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THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGER

Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:04 pm

THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGER


By Terry Phillips

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05/10/2015

The negatives...


No close relationship with the fans

Many City supporters still don’t believe Slade is the man for their club.

He is winning some over because the team are playing much better football, but he needs to step up his public relations.

Slade needs to get out and meet fans. Yes, he might take a little stick from the non-believers, but he is strong enough to take that and answer questions honestly. Malky Mackay would go out and meet fans. He went into the valleys and even to London to ensure he stayed close to the Bluebirds’ faithful. I know Cardiff City Supporters Club and Cardiff City Trust would love to set up a gathering allowing fans to meet Slade and ask questions.





Lack of pace and leadership

City still need to add pace and bring in a player or two who can take the lead role during matches. Neither David Marshall or Sean Morrison are ideal in the captaincy role.

Mark Hudson had all the qualities needed when he was at the club. He had an air of authority and City could do with him back in the squad now.

The loss of Ben Turner through injury has also been a blow in that respect.

Slade needs to add speed and leadership when the January transfer window opens.





City concede possession too easily

There are times when Slade’s team concede possession too easily - and increase the pressure on themselves.

They are working on that and will hopefully improve over the season in terms of keeping the ball when they have it.

Too sloppy at the back: There always seems to be the chance of an error in the City back division. Turner is still some way from fitness, but Slade has Morrison, Connolly and Manga available. Connolly has made an excellent start to the season, while Manga was player of the year in 2014-15.

Slade, though, must find the right combination in front of goalkeeper Marshall.





Is there a Plan B?

The manager loves his 4-4-2, but does he have anything to fall back on? We have rarely seen any evidence of that.

I have talked to the manager on this subject and he said: “There is a Plan B, but if I use it too often then clearly Plan A won’t be working.”

The 4-4-2 Slade employs is far from simple. It’s a fluid, ever-changing system.

The midfield wide men, Anthony Pilkington and Joe Ralls at the moment, love to tuck in and both full-backs are encouraged to get forward at the right time. Ralls is the key, checking back to cover at left-back and switching roles with Whittingham at times.

The key is that Slade’s players are 100% clear on what they are supposed to be doing - and are encouraged to tell team-mates who are not sticking to the game plan and carrying out their own duties.

But it would be helpful to have a second and third plan when, for instance, City are being outnumbered through midfield.

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:16 pm

I think the important thing to note is the steady progress. As long as we are near the top 6 at Christmas then a couple of additions in January really gives us a chance.

I'm a big fan of Manga, but with Connolly playing so well it would be really unfair to drop him, especially if Bruno has this ongoing shoulder problem.

I think Slade has the right balance of relations with the fans. There are a lot of rude and obnoxious people who will pour abuse at him just because he's not Malky and is perceived by some to be "Tan's man". You can't blame him for keeping a low profile. :sladein:

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:37 pm

We're football 'supporters'. It's our job to support regardless, I don't need to meet him to be able to do that. I like slade but I will back any Cardiff manager and I even did so with ole right until he was sacked. You won't get anywhere without pulling in the same direction.

The captaincy issue seems irrelevant to me. Hudson maybe a better captain than morrison but who really knows? Who says that? Perhaps all the players look to him and he's a good presence in the dressing room. Nobody knows any different lets be honest.

As for plan B....
1 nil down at Fulham on opening day, 1 nil down to Charlton in the second half and also 2nil down to qpr. Don't recall losing any. Even the Huddersfield game was 0-0 for ages but slade made changes and we finished them off at the end.

The negativity is getting so boring now....

What do we want as fans? Our blue back? Our manager to get the team playing passing football instead of the dreaded hoofball? A team that battles to the end??? All that is in in place for the first time in years yet no one is happy.

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:03 pm

losing possession? to my knowledge this was only on sat, memory serves me right possession stats were high prior to Saturday, :thumbup:

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:40 pm

I prefer the positives. :thumbup:

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:09 pm

:sladeout: :thumbup: :wave:

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:17 pm

I'm sorry but Slade needing to step up his public relations is complete rubbish. After the Charlton game, Slade stayed behind, had pictures taken, signed autographs and had long chats with fans for a very lengthy time.

My friend showed me a picture of himself with Slade after the game and the stand in the background was totally empty! Everyone had left, but Slade stayed behind and took time out to interact with the fans.

Slade comes across as a very decent person, our players enjoy working with him and he's always very approachable with the fans.

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:26 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:I'm sorry but Slade needing to step up his public relations is complete rubbish. After the Charlton game, Slade stayed behind, had pictures taken, signed autographs and had long chats with fans for a very lengthy time.

My friend showed me a picture of himself with Slade after the game and the stand in the background was totally empty! Everyone had left, but Slade stayed behind and took time out to interact with the fans.

Slade comes across as a very decent person, our players enjoy working with him and he's always very approachable with the fans.


:thumbright: :sladein: :ayatollah:

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:46 pm

Would you really go out and meet the fans when he was the figure head of the Tan regime.

I got to give it to Tan, he brought PR consultants in last year and it looks as if it's working. We like our chairman and CFO, the owner has shut up and we are back in our natural colours, the footballs got better....Time is a great heeler.

I think the majority like Slade, I doubt he will ever hit Malkys status, but like a jilted first love, we come back a bit wiser and stronger, so I doubt we'll ever see that sort of devoution for a while. Malky was a bit like Hitler, you knew it was wrong and going to end in tears, but you couldn't help going along with it...... Slade never gets there.

I guess Slade knows the WOL agenda and ignores them. I never get, with Cardiff City FC.co.uk, twitter and CC player why the local media even get a look in when they are not supporting you personally.

The leader bit is over stated, the manager is the leader, with players like Marshall & Whitts we have club men who can take concerns to the manager.

The pace thing is massive though.........Get to christams in 10th place, get 2 speedsters and play 433 with Rall, Diki & Whitts in the middle. Jones (cos thats his real position up front on his own) with Nooney (cos thats his real position) and a serious pace threat and just convert the draws into wins. We'll lose a few, and if that becomes a habbit go back to this super safe formation.

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:54 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Would you really go out and meet the fans when he was the figure head of the Tan regime.

I got to give it to Tan, he brought PR consultants in last year and it looks as if it's working. We like our chairman and CFO, the owner has shut up and we are back in our natural colours, the footballs got better....Time is a great heeler.

I think the majority like Slade, I doubt he will ever hit Malkys status, but like a jilted first love, we come back a bit wiser and stronger, so I doubt we'll ever see that sort of devoution for a while. Malky was a bit like Hitler, you knew it was wrong and going to end in tears, but you couldn't help going along with it...... Slade never gets there.

I guess Slade knows the WOL agenda and ignores them. I never get, with Cardiff City FC.co.uk, twitter and CC player why the local media even get a look in when they are not supporting you personally.

The leader bit is over stated, the manager is the leader, with players like Marshall & Whitts we have club men who can take concerns to the manager.

The pace thing is massive though.........Get to christams in 10th place, get 2 speedsters and play 433 with Rall, Diki & Whitts in the middle. Jones (cos thats his real position up front on his own) with Nooney (cos thats his real position) and a serious pace threat and just convert the draws into wins. We'll lose a few, and if that becomes a habbit go back to this super safe formation.


Comparing Malky to Hitler. :lol:

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:20 pm

Rydogsccfc wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Would you really go out and meet the fans when he was the figure head of the Tan regime.

I got to give it to Tan, he brought PR consultants in last year and it looks as if it's working. We like our chairman and CFO, the owner has shut up and we are back in our natural colours, the footballs got better....Time is a great heeler.

I think the majority like Slade, I doubt he will ever hit Malkys status, but like a jilted first love, we come back a bit wiser and stronger, so I doubt we'll ever see that sort of devoution for a while. Malky was a bit like Hitler, you knew it was wrong and going to end in tears, but you couldn't help going along with it...... Slade never gets there.

I guess Slade knows the WOL agenda and ignores them. I never get, with Cardiff City FC.co.uk, twitter and CC player why the local media even get a look in when they are not supporting you personally.

The leader bit is over stated, the manager is the leader, with players like Marshall & Whitts we have club men who can take concerns to the manager.

The pace thing is massive though.........Get to christams in 10th place, get 2 speedsters and play 433 with Rall, Diki & Whitts in the middle. Jones (cos thats his real position up front on his own) with Nooney (cos thats his real position) and a serious pace threat and just convert the draws into wins. We'll lose a few, and if that becomes a habbit go back to this super safe formation.


Comparing Malky to Hitler. :lol:



That's as weird a comparison as ever I've heard! :lol: :lol:

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:33 pm

llan bluebird wrote:Would you really go out and meet the fans when he was the figure head of the Tan regime.

I got to give it to Tan, he brought PR consultants in last year and it looks as if it's working. We like our chairman and CFO, the owner has shut up and we are back in our natural colours, the footballs got better....Time is a great heeler.

I think the majority like Slade, I doubt he will ever hit Malkys status, but like a jilted first love, we come back a bit wiser and stronger, so I doubt we'll ever see that sort of devoution for a while. Malky was a bit like Hitler, you knew it was wrong and going to end in tears, but you couldn't help going along with it...... Slade never gets there.

I guess Slade knows the WOL agenda and ignores them. I never get, with Cardiff City FC.co.uk, twitter and CC player why the local media even get a look in when they are not supporting you personally.

The leader bit is over stated, the manager is the leader, with players like Marshall & Whitts we have club men who can take concerns to the manager.

The pace thing is massive though.........Get to christams in 10th place, get 2 speedsters and play 433 with Rall, Diki & Whitts in the middle. Jones (cos thats his real position up front on his own) with Nooney (cos thats his real position) and a serious pace threat and just convert the draws into wins. We'll lose a few, and if that becomes a habbit go back to this super safe formation.


Hitler comparison is a bit bizarre. Couldn't help go along with it. :laughing6:

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:59 pm

Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Would you really go out and meet the fans when he was the figure head of the Tan regime.

I got to give it to Tan, he brought PR consultants in last year and it looks as if it's working. We like our chairman and CFO, the owner has shut up and we are back in our natural colours, the footballs got better....Time is a great heeler.

I think the majority like Slade, I doubt he will ever hit Malkys status, but like a jilted first love, we come back a bit wiser and stronger, so I doubt we'll ever see that sort of devoution for a while. Malky was a bit like Hitler, you knew it was wrong and going to end in tears, but you couldn't help going along with it...... Slade never gets there.

I guess Slade knows the WOL agenda and ignores them. I never get, with Cardiff City FC.co.uk, twitter and CC player why the local media even get a look in when they are not supporting you personally.

The leader bit is over stated, the manager is the leader, with players like Marshall & Whitts we have club men who can take concerns to the manager.

The pace thing is massive though.........Get to christams in 10th place, get 2 speedsters and play 433 with Rall, Diki & Whitts in the middle. Jones (cos thats his real position up front on his own) with Nooney (cos thats his real position) and a serious pace threat and just convert the draws into wins. We'll lose a few, and if that becomes a habbit go back to this super safe formation.


Hitler comparison is a bit bizarre. Couldn't help go along with it. :laughing6:



Many many years ago i did A level history and read books on books about the Nazi's and Hitler. Why did a well educated cultured populous buy into the nazi party when they knew deep down it was wrong.....

I used to come home from football and my mrs would say, "good game" and i'd say no it was shit, but we won !!! :lol: :lol:

I agree its a weird comparison.

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:11 pm

llan bluebird wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Would you really go out and meet the fans when he was the figure head of the Tan regime.

I got to give it to Tan, he brought PR consultants in last year and it looks as if it's working. We like our chairman and CFO, the owner has shut up and we are back in our natural colours, the footballs got better....Time is a great heeler.

I think the majority like Slade, I doubt he will ever hit Malkys status, but like a jilted first love, we come back a bit wiser and stronger, so I doubt we'll ever see that sort of devoution for a while. Malky was a bit like Hitler, you knew it was wrong and going to end in tears, but you couldn't help going along with it...... Slade never gets there.

I guess Slade knows the WOL agenda and ignores them. I never get, with Cardiff City FC.co.uk, twitter and CC player why the local media even get a look in when they are not supporting you personally.

The leader bit is over stated, the manager is the leader, with players like Marshall & Whitts we have club men who can take concerns to the manager.

The pace thing is massive though.........Get to christams in 10th place, get 2 speedsters and play 433 with Rall, Diki & Whitts in the middle. Jones (cos thats his real position up front on his own) with Nooney (cos thats his real position) and a serious pace threat and just convert the draws into wins. We'll lose a few, and if that becomes a habbit go back to this super safe formation.


Hitler comparison is a bit bizarre. Couldn't help go along with it. :laughing6:



Many many years ago i did A level history and read books on books about the Nazi's and Hitler. Why did a well educated cultured populous buy into the nazi party when they knew deep down it was wrong.....

I used to come home from football and my mrs would say, "good game" and i'd say no it was shit, but we won !!! :lol: :lol:

I agree its a weird comparison.


funny though :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:33 pm

llan bluebird wrote:
Bridgend_bluebird wrote:
llan bluebird wrote:Would you really go out and meet the fans when he was the figure head of the Tan regime.

I got to give it to Tan, he brought PR consultants in last year and it looks as if it's working. We like our chairman and CFO, the owner has shut up and we are back in our natural colours, the footballs got better....Time is a great heeler.

I think the majority like Slade, I doubt he will ever hit Malkys status, but like a jilted first love, we come back a bit wiser and stronger, so I doubt we'll ever see that sort of devoution for a while. Malky was a bit like Hitler, you knew it was wrong and going to end in tears, but you couldn't help going along with it...... Slade never gets there.

I guess Slade knows the WOL agenda and ignores them. I never get, with Cardiff City FC.co.uk, twitter and CC player why the local media even get a look in when they are not supporting you personally.

The leader bit is over stated, the manager is the leader, with players like Marshall & Whitts we have club men who can take concerns to the manager.

The pace thing is massive though.........Get to christams in 10th place, get 2 speedsters and play 433 with Rall, Diki & Whitts in the middle. Jones (cos thats his real position up front on his own) with Nooney (cos thats his real position) and a serious pace threat and just convert the draws into wins. We'll lose a few, and if that becomes a habbit go back to this super safe formation.


Hitler comparison is a bit bizarre. Couldn't help go along with it. :laughing6:



Many many years ago i did A level history and read books on books about the Nazi's and Hitler. Why did a well educated cultured populous buy into the nazi party when they knew deep down it was wrong.....

I used to come home from football and my mrs would say, "good game" and i'd say no it was shit, but we won !!! :lol: :lol:

I agree its a weird comparison.


You did a level I didn't. But from what I can see he used nationalism as a way of getting into power. The wars, well, would anyone speak out against him with the entire armed forces on his side?

But still made me chuckle. :laughing6:

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:58 pm

The positives are outweighing the negatives at the moment and that's all that matters. :sladein:

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:59 pm

JonCCFC wrote:The positives are outweighing the negatives at the moment and that's all that matters. :sladein:


:ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:24 pm

If Malky was Hitler then Slade is Mussolini. Scoular was Churchill and Lennie Lawrence was Malcolm muggeridge!

:sladeout:

Re: THE NEGATIVES OF RUSSELL SLADE BEING CARDIFF CITY MANAGE

Mon Oct 05, 2015 9:27 pm

Brianclark5 wrote:If Malky was Hitler then Slade is Mussolini. Scoular was Churchill and Lennie Lawrence was Malcolm muggeridge!

:sladeout:


Allah uh akbar? Nah cmon Slade and city. :laughing6: :ayatollah: :bluescarf: