smile at Whittingham being classified as a winger.

But he scored a shitload of goals when he was there under DJ.

You do realise how long ago that single season of goal scoring success was? Did he ever repeat it?