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" Why is Rugby our National sport ?? "

Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:47 am

Why is Rugby our National sport ??

26/09/2015

By Zak Johnson

JUST when was rugby decreed the national sport of Wales, and who the hell decided anyway?

I’m sorry, I must have missed the meeting because personally I can’t think of a less appropriate sport for our great nation to adopt apart from maybe Alpine skiing or rhythmic gymnastics.

A game invented by a bunch of toffs cheating at football at one of England’s most elitist public schools seems such an odd choice for a Welsh nation built on industry and working class pride. I mean, we might as well have named polo or flogging one’s fag at Eton as our favourite pastime.

In fact, our seeming obsession with “egg chasing” is the ultimate form of subservience we can give to our overlords across Offa’s Dyke. “Oh yes master, we will play your weird game, I tell you what, we’ll be quite good at it for a while 40 years ago, but then you can come and thrash us at it every year.”

The irony being, of course, that outside of a few blazer-wearing, urine-drinking enclaves, the English themselves don’t really care about rugby at all. It’s an insignificance followed by a few retired wing-commanders from Surrey who believe the carpet bombing of Murrayfield might put the “Jocks” in their place ahead of the Calcutta Cup.

On any English newspaper the exploits of Martin Johnson and his men are relegated to obscurity compared to the news Fernando Torres has broken a toenail. Football is, of course, the national sport of England, well actually the whole world, including Wales if truth be known, but for some reason, in these parts, some people don’t like to hear that.

The Rugby World Cup only represents the world as it was known by Viking explorers in the 5th Century AD. You know one of those maps with Wessex on it and “here be monsters” about the edge.

Of course, the grip the oval ball has on the Welsh nation has been grossly exaggerated anyway. A conspiracy orchestrated by the media and high-ranking members of the Taffia who, when they are not bemoaning the decline of S4C or slaughtering goats in a field in Bangor with a pillow-case on their head, are worried that, if we all woke up to the fact that rugby is just another lame Welsh cliche, we might actually move the nation forward into, oh, I don’t know, the 19th Century.
You can stick the likes of male voice choirs and Max Boyce in the same dustbin of history too, and coal mines while you’re at it, although Margaret Thatcher has already done that for us.

Let’s face it, we Welsh’s interest in rugby is tenuous at best.

Sure, during the Six Nations the Valleys empty, the capital is a seething sea of sparkly cowboy hats and enough booze is sunk to put Charlie Sheen back into rehab.
But, as those charmers Andy Gray and Richard Keys might point out, I bet these women don’t even know the offside rule, although neither do most of the blokes who come to watch the games either. Indeed, when Wales are playing rugby in Cardiff one gets the feeling every village in Powys is missing its idiot.
But where are all these “dedicated” rugby fans when the Six Nations circus packs up its tent? Who knows, but I’ll tell you where they are not, watching Welsh club sides play rugby, that’s for sure. The likes of the Blues and Ospreys get crowds so pitiful, a Charlotte Church “comeback” gig looks packed in comparison.
But if one is a Welshman, which I am, who speaks out against the eternal boredom and insignificance of rugby it is regarded as some form of national heresy. It’s equivalent to pointing out Tom Jones has been an embarrassment since 1970 or Catherine Zeta-Jones is not a great actress.
But, who cares, come on proud Welsh women and men, kick the rugby into touch. Let’s leave this nostalgic dalliance with a minority sport firmly where it belongs – in the past.

Cmon Wales, one more point and we're off to France :thumbright: :ayatollah:

Re: " Why is Rugby our National sport ?? "

Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:59 am

Chwarae teg! Brilliant! Lol. :thumbup:

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:59 am

More drivel written by someone who has an spoilt brat attitude.Personally I don't care one way or the other and anyone over the age of thirteen should be the same.Anyway judging by the way he quotes the likes of Martin Jonstone who has been retired for about 8yrs this piece is quite old.

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:03 am

10 out of 10. :thumbup: for that. ;) .f*ck the egg. :bluescarf:

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:15 am

Built on the success of the seventies, that's the truth :bluebird:

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:24 am

If you like rugby or football that's fine. If you like both, that's fine too. What's the point in slagging each other off? I'll be right behind Wales in this world cup just like I'm right behind Wales in this Euro qualifying run.

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:24 am

Excellent article and very true!

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:30 am

Thing is some of these "facts" are not true. I live in Hampshire and rugby is huge down here and not just with "toffs". There is a big misconception in Wales that only rich English people like rugby. Rugby is really popular with all sorts of people just like football is. Sorry to burst your bubble...

Re: " Why is Rugby our National sport ?? "

Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:59 am

It has always been a myth more people play football and have always done so.As for Max Boyce I would put him in a cage naked with a sex starved Baboon for a bit of up and under here we go

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Re: " Why is Rugby our National sport ?? "

Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:01 am

Interesting read, that! :thumbup: ;)

Origins:

Rugby-like games have a long history in Wales, with games such as cnapan being played for centuries. Rugby seems to have reached Wales in 1850, when the Reverend Professor Rowland Williams brought the game with him from Cambridge to St. David's College, Lampeter, which fielded the first Welsh rugby team that same year.

Arthur "Monkey" Gould was the first Welsh superstar of rugby union.

Rugby initially expanded in Wales through ex-pupils of the Welsh colleges settling, or students from English colleges and universities returning to the larger industrial hubs of South Wales. This is reflected in the first clubs to embrace the sport in the early to mid-1870s, with Neath RFC widely recognised as being the first Welsh club. The strength of Welsh rugby developed over the following years, which could be attributed to the 'big four' South Wales clubs of Newport (who lost only seven games under the captaincy of Llewellyn Lloyd between the 1900/01 and 1902/03 seasons), Cardiff, Llanelli (who lost just twice in 1894 and 1895) and Swansea. With the coming of industrialisation and the railways, rugby too was spread as workers from the main cities brought the game to the new steel and coal towns of south Wales. Merthyr formed in 1876, Brecon in 1874, Penygraig in 1877; as the towns adopted the new sport they reflected the growth and expansion of a new industrial Wales.

In the 19th century as well as the established clubs there were many 'scratch' teams populating most towns, informal pub or social teams that would form and disband quickly. Llanelli, as an example, in the 1880s was home not only to Llanelli RFC, but also to Gower Road, Seasiders, Morfa Rangers, Prospect Place Rovers, Wern Foundry, Cooper Mills Rangers, New Dock Strollers, Vauxhall Juniors, Moonlight Rovers and Gilbert Street Rovers. These teams would come and go, but some would merge into more settled clubs which exist today, Cardiff RFC was itself formed from three teams, Glamorgan, Tredegarville and Wanderers Football Clubs.

The South Wales Football Club was established in 1875[8] to try to incorporate a standard set of rules and expand the sport and this was succeeded by the Welsh Football Union which was formed in 1881. With the forming of the WFU (which would become the Welsh Rugby Union in 1934), Wales began competing in recognised international matches, with the first game, against England, also in 1881. The first Welsh team although fairly diverse in the geography of the clubs represented, did not appear to truly represent the strength available to Wales. The team was mainly made up of ex-Cambridge and Oxford university graduates and the selection was heavily criticised in the local press after the crushing defeat by England.

By the end of the 19th century, a group of exciting Welsh players began to emerge, including Arthur Gould, Billy Bancroft and Gwyn Nicholls; players that would be regarded as the first super-stars of Welsh rugby and would usher in not only the first golden era of Welsh rugby, but would also see the introduction of specialised positional players.
Rugby union has a particular hold on the national psyche of Wales, especially the Six Nations tournament.

The first proof of Wales as a nation embracing the sport of rugby union is reflected in the rapid growth of rugby clubs in the late 19th century. Within a period of 25 years, from 1875 to 1900, most towns and villages in South Wales were represented by at least one team, though it would take until the 1930s for the North of Wales to set up their own leagues.

Popularity:

Although difficult to prove popularity, two events that took place early in the history of Welsh rugby illustrate its growing influence on the people of Wales.

The first was the Gould Affair, when a testimonial fund was set up for Welsh international Arthur Gould, instigated by a local newspaper. From an initial fund of one shilling the public response saw the amount reach into hundreds of pounds, mainly from working-class families with little spare money.

The second incident was during the Tonypandy Riot of 1910, when the striking coalminers attacked the shops and premises in the town centre. 80 police officers and 500 civilians were injured and one person died. Over 60 establishments were attacked and looted, with only two buildings avoiding damage. One was a jewelers which had roller shutters, the other was the chemist shop owned by Willie Llewellyn, which despite the chaos of the events was spared due to his services to Wales on the playing field.

For the match against Scotland in 2005, 40,000 Welsh people went to Edinburgh to watch the game. Over 10,000 gathered on "Henson Hill" to watch a big screen of Wales v. Ireland that gave Wales its first Grand Slam since 1978. The result was greeted well amongst fans and was even used to explain a sudden economic surge.

The choral tradition of Wales manifests itself at rugby games in singing. Popular songs among the fans are 'Delilah' by Tom Jones, 'Cwm Rhondda' and 'Calon Lan' and in part replace the normal chanting of other Rugby supporters.

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:13 am

Wales has changed from the middle class, London looking, empire, queen, god and country crowd that controlled the media during the early decades of the last century. Rugby was special to them, not dirty like professional sports like football or league.
We did not buy into the amateur ethos though, it was community vs community, watching local lads giving it all for the village, town or club.
When i used to watch Cardiff at the arms park i had friends in almost disgust insist i should be watching Rumney, St Peters ect....
It was far cheaper than watching the city, which was always my first love, but when the 11 devoute fans went to watch us at Gillingham I would turn up at the Arms park and watch a great game of running rugby, with a few Welsh greats playing.

Rugby killed Rugby's myth as the national game. Its not as big as they thought when we entered the professional era. Watching the Blues with all their international stars at the CCS was almost embarrassing at the times, if we moan about our atmosphere, a Friday night game then would have adjusted your expectations.

The Wales games at the Millennium have turned into social occasions, a Royal Ascot for Taffies. Some of our country's greatest races take place during that social gathering and probably 90% of the attendees are clueless to that fact, which is why i make that comparison.

Rugby may have been the nations game, but that was certainly a long time ago.

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:14 am

Never liked rugby tbh but each to there own :bluescarf:

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:30 am

Played rugby as an adult, more football as a kid. Prefer watching football to rugby, but will be routing for Wales tonight.
A win for the Bluebirds this afternoon & then hope for the perfect double tonight.
I'm a patriotic Welshman and can't imagine how any other like minded person can say they don't give a damn about tonight's game.

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:50 am

Valley Lad wrote:Played rugby as an adult, more football as a kid. Prefer watching football to rugby, but will be routing for Wales tonight.
A win for the Bluebirds this afternoon & then hope for the perfect double tonight.
I'm a patriotic Welshman and can't imagine how any other like minded person can say they don't give a damn about tonight's game.



Stella in the fridge about to place the tenner double......Great day


hopefully

Re: " Why is Rugby our National sport ?? "

Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:52 am

Valley Lad wrote:Played rugby as an adult, more football as a kid. Prefer watching football to rugby, but will be routing for Wales tonight.
A win for the Bluebirds this afternoon & then hope for the perfect double tonight.
I'm a patriotic Welshman and can't imagine how any other like minded person can say they don't give a damn about tonight's game.


For me it's Football through and through but most of my friends are Rugby boys so growing up I always did both socially and as u got older the rugby became a rare event. I did however make a weekend of it when we played in the Carling cup final. Each to their own, I went through a phase of disliking rugby but as you mature you appreciate things differently. Haven't watched a single match of the world cup but tonight I will tuned in like many Welshmen. Firstly, let's get a win at the main event :thumbup:

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:56 am

BeardyBlue wrote:If you like rugby or football that's fine. If you like both, that's fine too. What's the point in slagging each other off? I'll be right behind Wales in this world cup just like I'm right behind Wales in this Euro qualifying run.

I agree

The casual supporter in Wales see International rugby as a day out with friends a couple of times a year and that is it ..... and also Wales international rugby performances have been generally good overall down the years and have won things

Wales international soccer performances have been generally poor overall down the years and underachieved compared with similar size nations .......

Wales Internationally have been better at Rugby than Soccer ..... despite more people playing and watching soccer at all levels

Everybody loves winners whatever sport

its all relative

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:12 pm

BeardyBlue wrote:If you like rugby or football that's fine. If you like both, that's fine too. What's the point in slagging each other off? I'll be right behind Wales in this world cup just like I'm right behind Wales in this Euro qualifying run.


:thumbright: :thumbup:

Re: " Why is Rugby our National sport ?? "

Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:19 pm

Has anyone actually been able to answer the question in the article? WHY is rugby deemed our national sport?

Is it purely a media invention or is it based on any facts. I assume it can only be because we were early adopters and therefore quite good at it at national level. It can't be down to the numbers playing or watching the sport.

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 12:31 pm

I enjoy soccer and rugby, I've played both and enjoyed both, am suffering the pains of old breaks and knocks as I get older, but always support Wales in whatever sport our country plays. :bluebird: :old:

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 2:47 pm

All this "toffs" and public schools crap, in last years Six Nations game England v Wales 13 out of the 15 starting England players went to state schools.

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 3:56 pm

Because most people in wales love it and we are very good at it.

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 6:12 pm

Football is the majority sport in Cardiff, Swansea, maybe Newport and most (actually some) large towns in Wales. But the National sport is rugby, whether we as football fans like it or not. This is a fact, and nothing other than Wales football qualifying for every major tournament for the next 50 years, whilst the egg finish bottom of the six nations every year will change that. And this coming from someone who has no interest in the sport whatsoever, and will not even watch the game tonight.

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:02 pm

It's our national sport as apart from a couple of years the attendances for national games have been much bigger than the football.

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:57 pm

100% agree. Fuk the irrelevant egg shite!!

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 8:15 pm

I've played both and enjoy both but much prefer football. I read somewhere that there are significantly more players registered with the FAW as opposed to the WRU. We are currently good at both so who cares.

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 9:52 pm

GrangeEndStar wrote:I've played both and enjoy both but much prefer football. I read somewhere that there are significantly more players registered with the FAW as opposed to the WRU. We are currently good at both so who cares.



Agree, Christ I'm welsh I support everything Wales do..

Re: " Why is Rugby our National sport ?? "

Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:17 pm

I suppose THAT is why.

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:17 pm

Miller time wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:I've played both and enjoy both but much prefer football. I read somewhere that there are significantly more players registered with the FAW as opposed to the WRU. We are currently good at both so who cares.



Agree, Christ I'm welsh I support everything Wales do..


Yep. It's a great time to be a shagger of sheep. :thumbup:

Re: " Why is Rugby our National sport ?? "

Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:48 pm

Football.
Rugby.

Better than England :D

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Sat Sep 26, 2015 10:58 pm

griff105 wrote:Football.
Rugby.

Better than England :D


Griff, that sounds like the basis of a new chant if ever I heard one.