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Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:06 pm

Over the 26 years I have followed Cardiff we have only had about 10 seasons where we consistently spent on players. 4 of those were under Tan. Most of the times that was due to simply having no money rather than a tactic employed by an owner to reduce the levels of debt (which apparently we want).

Hell, there were years where we couldn't buy players because we were under transfer embargoes. That was when we were in the dwang.

We either want the debt reduced or to spend on players and increase it. I don't think we can have both.

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 1:08 pm

He will never win with some after the rebrand, if he spends then they say about the debt, if he doesn't he isn't ambitious.

Personally I think the cut backs are great, just wish it was more off the playing staff and more paid for a football manager instead of slade.

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:18 pm

I do find it ironic those fans who want Tan out and at same time want him to sign so and so.

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:36 pm

maccydee wrote:Over the 26 years I have followed Cardiff we have only had about 10 seasons where we consistently spent on players. 4 of those were under Tan. Most of the times that was due to simply having no money rather than a tactic employed by an owner to reduce the levels of debt (which apparently we want).

Hell, there were years where we couldn't buy players because we were under transfer embargoes. That was when we were in the dwang.

We either want the debt reduced or to spend on players and increase it. I don't think we can have both.

Same people who say he needs to spend are the most vocal about t be so called debt

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 5:27 pm

2blue2handle wrote:He will never win with some after the rebrand, if he spends then they say about the debt, if he doesn't he isn't ambitious.

Personally I think the cut backs are great, just wish it was more off the playing staff and more paid for a football manager instead of slade.


Agree.

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:51 pm

wez1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Over the 26 years I have followed Cardiff we have only had about 10 seasons where we consistently spent on players. 4 of those were under Tan. Most of the times that was due to simply having no money rather than a tactic employed by an owner to reduce the levels of debt (which apparently we want).

Hell, there were years where we couldn't buy players because we were under transfer embargoes. That was when we were in the dwang.

We either want the debt reduced or to spend on players and increase it. I don't think we can have both.

Same people who say he needs to spend are the most vocal about t be so called debt


People will think we are the same with multiple accounts Wez

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Fri Nov 06, 2015 10:53 pm

maccydee wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
maccydee wrote:Over the 26 years I have followed Cardiff we have only had about 10 seasons where we consistently spent on players. 4 of those were under Tan. Most of the times that was due to simply having no money rather than a tactic employed by an owner to reduce the levels of debt (which apparently we want).

Hell, there were years where we couldn't buy players because we were under transfer embargoes. That was when we were in the dwang.

We either want the debt reduced or to spend on players and increase it. I don't think we can have both.

Same people who say he needs to spend are the most vocal about t be so called debt


People will think we are the same with multiple accounts Wez

Don't agree on everything mate :lol:

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:48 am

I've not given him any stick over lack of spending. Just want him gone.

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:02 am

Bakedalasker wrote:I've not given him any stick over lack of spending. Just want him gone.


It's not all about you Ian. :laughing6:

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:56 am

Spend nothing and go soon hopefully, never have I asked for a penny to be spent by that turd as I knew what was comming :thumbup:

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:34 am

CardiffBatman888 wrote:I do find it ironic those fans who want Tan out and at same time want him to sign so and so.


That's schizophrenia for you :lol:

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:44 am

Bakedalasker wrote:I've not given him any stick over lack of spending. Just want him gone.

Nor have I, I've just said Slade wanted two players, never got them as Tan seems to pick some of them like the player Saadi
I want us,debt free :ayatollah:
I'm upset with the way our club treats its fans and if I am wrong, why are we 12,000 season tickets holders down and many fans not even returning as soon as we started a decent run?

I'm upset with the Tan Circus, we've had the last 4 years and it's a fact, just look at the away and home support, away worse than when we were in Div 4.

Ive watched worse football than Slades over the years.

The way I feel about City Thanks to Tan and his puppets,is the worst Ive ever felt in 43 years of being a season ticket holder.
You can only feel this bad if you actually go and feel how bad it is at home and away,then it really does sink in and hurts.

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:51 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:I've not given him any stick over lack of spending. Just want him gone.

Nor have I, I've just said Slade wanted two players, never got them as Tan seems to pick some of them like the player Saadi
I want us,debt free :ayatollah:
I'm upset with the way our club treats its fans and if I am wrong, why are we 12,000 season tickets holders down and many fans not even returning as soon as we started a decent run?

I'm upset with the Tan Circus, we've had the last 4 years and it's a fact, just look at the away and home support, away worse than when we were in Div 4.


It will be a lot more next season. A lot more worse on the pitch and a more less in the stadium. Especially if this carries on.

"You stick by your club whatever" so I read some say.....not seem him at any of the games I've been to lately. :roll:

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:52 am

But the savings is not going against the debt that's the problem and I'm suspecting the club will go bust within 5 years

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:52 am

maccydee wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:I've not given him any stick over lack of spending. Just want him gone.


It's not all about you Ian. :laughing6:


:o

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:54 am

Military Junta wrote:But the savings is not going against the debt that's the problem and I'm suspecting the club will go bust within 5 years


Why should it Adam?

Thought the debt was going to be converted into equity.

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 9:56 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:I've not given him any stick over lack of spending. Just want him gone.

Nor have I, I've just said Slade wanted two players, never got them as Tan seems to pick some of them like the player Saadi
I want us,debt free :ayatollah:
I'm upset with the way our club treats its fans and if I am wrong, why are we 12,000 season tickets holders down and many fans not even returning as soon as we started a decent run?

I'm upset with the Tan Circus, we've had the last 4 years and it's a fact, just look at the away and home support, away worse than when we were in Div 4.


It will be a lot more next season. A lot more worse on the pitch and a more less in the stadium. Especially if this carries on.

"You stick by your club whatever" so I read some say.....not seem him at any of the games I've been to lately. :roll:



Ive watched worse football than Slades over the years.

The way I feel about City Thanks to Tan and his puppets,is the worst Ive ever felt in 43 years of being a season ticket holder.
You can only feel this bad if you actually go and feel how bad it is at home and away,then it really does sink in and hurts.


Tan does not even come to Cardiff,he has no interest in us,he wants out and has hurt the loyal fans badly over the last 4 years,I can never forgive him,he took the heart out of Cardiff City and destroyed the passion this club once had.

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:03 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:But the savings is not going against the debt that's the problem and I'm suspecting the club will go bust within 5 years


Why should it Adam?

Thought the debt was going to be converted into equity.


It's all a load of shit and if people really think that he will turn debt into equity then they need to take their heads out of the sand. He's just doing what Sam Hamman done just on a much bigger scale ffs

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:07 am

Military Junta wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Military Junta wrote:But the savings is not going against the debt that's the problem and I'm suspecting the club will go bust within 5 years


Why should it Adam?

Thought the debt was going to be converted into equity.


It's all a load of shit and if people really think that he will turn debt into equity then they need to take their heads out of the sand. He's just doing what Sam Hamman done just on a much bigger scale ffs


I've always found it difficult to believe the debt to equity would happen. My understanding is that if we was to convert his investment would become pennies over night.

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 10:10 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:I've not given him any stick over lack of spending. Just want him gone.

Nor have I, I've just said Slade wanted two players, never got them as Tan seems to pick some of them like the player Saadi
I want us,debt free :ayatollah:
I'm upset with the way our club treats its fans and if I am wrong, why are we 12,000 season tickets holders down and many fans not even returning as soon as we started a decent run?

I'm upset with the Tan Circus, we've had the last 4 years and it's a fact, just look at the away and home support, away worse than when we were in Div 4.


It will be a lot more next season. A lot more worse on the pitch and a more less in the stadium. Especially if this carries on.

"You stick by your club whatever" so I read some say.....not seem him at any of the games I've been to lately. :roll:



Ive watched worse football than Slades over the years.

The way I feel about City Thanks to Tan and his puppets,is the worst Ive ever felt in 43 years of being a season ticket holder.
You can only feel this bad if you actually go and feel how bad it is at home and away,then it really does sink in and hurts.


Tan does not even come to Cardiff,he has no interest in us,he wants out and has hurt the loyal fans badly over the last 4 years,I can never forgive him,he took the heart out of Cardiff City and destroyed the passion this club once had.


Personally I don't think the football on the pitch now is that far off from those days.

Tuesday night we had a number of breakaways but within a split second the hope was gone. Very uch the same level of confidence we had in the dungeon league.

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 11:25 am

Bakedalasker wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:I've not given him any stick over lack of spending. Just want him gone.

Nor have I, I've just said Slade wanted two players, never got them as Tan seems to pick some of them like the player Saadi
I want us,debt free :ayatollah:
I'm upset with the way our club treats its fans and if I am wrong, why are we 12,000 season tickets holders down and many fans not even returning as soon as we started a decent run?

I'm upset with the Tan Circus, we've had the last 4 years and it's a fact, just look at the away and home support, away worse than when we were in Div 4.


It will be a lot more next season. A lot more worse on the pitch and a more less in the stadium. Especially if this carries on.

"You stick by your club whatever" so I read some say.....not seem him at any of the games I've been to lately. :roll:



Ive watched worse football than Slades over the years.

The way I feel about City Thanks to Tan and his puppets,is the worst Ive ever felt in 43 years of being a season ticket holder.
You can only feel this bad if you actually go and feel how bad it is at home and away,then it really does sink in and hurts.


Tan does not even come to Cardiff,he has no interest in us,he wants out and has hurt the loyal fans badly over the last 4 years,I can never forgive him,he took the heart out of Cardiff City and destroyed the passion this club once had.


Personally I don't think the football on the pitch now is that far off from those days.

Tuesday night we had a number of breakaways but within a split second the hope was gone. Very uch the same level of confidence we had in the dungeon league.


Yes Tuesday night was another new low under Tan/Slade

But you can't compare today's football over all to 9 years in the 4th Division, struggling near the bottom and playing Rochdale,Hartlepool,Halifax, Darlinghton week in week out, we haven't got that low yet?

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:03 pm

Military Junta wrote:But the savings is not going against the debt that's the problem and I'm suspecting the club will go bust within 5 years


If Tan left we would go bust. Much like what would have happened had he not bought us.

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:15 pm

maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:But the savings is not going against the debt that's the problem and I'm suspecting the club will go bust within 5 years


If Tan left we would go bust. Much like what would have happened had he not bought us.

And most of the debt is Tans

To many fans we are no longer the Cardiff City they grew up knowing

Re: Why is Tan getting stick for not spending?

Sat Nov 07, 2015 12:50 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
maccydee wrote:
Military Junta wrote:But the savings is not going against the debt that's the problem and I'm suspecting the club will go bust within 5 years


If Tan left we would go bust. Much like what would have happened had he not bought us.

And most of the debt is Tans

To many fans we are no longer the Cardiff City they grew up knowing


The fact the debt is to Tan makes it safer for us. When to others we can be wound up. Tan cannot and will not wind us up.

It hasn't been the same for ages Annis. Pre Tan. Probably under the Riddler I started to notice it.